Right Elbow Tendinitis Q's

Elbow has been sore for a good month and it now getting worse. The elbow is locking out as well and "pops" like cracking your knuckles hard when I try to straighten. First signs were during my last game of golf and since then can't swing, 10 balls out of a bucket and I was done Sat.

Iced of course and felt better...for a bit.

Looked up golfers elbow, tendititis, tennis elbow and the descriptions I get sound more like tennis elbow.

This is what it feels like


Is this something I should have looked at with the popping and stiffness or do I follow a simple "knock it off for a while then strengthen it" dealio?

Dentists please chime in!

the pop sensation is interesting. Not something I would associate with golfer or tennis elbow. Can you fully straighten and fully flex the elbow?

If not and it seems more like something is blocking your motion I would lean more towards a loose body in there.

Sometimes I can straighten it, can always pull it back in. It is the straighten out that makes it pop sometimes and the pop is painful, unlike other normal scar tissue pops I have had. Those don't hurt.

No fall, nothing but one bad particular golf swing. Even since the sucker can act different on any given day, but I obviously can't golf and wonder how a MTB ride would even be now.

Hate injury type things I can't pin to a specific accident or the like....

SO if I understand you correctly, your elbow intermittently seems to catch and you are unable to straiten it? Then when it pops you can straighten it?

If this is correct, I'd be suspicious of a loose body in your elbow.

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Originally Posted by Vinman

SO if I understand you correctly, your elbow intermittently seems to catch and you are unable to straiten it? Then when it pops you can straighten it?

If this is correct, I'd be suspicious of a loose body in your elbow.

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Yep, and you really need to stop typing that last sentence. :biggrin:

sorry bout that. maybe see your doc and think about an x-ray.

Just giving ya crap my friend, thanks for the advice. I am going to go get an xray soon enough.

tendonitis, tennis elbow, whatever you call it, this sucks. its been months. anyone have an exercise regimen or advice? i may take the needle, or get surgery. theres no way i can play golf with this.

i have a travel mug from costco that you have to squeeze a button to operate, fucking ouch!

For me. Prp injections cured it on one elbow and shock waves the other. Both have good theoretical underpinnings.

prp? roids?

I had elbow surgery. Worked well. Takes a long time to heal because limited blood flow there. I tried shots and therapy first. If you do get surgery it will be no golf for six months. Maybe more. Don't even think about it.

I've had tennis elbow 4 or 5 times from WW kayaking and the tinture of time will heal all maybe 6 months

what I found is that if I had to grip something like a paddle for long periods i got tennis elbow so I changed to a werner paddle with small shaft size so the paddle is just laying in my hand and I don't have to grip cuz gripping & pulling are very bad

those arm bands that wrap around the fore arm close to the elbow joint are good

its been bugging me a bit on the skin track this season so I shortened my poles all the way and use them walking stick/cane style ... ratehr apropo for an old fuck

I used to have wicked tendonitis in my elbows when I was a serious rock climber and doing a lot of tweaky face climbs. Acupuncture seemed to fix it and it never came back. Might be worth a try because it's relatively inexpensive.

Platelet rich plasma. But if I were to do it now, I would try shock wave therapy. 5 treatments one a week.

I have therapy scheduled Monday. We'll see what they say. Pole planting for a day results in a pretty uncomfortable evening.

Start by using a forearm band, nice and tight. It will restrict the motion of your wrist. Get it at any big pharmacy.
I had it in both elbows from shoveling snow, one particularly big year--ahh to have a year like that again.
And stop doing what hurts. (Duh).
Injections, surgery are for cases that don't respond to band and rest.
Everyone wants a magic bullet. Bad news--if you keep doing what hurt you you don't get better.

Doc, it hurts when I do this...

I had tennis elbow for 18 months, way back in the 90's. I ran a surefoot and got it from pulling liners in and out of boots. I went to PT, had a couple injections, actually had surgery (which i would advise against).

I ended up getting this, and it was gone in a week. Pretty crazy but it works well. I dont know if this is your problem (foreign body in your arm).

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had some PT on it, massage, stretching, pressing trigger points, ultrasound. felt ok yesterday, sore today. doing the exercises. back for more thursday.

I think I have tennis elbow. Been a hot spot on the bony point of my elbow for a few years. It would get worse and then go away. Last two months it's getting to where I can barely grip at certain angles. Is this even worth going to the Dr? Everything I read says treatment is pretty much rest it- which is hardly an option. Not much I can do without using my right arm.

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Originally Posted by GiBo

I think I have tennis elbow. Been a hot spot on the bony point of my elbow for a few years. It would get worse and then go away. Last two months it's getting to where I can barely grip at certain angles. Is this even worth going to the Dr? Everything I read says treatment is pretty much rest it- which is hardly an option. Not much I can do without using my right arm.

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Spend $12 and get a couple of these. I get golf elbow every now and then and wear these for a few days and it goes away. I get a hot spot on the inside if I let it go. Bonus is they work great with short sleeves on cold days.

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i had epicondolites for years. Had cortizone shots, then surgery. None of it helped.

This is the cure all. A couple weeks with this and it was gone.

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this is all I have ever used ^^ what are you doing that is aggravating the elbow ?

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this is all I have ever used ^^ what are you doing that is aggravating the elbow ?

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Anything with gripping. I did a long paddle three weeks ago and that really aggravated it. Fly fished two days this last weekend and now it's really bad.

I can still lift weights, but exercises that get me into particular angles hurt.

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Originally Posted by GiBo

I think I have tennis elbow. Been a hot spot on the bony point of my elbow for a few years. It would get worse and then go away. Last two months it's getting to where I can barely grip at certain angles. Is this even worth going to the Dr? Everything I read says treatment is pretty much rest it- which is hardly an option. Not much I can do without using my right arm.

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I had shock wave therapy for tendonitis, healed in 5 weeks. Achilles, elbow, shoulder.

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Trippy. Haven't been on here in years and the first thread I see in here is mine from 8 years ago. And I have the same issue over the last month or so again with my elbow. They never found anything in the xray years back either. Damn thing is painful, especially in the morning after sleeping.

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Originally Posted by GiBo

Anything with gripping. I did a long paddle three weeks ago and that really aggravated it. Fly fished two days this last weekend and now it's really bad.

I can still lift weights, but exercises that get me into particular angles hurt.

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yeah IME/IMO its the having to constantly grip something instead of it just being in your hand

I always used the band around just below my elbow, try to use the large torso muscles instead of your arms might help, eventualy it will go away

my 5 instances of tennis elbow in 20+ years had all happened while paddling and it always went away, I changed both my paddles to small shaft werner that don't have overly large blades or long shafts and I have had no reoccurance in 12 years

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Originally Posted by mcski

Doc, it hurts when I do this...

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Use the other hand, son.

I actualy had it in both arms at once from a surf kayak trip to long beach, out of shape beating it out thru the surf swinging a 208 harmony paddle which is LONG, lots of scoop in the blades, more constant abuse than what normaly happens in WW

it went away over the winter

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Everything I read says treatment is pretty much rest it- which is hardly an option.

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Huh? It's pretty well known that tendon injuries don't respond well at all to rest -- yeah, the pain goes away temporarily but returns as soon as activity is increased.

Best option is to stop/minimize doing whatever hurt it while simultaneously getting stronger slowly and progressively. Those therabands seem like a good option, but I do reverse wrist curls. Personally, I also respond well to acupuncture with e-stim and deep friction massage weekly or biweekly while I'm progressively loading the tendon. That combo has worked the best for me, so far.

PRP or shockwave therapy seem like good options for very stubborn and chronic bouts of tendonitis after you've exhausted more conservative approaches. No experience iwth shockwave therapy, and it seems hard to find docs in the US who do it.

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Huh? It's pretty well known that tendon injuries don't respond well at all to rest -- yeah, the pain goes away temporarily but returns as soon as activity is increased.

Best option is to stop/minimize doing whatever hurt it while simultaneously getting stronger slowly and progressively. Those therabands seem like a good option, but I do reverse wrist curls. Personally, I also respond well to acupuncture with e-stim and deep friction massage weekly or biweekly while I'm progressively loading the tendon. That combo has worked the best for me, so far.

PRP or shockwave therapy seem like good options for very stubborn and chronic bouts of tendonitis after you've exhausted more conservative approaches. No experience iwth shockwave therapy, and it seems hard to find docs in the US who do it.

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After my experience with shock wave therapy, it would be the first thing i will do if i develop tendonitis, or more accurately when.

Yes, there are that many people that do it, i love in Tahoe and there is one in Truckee, then Sacramento.
And it will cost 600 for a series of 5 treatments, which is the recommended number.

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Also, it's true, rest doesn't work. You need to strengthen gradually the muscles around it. Tendonitis probably happened because of muscle weakness, more load on the tendon. And the tendon weaker because the muscle was weaker

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Ok, sorry, but when I read on various websites:

*Rest. Avoid activities that aggravate your elbow pain.

*This condition comes from repetition and overuse. As much as you can, rest your elbow.

*Rest — Rest is your first line of defense against this condition. People find it persistent mainly because they don’t take the problem seriously enough. Even a minor injury like this will not just magically go away if you keep doing whatever irritated the forearm muscles and tendons in the first place. A week of resting the arm as much as possible is often enough to make a significant difference.

I took that to mean I should rest it. I see that there are exercises you can do as well after it feels better, but I cannot just stop doing my shit is what I meant.

I've got an appointment tomorrow. We'll see what the doc says.

Thought I'd update this. Doc gave me a cortisone shot. Took a day or two, but the pain in completely gone.

I had cortisone shot in elbow. It lasted a while but I ended up having surgery to fix it. Been good ever since.

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Thought I'd update this. Doc gave me a cortisone shot. Took a day or two, but the pain in completely gone.

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I'm hoping for a similar outcome. Lost a bunch of trees to a storm this past Fall and decided to get some exercise splitting all the wood by hand. Good exercise, but got my first case of tennis elbow. Headed out for a ski trip in a few weeks and think it might be time to try a cortisone shot.

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I'm hoping for a similar outcome. Lost a bunch of trees to a storm this past Fall and decided to get some exercise splitting all the wood by hand. Good exercise, but got my first case of tennis elbow. Headed out for a ski trip in a few weeks and think it might be time to try a cortisone shot.

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Wouldn't do it. You have a lifetime limit of 3 shots in one spot.
Prp will work, but perhaps not in time.

Wave shock therapy will heal it in 5 sessions, once a week.

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Wouldn't do it. You have a lifetime limit of 3 shots in one spot.
Prp will work, but perhaps not in time.

Wave shock therapy will heal it in 5 sessions, once a week.

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Headed to doctor this week - I'll see what he recommends. It's my first bout of tennis elbow and the typical rest and ibuprofen route has gotten me nowhere. Getting old sucks.

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Originally Posted by rod9301

Also, it's true, rest doesn't work. You need to strengthen gradually the muscles around it. Tendonitis probably happened because of muscle weakness, more load on the tendon. And the tendon weaker because the muscle was weaker

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well maybe i'm a special flower but i've had tennis elbow 5 times from gripping things too hard,

each time it eventualy went away after a years or so

and I havent had it for > 10 years now since i wnet to small shaft paddles

Rest works for me. I've had epicondylitis a couple of times over 25 years--both elbows from shoveling snow and from a lot of uphill poling. Both times I was able to get through the snow/ski season with forearm bands and then heal in the off season. Both times the healing lasted for 10+ years.

As far as shock wave therapy--here's a randomized trial that says it doesn't work.
https://journals.lww.com/jbjsjournal...atment.12.aspx