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hardrider and I got to fondle some new K2s today. They had the Maid'ens and Apache Chiefs.
The Chiefs feel absolutely bomber, fackin' stiff, and have sweet dimensions too (edit: see Caddy's post below).
The Maid'ens were really stiff in the middle 80% or so and then had a nice flex in the tip and tail.
Obviously don't know how they ski or how well they'll hold up, but they sure do seem like some nice boards.
Chiefs look sweet. But no turned up tail which means Ill never own a pair.
damn you're steezy.Quote:
Originally posted by hardrider
Chiefs look sweet. But no turned up tail which means Ill never own a pair.
I keeps it real, I keeps it real.Quote:
Originally posted by Tyrone Shoelaces
damn you're steezy.
The Cheif is 126-98-116 I think.
Best K2 I've skied on since a race-stock pair of Merlin V's, solid smooth feel, like old K2's. Actual buildup underfoot and no waving like lawnchairs. Nice ski.
Hey, Arty, have you picked up a Kahuna before? Maiden any stiffer, anyone?
Like the dimensions, but still think the Kahuna is too soft, I thought that I remembered someone saying the Maiden was the same just different topsheet.
Never flexed the kahunas but I wouldn't call the Maiden a noodle.Quote:
Originally posted by CaddyDaddy77
The Cheif is 126-98-116 I think.
Best K2 I've skied on since a race-stock pair of Merlin V's, solid smooth feel, like old K2's. Actual buildup underfoot and no waving like lawnchairs. Nice ski.
Hey, Arty, have you picked up a Kahuna before? Maiden any stiffer, anyone?
Like the dimensions, but still think the Kahuna is too soft, I thought that I remembered someone saying the Maiden was the same just different topsheet.
Would you own one?Quote:
Originally posted by hardrider
Never flexed the kahunas but I wouldn't call the Maiden a noodle.
I've got Kahunas. Like Hardrider said, it's a really progressive flex...very soft tip, but a decent platform. In fact, I found them to ski pretty stiff on hardpack (I mounted neutral, no fore or aft, I may have to give fore a try this season), in that I still had to pressure the tip quite a bit. I think I'll try and find some of those drive+ ramps, the bindings have no lifters whatsoever on them now and the forward cant might help put a little more pressure on the tips, enhancing performance. If that doesn't work, I might remount forward. We'll see.
Maidens are the exact same ski, but are offered in a shorter length as well (179). So they're not as big and noodly.
Then you might wanna change your handle dood ;) Nah, maybe not a noodle but it ain't a plank either, imo well on the soft side of the spectrum.Quote:
Originally posted by hardrider
Never flexed the kahunas but I wouldn't call the Maiden a noodle.
Btw. who of you guys would even consider the Apache Chief in the 99mm waist range with Bro's coming out and all? Or do they have too little rear tail too? Hardrider, do you even go switch? Personally I'd never compromise in a skis stability/durability in order to get even the slightest twin; though of course it won't bother me uf it's there and doesn't take away too much effective base/edge length.
Apache Chief=sleeper hit of the coming season.
IMO.
Check out SKI's reviews on the new K2s.
I expected a total sign off, but it didn't happen.
Apache Chief:
"Dust on crust? Leave them in the rack."
Word on the street is, the new Seth Pistol, called the "Seth Vicious", will be modeled off of the Big Chief in cut and construction. Perhaps a similar flex too? But twinned for sure. There you go, Hardrider.
And no, I doubt they'll be noodles. They don't seem too stoked to repeat the flex of the first year SPs.
What's up with their boot?
Anyone?
What does SKI have to say about the Apache Recon?
Me, only because I get pro-form on K2 and they are going to look so nice with the pair of Naxo's I'm getting for free mounted on top of them.Quote:
Btw. who of you guys would even consider the Apache Chief in the 99mm waist range with Bro's coming out and all? [/B]
I would like to get the bro's, but the only $450 I've got is going towards a pair of Spatulas.
I think it's still in testing. But supposedly it's in the bag, a done deal. Probably out at mid-season, which is when the factory team stuff gets released...Quote:
Originally posted by optics
What's up with their boot?
Anyone?
'Playful, balanced, versatileQuote:
Originally posted by The AD
What does SKI have to say about the Apache Recon?
Not especially comfortable at high speeds'
I'm looking at the Apache Pros simply because the BroModel is too long for to use as an everyday board here on the EC. If a 180 or so cm version comes out sometime before next year, I'm ready to buy a pair, so hoepfully that works out, cuz I really don't feel like supporting K2.
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Originally posted by glademaster
I'm looking at the Apache Pros simply because the BroModel is too long for to use as an everyday board here on the EC. If a 180 or so cm version comes out sometime before next year, I'm ready to buy a pair, so hoepfully that works out, cuz I really don't feel like supporting K2.
ben, the bro's arent too big. You just keep telling yourself that they are. The spats are 186 no? You've got two days left, buy the bros.
The bros would be perfect for those deep days at jay.
ski the bros every day at jay.. theyre not too big for the ec.. i spent a lot of the season on 200s in the trees.. and a lot more of it on 189s.
I'd say Chiefs are soft - didn't ride them but flexed - even Pistols are stiffer.Quote:
Originally posted by Arty50
The Chiefs feel absolutely bomber, fackin' stiff, and have sweet dimensions too
Neither of these skis would be purchased for this season anyway, I'm investing in Body Armor and such for this year and next season will be dedicated to revamping and upgrading the quiver.Quote:
Originally posted by CantDog
ben, the bro's arent too big. You just keep telling yourself that they are. The spats are 186 no? You've got two days left, buy the bros.
The bros would be perfect for those deep days at jay.
Apache Chief, So hot right now.Quote:
Originally posted by bossass
Apache Chief=sleeper hit of the coming season.
Wonder what those Fujatives are like (still searching for that bigmountain park dual use ski to replace my V-Pros)
Fujatives are not so hot outside the park...
They have a weird tip and tail flex point don't they? Meant for butters and shit? I remember hearing that..Quote:
Originally posted by crashnburn'd
Fujatives are not so hot outside the park...
Checked out Chiefs and Pistols yesterday, and the chief is by far stiffer than the pistol. The chief might just be the sleeper ski this year.
That's right. I'd recommend them only as a park-rat ski.Quote:
Originally posted by davey
They have a weird tip and tail flex point don't they? Meant for butters and shit? I remember hearing that..
the chief looks interesting but even more so is the new seth pro model, the seth vicious. have yet to hear or see numbers but from the sound of it it's gonna be wider underfoot and stiffer than the past two pistols.
here is some stuff i read on the K2 factory team board
seth on the chief - "I have skied them and they were fun, but not twin tipped, so they ski different in the aspect that the tails feel like they hold you in the turn longer than a ski that has a twin, where you are able to end the turn when you want to or srub the turn out.
I skied this ski to see how the wider waist would work, this is something we are going to use for the new Seth that will be out in Dec/Jan.
Basically the Apache is the next generation of the Ak Launcher."
did anyone confirm that the Maide'n is last yrs Kahuna w/a diff top sheet? I got the Kahunas last season and loved 'em. They are BIG, and mounted neutral w/only toe piece raiser plate (heel sans raiser) they rocked the pow in Tahoe for me all season.
Not the best ski to drag around all day when hiking/skating BC, but for chair accessed deep days, lots of float, not too soft, just right for me.
yeah dude, they're the same ski.
I picked up Kahunas too, only have 3 days on them so far, but they seem promising for sure.