Where are my Bro's?
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Where are my Bro's?
Maybe you should use email for personal matters?
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Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater
Maybe I should floss more too.
I think Splat detailed ship dates in the other thread. And he responds to PM frequently.
I'm always open to address these matters here on the forum, truth, because there are a lot of other maggots asking the same question. As you know, the first run of softs had topsheets out of line. We salvaged ten pair out of that run that have shipped, with a few more pair landing in CO today.
We then pressed stiffs and the sidewalls blew out because the cuts on the core side of the UHMW were wobbly. There were reasons given, none of which I bought into. So of the batch of stiffs, only one pair was salvaged.
The sidewall blowout is far more visible, as the brown sidewall has patches of epoxy in it.
There have been a series of fuckups that have occurred. None of this has made me a nice person to be around in the shop, but we're working through them. As a first time endeavor, lessons are being learned and a standard of quality must be met before they can go out. The Bros start getting pressed again tomorrow and I believe this time it will be right and most all of you can expect skis by Christmas.
Thanks for giving me an opportunity to update all the faithful. As always, we are bustin nuts to get you all your skis. Hits like like these past two screwups really hurt a small company with it's ass on the line to make something like this happen.
I for one am patient. Even if there were snow here, I'd rather let PMGear sort out the problems and deliver a quality product than rush them into a premature equipulation.
Set goals, pace yourself and focus on the quality. In the meatime, I'll harass you on the phone about doll parts, vacuum cleaners and whether the Cult Of Poisonality has ruined Amerika.
What you are looking at here is a great example of how a business that provides goods and services should respond to consumer inquiries. :fmicon:Quote:
Originally Posted by splat
(BTW -- there is no sarcasm intended I am damn serious.)
todays new word is.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster Highmen
Welcome to the wonderful world of manufacturing. I guess it's no longer my own private hell. :FIREdevilQuote:
Originally Posted by splat
edit: Things will get smoother, hang in there
I have full confidence in PM Gearand Splat that the pair of skis I bought will bring me years of joy. I can wait as long as it takes.
Just be glad you don't have to meet nonsensical specification and regulatory standards, ugh!! Good luck dialing it in man. Positive vibes for no more unpleasant "surprises" in the Broduction process.
It's support like this that makes making Bros a labor of love.
Broduction -I like that.
edit: My next monthly column at powdermag, up next week, will memorialize the Brocess from brainfart to current status, with a never-mentioned scare of failure exposed that has been heretofore unmentioned.
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Originally Posted by Keoni
Im in there with ya.
PMgear....I just wanted an update, was in no way looking to stir shit or gripe. I have not recieved an email or what not in quite some time and was just curious. I've been with ya from the very start and I'm not bailing now fellas.
Dear PM Gear;
My question has to do with the double ski bag from last year. It is bomber and way roomy, but there are like twenty clips inside that I have no idea what they are supposed to clip to. Was there an owner's manual that I threw out?
Sincerely,
A. Bagman
Those held in the Chinese immigrants that slipped out of the FedEx truck down the block from your house, ice.
Those are for securing your skis and poles in transit. We are doing our part to support the SkiLand Security Act.
Just wanted to say thanks for all the continued support of PM Gear and bro models, we certainly appreciate it. It's just killing us all inside that we're behind schedule, although we should have anticipated some Broduction issues, there's definitely a learning curve on that, but we view it as a positive too in some ways.
we really want you guys to be out there killing it on the BROs asap, but of course only with the best possible product, for the best damn group of maggots ever:)
Splat's been working his arse off making this happen for everyone, and there's not enough good things that can be said about his personal dedication to this project.
Keep up the hard work, splat, etc. All will be right with the world when Maggots are out ripping on the Bros across mountains everywhere.
Now, about those 183's that I'm just sure you guys are going to get around to producing...
Even though, I don't have the cash to buy a pair this year, i have been with you guys the whole way watching the process on the board. I'm stoked that you guys are doing this and will hopefully be able to scrounge the cash together to buy a pair next year. You guys rule...
PS: We need to make some cool Bromodel stickers. Maybe someone can design some cool ones...
We are soooo totally all about that. Just been too busy to get to it. Contributions on graphics graciously accepted.Quote:
Originally Posted by powwrangler
We want to make the plane emblem on the tips of the Bro's into some sort of sticker....but none of us really had time to tackle it yet. Skis first...stickers later ;)....thanks for the support thus far everyone. It means a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by powwrangler
EDIT: splat is too fast.
ahem...slight hi-jack
A possible shorter version of the Bro next year?
Another thanks to all the bro faithful and another apology for the unforeseen delays.
And huge props to splat for dealing with the stress and other peoples' screw-ups of the last few months. I woulda cracked by now. But splat keeps on keeping on with humor and a relentlessly positive outlook. He is driven by one thing right now--to make sure maggots get their skis asap and that those skis have a level of finish and quality worthy of the PM Gear name.
If we sell another 75 pair, we'll likely do that and we have a major surprise up our sleeves that could become reality. Help us sell skis, we'll do what we can to make them more available to a wider range of weights, heights, and length preference. We're being totally honest with people calling us and telling them we're backordered until Xmas. That has cost us a few orders, but we have to be straight with everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stu Gotz
I have a couple of diagrams that may help - email me at shawn@pmgearusa.com.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
First of all, I'm sure everyone appreciates all the work you guys have put into this project (broject?). I certainly do! (Hopefully there is a pair waiting for me whe I get home today... :))Quote:
Originally Posted by splat
I wonder what the surprise can be... I just wrote a guess but I removed it again - it would suck if I guessed it right... :p
PM Gear Peeps:
Best of luck with the construction and sorry to hear about all of the setbacks. From one of the probable silent majority sitting on the sidelines hoping everything goes well and the skis kick ass. I bet once the skis get out and circulated better, if they live up to the hype you can get those other 75 sold. Hope so, because I want to be skiing on a 2nd generation ski. Good luck and keep up the hard work splat.
Splatula?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by splat
Yep, that was my guess too... :rolleyes2Quote:
Originally Posted by optics
Nah, that's not it..... we're working on this now, didn't you hear??? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by optics
I'd also like to chime in and thank all of our Bro Model customers for their patience. We only get one chance to do this right and we intend to make sure that every single pair of skis delivered are perfect.
Soon, most of our 'Dear PM Gear' letters will read like this one I got tonite from verbier 61, I hope:
I'm speechless. BROs are gorgeous. They are so seductive that the absence of snow at Verb suddenly becomes an unsustenible pain. Thanks. I'll do whatever I can to be of help to these kids. I'll be their european uncle. And, yes, also the bag is here, and looks really sweet. Thanks again!
That is the kind of response that makes doing it all soooo rewarding and cool.
hehehehe I sent this same letter to skiforum (an italian ski forum) and they welcomed the newborn in the warmest possible way. Translation on file if needed :rolleyes2
http://www.skiforum.it/skiforum/viewtopic.php?t=696
Now..... I'm in san diego up to Wednesday....... where the hell is a decent mountain around here? :cussing:
PS part 1: I was looking for the "it's a boy" picture of splat with BROs in hands, but haven't find..... where's that?
PS part 2: Splat, the sign on the ski is the sweet spot (mid boot), correct?
verbier- yes, the line in the center is for the center of your boot.
You mean this pic of the very first Brototype?
exactly!!! this is the pic but I saw a version on skipass were there was an added detail to underline that "it's a boy" ;)
It is my feeling that Splat is doing the very best he can. The project that he has taken on is enormous, and everyone who has bought the Bros needs to know what exactly they are supporting.
I'm coming from this standpoint. I demo'd some Nordica skis today at Keystone. The snow coverage is minimal at best, and rocks were everywhere. I scuffed the skis and put some superficial edge scrapes on them....big fucking deal. Well, the Nordica rep/douchebag freaked out when I brought them back. He then laid the guilt trip on me about how the poor soul had to hand tune the skis, and that he wasn't happy that I skied them to their potential.
Fuck that. A multi-million dollar company is upset that I scuffed their skis....boo-fucking-hoo!!!
When you buy Bros, you're supporting a company that actually cares about you as a skier, and a company that will take care of you. You're also sending a message to the huge corporations that you're tired of their catoring to the masses and how they've forgot about real skiers. FUCK CORPORATE SKIING, you have the option. Be patient.
Thanks for that Blurred.
Ya hear that Vets?! If anyone takes a nick out of one of the Broto's yer cartin around don't chew their head off like we tol ya too ;)
If anyone gets a chance to demo the Bro's in the future....ski 'em like they're meant to be skied. Ski 'em like ya stole 'em :)
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Originally Posted by BlurredElevens
i hate whinny reps that rarely ski their product on anything but the groomers. they act like that set of boards is their last. i'd agree that if you blow an edge that you fucked up, but a couple scratches and burrs aren't anything to get anyones panties in a bunch. if he's that worried about them getting scratched up then he should save them for later in the year or take them to another mountain.
Too funny, Vets just called me and said there's a ding on one edge and I'm like "There oughta be by now. I've asked that everyone do their best to kill them."Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces
You won't hear me whining about scratches on the Bros. As I recall, we skied over many rocks, dirt patches, etc. at Mt. Hood and you could barely see a scratch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces
Splat will probably get a look at the well skied demo fleet tomorrow. I'm confident that he'll be happy with how they are holding up. They have been skied by many other skiers who push a ski much harder than I am currently capable of doing.
P.S. I have been deburring and waxing the Bros. The amount of deburring needed has been pretty easy because the edges are solid. Initially I was waxing them after each day of use as the bases started out being pretty thirsty for wax (important for new Bro owners.) After a few days of waxing they no longer need to be done everyday.
Don't you guys know Geoff's second rule of ski carnage?
The extent of damage sustained to a new piece of snowsports equipment recieveing a near fatal blow is in direct inverse proportion to the desire of the owner or user of the ski to not damage said ski.
A brand new ski, purchased at full retail price by a broke-ass ski bum will explode on a groomer run in feburary and not qualify for a warranty replacement.
Getting a ski-tow behind a car, across a wal-mart parking lot in mid-august will have no neglible affect on any rock skis. (Rock skis quickly become indestructible - The actually use parts them to build the heat sheild tiles on the space shuttle.)