So been thinking about getting into drinking some whiskey/whisky.
I know pretty much nothing about it, and since i am sure many of you have that knowledge i come to you for some help
i need a game plan
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So been thinking about getting into drinking some whiskey/whisky.
I know pretty much nothing about it, and since i am sure many of you have that knowledge i come to you for some help
i need a game plan
Some nice Canadian, VO would be a good choice. Some ice and a splash of water or soda. Work up to Bourbon and Scotch.
a gin and tonic will cure your ailments. then, when you're ready, you can enjoy a nice islay or a bulleit. be warned: you can take up to ten years to mature.
oh i love me some gin and tonics, and straight tequila. i feel like whiskey is classy, and i only really get gin and tonics when its warm out
If you can't figure out whiskey you ain't trying and you sure ain't getting any sympathy from me. Try some Rebel Yell until the training wheels fall off.
You wanna drink it straight up, or you want to be able to enjoy it mixed?
I gotta say, I think the Whiskey and Ginger Ale is damn near the best mixed drink available.
I've only gotten into the brown water in the last few years. I prefer Bourbon. Can't go wrong with Jack, Beam, or Maker's.
+1 for Whiskey and GingerQuote:
Originally Posted by bossass
While those first two bourbons are good for mixing, they aren't nearly as smooth for sipping as a Jameson or Bushmill's. But I am partial to some Irish whiskey.
I would say, if you have the money, to buy a fifth of a few different kinds. If you don't like one on the rocks, then maybe just through it in a tall glass with your mix of choice. If you find one that you enjoy straight then you could look into that companies different aged varieties.
Whisky:
The word whisky was originally derived from the Gaelic ‘uisge beatha’ – appropriately meaning ‘the water of life’.
Some good whisky info here, worth checking out:
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=77948
My preference: two awesome Scotch malts from Islay, very smooth but still plenty of peaty smokiness. Close to perfection, best enjoyed without ice/water or any mixers:
Caol Ila or Lagavulin :yourock::yourock:
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Fuggit - get yerself a bottle of Macallan 25 and drink it all.
If anyone else calls Jack Daniels "Bourbon" or "good" I will personally kick your ass. If you want to learn what good liquor tastes like don't buy anything that high schoolers drink.
Scotch (single Malt)
-Macallan Cask Strength... mix with a little filtered water or one ice cube. We drink Scotch too warm in the US. You need to water this Scotch down since it's between 100-120 proof. Seriously, you need to do it to get the taste right. Best bang for the buck IMHO.
-The aforementioned Lagavulin... a smoky Islay
-Laphroaig... another smoky tasting Islay
-Oban... briny, peaty, completely different tasting than the above
-Cragganmore... a classic Speyside Whisky
Bourbon (small Batch)
-Woodford Reserve
-Blanton's
-Booker's (also cask strength - needs water or an ice cube)
grab a bottle of Crown. Put ice in a glass. Add water, 7up, Coke, whatever ya like. Repeat.
lagavulin & laphroaig are my personal favorites but starting out you probably want something less smokey....dalwhinnie is a good beginners scotch. put some in a glass on some ice and splash some water on it. it'll taste pretty strong off the bat but as the ice melts the bite mellows out and you can taste the nuances of the scotch. diehards are against water and/or ice, but you've got to develop the taste before you can appreciate it straight up.
welcome to the man club.
Oban is one of my favorites. What I heard through the grapevine is their storage site burnt down, so quantities may be lacking in the coming years, so buy up if you like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tippster
Can anyone confirm/deny this? I heard from a reputable source but the google does nothing.
I'd suggest that you go to a bar that has an extensive selection of whiskey during a slow time of day and talk to the bartender. Explain that you are trying to cultivate a taste for good whiskey and would like to taste some of his or her favorites. The best way to learn about what you like is to taste a lot of different whiskeys. Your palate may get a bit fatigued after five or six different whiskeys, so you'll probably need to do this a few times (life's tuff, right?). The last thing you want to do right now is to go buy an expensive bottle of single malt. You don't have the palate to appreciate it, yet. Instead you should taste a lot of great whiskey so that you can get a good handle on what you actually enjoy.
As an aside: Good whiskey should always be served with a splash of water. I usually put about a tablespoon of water into an ounce of whiskey when I'm tasting. The water helps to open up the nose of the whiskey without significantly affecting the flavor or mouthfeel.
Good advices.
My 0.2E : Do not limit yourself to one whisky. You'll need a quiver. At least 3 or 4 different brand, with different flavours, to suit the mood of the day.
Oh, and do you guys need a frenchman to remind you that Rye is an american classic ? Pappy makes great stuff...
http://www.oldripvanwinkle.com/newbs...yrRyeLabel.jpg
advres : Thanks for the pointer. I'm stocking Oban right now. A great "all moutain" whisky IMO.
Another vote for Makers Mark
If you've heard of it before, its probably not very good.
I prefer my whiskey shaken quickly with ice and then strained. It adds a little water, cools it a touch but doesn't get watered down. I hate icecubes melting in my drink. If i don't go that way, I like it "neat" which is straight.
Of the ones that you might have heard of, Jameson is good.... when you're going to mix something into it.
Tullamore Dew is one of my favorites to enjoy.
I am not much of a whiskey drinker, but whiskey and ginger is a good fucking drink.
Some company is good too Tip, hard work on your own, maybe not too healthy either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tippster
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Originally Posted by XtrPickels
You want to really blow the bartenders mind! Ask if they can through the ice in a rocks glass on the side. That way you can suck on it between sips, not wasting any of the alcohol. Good stuff!Quote:
Originally Posted by XtrPickels
Most of my evenings involve a good wank and a glass of this...
http://www.whiskygrotto.com/wp-conte...y_bottle04.jpg
+1 for drawing the line between shite and whiskey!
Personally Balvinie Double wood 12yr. is the best bang for your buck, smooth and easy I'd list the tasting notes but that goes beyond obnoxious.
If I'm heading out and looking for a decent (cheaper) whiskey I bring Jameson's; good straight (neat), out of the bottle or if you must mix it, it goes great in a black pint.
Other than that I've taken to drinking whiskeys that are limited bottlings. Usually really good always a little different and definitely fun to bust out around folks that like their whiskeys.
I like JD more than any other whiskey or Scotch (I hate Scotch). To each his own.
I like it on the rocks which is slightly barbaric but again. I like it!
Good way to learn how to drink whiskey is drink it with a beer back. I like a Heineken or a Pilsner with a Jack rocks.
But how many different single malt scotches have you tried? They are all quite different and have major taste differences. I don't try to sway anyone either way, but maybe you just haven't tried one that suits your taste. Scotch is yummy!Quote:
Originally Posted by 4matic
I've tried enough to know that I like Jack. I was at a fancy charity deal at the Olympic Club where they had free tastings of VERY expensive single malt Scotch. Meh.. I went back to the bar for a whiskey and a beer.Quote:
Originally Posted by advres
Tasting single malt scotchs is different than drinking whiskyQuote:
Originally Posted by advres
Dick Swinging pretensious connoisseurship vs. drinking.
I grew up on Jack and still drink it. nothing wrong with it any more than any other mid-level liquor. It most certainly is not swill or rotgut...
Not a fan of woodford - customer gave me a bottle. I drank it and went right back to Jack.
I don't believe whiskey/bourbon can be compared to scotch. two entirely different experiences. A nice Oban or Macallan and a cohiba...pretty much the perfect end to an evening.
Agreed. Tippster knows his shit!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tippster
I hated scotch when I was young until I tried my first Glenfidich strait up. It was so smooth and tasty, I was in awe. It is a great scotch to get introduced to the wide world of.
Then the world of Scotch opened up to me and I had the chance to try many others from your average blends to single malt magic.
Some you will like more than others and some you may not like much at all, however, you will aquire a taste for what you like and should be able to like it straight up or "neat" as it were!
There is no classier drink in my mind!
Jack = tastes like liquid smoke = fail.
I don't think if you dislike it you can grow to like it so don't bother. But for the whiskey drinkers, if you ever get a bottle that just plain sucks, two drops of bitters in just about anything will make it drinkable.
oh and scotch is for preening nancyboys, get over it.
Why not drink the Rum designed for a Cohiba?Quote:
Originally Posted by tex1230
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I don't like sweet drinks. Beam and ginger is way too sugary for me, unless it's made with real ginger beer, and many bourbon offerings are too sweet even neat. For brown liquor, then, I really like the Elijah Craig and Bulleit offerings- check 'em out. Baker's is good too and a little easier to find.
Whiskey, whiskey... What time is it?
I would take your statement under advisement but I am a dick swinging pretentious connoisseur so I have no time for your blathering. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Conway
So why all the hate for Scotch, really? It seems cultural rather than the drink itself?
I've been wanting to explore Scotch, but it seems like an expensive endeavor unless I can find a sampling or something...
If we're talking whisky:
George Dickel No. 12 Tennessee Whisky.
Dalmore is a gentle single malt scotch, not too hard on the pocketbook either. Macallan's has great subtlety and complexity, very pricey, still very smooth. Lagavulin has too much character for many, but can't be beat on a cold wet evening. Laphroaig ... my wife calls it burnt formaldehyde ... and she has a point.
Have a tasting party.
Rule #1: Nobody drives home.
Rule #2: everybody brings a decent bottle.
Halfs & opened are ok - we're talking expensive stuff here, gotta keep the barrier to entry as low as possible. This may encourage the connoiseurs to bring several opened bottles from their reserve.
Rule #3: everybody keeps what's left of their bottle (swap what you will) - unless this is gonna be a regular tasting, in which case it's ok to leave it all with the host, since every attendant will play host at some point.
Rule #4: absolutely no spitting.
If you can find it, the Pendleton stuff that Parvo posted a pic of is the smoothest, easiest drinking whiskey I've ever had.
Sit down with a bartender that really enjoys scotch has a big selection and tell them you want to learn. If they are not busy, they will go through a bunch with you. You're first few times doing this might be a little pricey, but you will have a few good ideas of what you like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Summit
When buying an expensive bottle, remember it is going to last a good while. A good scotch is something you come home to and have a couple of fingers to unwind and that's it. You don't have 10 drinks of it in a night. You save the JD for those nights.
Good idea. Expect to drop $15 a shot for the better stuff, though. Might wanna build a relationship with said bartender.Quote:
Originally Posted by advres
You might want to get a second mortgage before trying this. Just find a decent liquor store and buy a couple bottles. Split with a friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Witherspoon
Come out on the piss with me in Glasgow and say that, then we will see who the preening nancy boy is :D In fact that is a good challenge to lay down in any bar in Scotland, the rougher the better, you'll be guaranteed some lively drinking buddies.Quote:
Originally Posted by lemon boy
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Originally Posted by Moose Pit
It's all goodQuote:
Originally Posted by 4matic