Saw the ad in the new issue of Backcountry magazine. Anyone got more info?
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Saw the ad in the new issue of Backcountry magazine. Anyone got more info?
Hummm.... I guess, I'll have to look at that magazine. Sorry, I don't read their rag...
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Originally Posted by Hacksaw
If I had a scanner I would scan it for you. Let's see, interesting points.
Gonna be at the 2011 OR show.
Airbag/airbag features looks like a BCA airbag
Left or right hand trigger
All the bells and whistles as a ski bag.
any idea as to the cost? Any bozeman mags want to head over there and find out some details for us?
a scanner basically captures an image of whatever you place on it and converts it to a digital form. Too pad there is no other device that could capture images in such a form :fmicon:Quote:
Originally Posted by sfotex
Lots of black text on a grey background doesn't work too well with my shitty camera.Quote:
Originally Posted by farmer
Fair enough. I'll try to remember to pick up a copy and scan it next time I'm out.
Was briefly referenced here:
http://www.wildsnow.com/3804/float-30-airbag-revie/
Otherwise, impressive how quiet they've kept this.
Also, ARVA packs are compatible with the ABS Vario system:
http://www.arva-equipment.com/en/Pro...oduct_170.html
http://www.arva-equipment.com/en/Pro...oduct_171.html
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_7BAmdolYkPw/TP...0Blackjack.JPG
And you know its gonna carry the best of all of them, that's just how dana rolls.
Anyone want to play guess the price? I'm going with a buck a cubic inch. $2600
That thing looks sick though, appears much more functional as a pack than the BCAs I've seen
I am in love.
It will also be twice as expensive and 25% heavier.Quote:
Originally Posted by JRainey
But I agree, the man can build a pack.
I know what I want for Christmas next year...
Drool.
He never really embraced light weight materials, but his stuff lasts. For a winter pack, no biggy. For a backpacking pack, no way.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeStrummer
Price: I thought dentists were rich.
As a member of the sales staff working on the Black Jack AE project at Mystery Ranch I thought I would fill you in on a couple of details. First, the price of the system including the airbag will less than $900 when available for retail sale. The airbag is designed, built and tested by Avi Vest and can be installed in the Mystery Ranch Blackjack pack. The weight is approximately 8lbs with all components, and the airbag system takes up about 3.5 lbs of that. Watch Wild Snow for comprehensive compressions of all the airbag safety systems this season.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2637305/Phot...avy%20pack.jpg
Lou posted some info on Wildsnow today.
Interesting idea about the remote trigger (not actually on this pack, for the record... just an idea he had). Your partner could have said control while you descend... takes on thing out of the equation if shit hits the fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinecure
Untill you cell phone accidentally triggers it while not needed. :fmicon:
From Mystery Ranch (p.s., this pack looks sweet!):
Looks awesome, Price though, puts it squarely in with all the other high end overpriced almost 1k airbags. Better pack design though, by far, but BY FAR, NOT WORTH 900USD.
You guys on crack? seriously, crack cocaine?
Good attempt though.
I wonder what cost to make is on this?
Great design though....
Mystery stuff is expensive no matter what it is. They pay all their employees a living wage and give them health insurance (which is unheard of in Montana). That cost has to get passed on to someone. I think that they also tack on a little extra so that they can buy more crack. The shop is always super clean though!Quote:
Originally Posted by DasBlunt
The stuff does last forever. It looks like a nice design.
hmmm, well maybe that changes my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by inthemtns
But shit, 900 for a hood air bag seems steep.
Crack joke was just for special effects.
I want to believe....this is from their blog.
"Your Mystery Ranch backpack arrives and it is a dream pack, sturdy and well built. Behind each pack is a crew of super skilled production employees, who meticulously hand-make and inspect each product that Mystery Ranch produces. The design was originally created, then prototypes were tested. The fabric is hand-cut, the pack is hand-sewn, the foam is hand-stuffed and many eyes have looked over every nook and cranny of the pack. Mystery Ranch employees sew through multiple layers of tough fabric and a myriad of fastenings and straps. The crew behind the packs are outstanding. Rigorous high standards and a crew known for their technical precision are what sets Mystery Ranch Backpacks beyond ordinary outdoor packs. Each pack is finely hand-crafted right here in the USA."
i'm getting one, and called them last week.
a tall fat fuck like myself has no other options. maybe talk McHale into doing one?
they said maybe have something going by Febuary, and they're supposed to call me when they're ready.
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Originally Posted by capulin overdrive
Hey, I am tall and fat too...what is your data?
I am 6.3 215lbs
I am liking this thing more and more.
Anybody have any idea how big the avy tools pocket is going to be? I usually carry a BCA Chugach Pro Shovel and finding a pack that will fit it in the avy tools pocket is a pain to say the least.
How about incorporating an Avalung into the Blackjack, like a BD Covert? Could come in handy for head-firsts into tree wells and to help breathing when there's a lot of snow suspended in the air around you.
Is that just a normal plastic waist buckle? Like on a normal pack? That's not really well thought trough if it is. You will risk your pack getting ripped off in an avalanche. It'll be easy for your friends to find your pack though :P
^^That is what I thought. Plastic seems a bit suspect considering that the other big players all have aluminium Loop buckles.
Played with the Blackjack tonight. It's a pretty slick pack. The whole airbag fits in the lid of the pack and can be swapped out with a regular lid if you don't want to carry the weight of the airbag (spring days, etc.)Quote:
Originally Posted by _Aaron_
The tool pocket will fit a chugach pro and is pretty good sized.
Or you could just by a stand alone ava lung, cut off the straps and zip tie it to one of the pack straps. Viola magic pack.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1000-oaks
True, but the Convert integrated pack design is nice in that it puts the intake that much further away from the exhuast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atrain505
sorry to continue the thread jack but if BD thought that the exhaust has to be that far away they would have engineered the stand alone unit to the same specs. also, ignoring the avalung feature BD packs tend to get less than stellar reviews as far as comfort and performance. makes more sense to me to use the standalone unit and wear it with your resort pack, day pack, or overnight pack as needed.
Back to the Blackjack...can anyone confirm that the buckle is plastic while the other packs have burlier metal ones? And is buying through the MR website the only way to purchase these packs or are they also found in retail stores/online stores (I haven't seen these packs in stores, MEC, REI, backcountry.com etc). Thanks! This pack looks like a winner BTW.
As well as the plastic belt buckle my first thought was..if the airbag is attached to detachable lid....
Then how is lid attached to pack? I'd have thought you want that thing securely attached directly to the harness.
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Originally Posted by 1000-oaks
Answered for me. I know tons of people who have zip tied avalungs to all kinds of packs. Performs identically to BD packs and/or the standalone unit.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennymac
Personally I just use the stand alone unit because on a day of sled skiing I am constantly switching between camera pack and skiing pack, but if I consistently used one pack in the backcountry I would be all over the zip tie method, because it makes one less thing to carry, easier to zip and unzip jacket, etc.
Mystery makes an avalung yoke for their packs. Just give 'em the guts of an avalung pack or one of the bandoliers and you can have the best of both worlds.
I will be looking forward to fondling this pack at SIA this week.
Fondled and pulled the handle on this pack today.Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
Plastic buckles are from an USA factory, they can control the quality/strength and the plastic are just as burly as the metal ones they considered. Weight is a concern, but strength is more important. They just found the plastic to be as strong.
Option to order the pack with choice of which side the pull is on or dual pull sleeves, meaning you can have it on either side.
Did not notice the lid attachment. I imagine it is a combination of straps and zipper.....when i blew it, it was bombproof....loud as fuck.
best pack I have seen. retail 850ish.
Small pack version coming soon.
WANT.
Lid attachment sysytem is super bomber and includes a ton of strong webbing and metal.
They said they drop tested the plastic buckle. And they were strong, and that most of the force is on the leg loop and shoulder straps.
Thanks for those postings ^^
I too WANT this pack...