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So I haven't paid attention for two days now, and I come back and Brett is banned? WTF? What happened? All I know is an alleged spat between Blurred and Dex...I'm trying to find the offending thread/posting, but I can't find it anywhere. Somebody wanna help?
Check your inbox.
Move right along. Nothing to see here.
Hey, Jetter! Once you "check your inbox" could share with the rest of us that missed out, too? Ahhhhh, drama!
Saw that one, looking for the offending avatar!
been erased.
This is a summary of the most recent round (I believe it is as unbiased as I can possibly make it):
Dexter attacks Blurred in in Snowfire's patroller/abasin thread (promptec by splats request that he NOT attack there because the thread is supporting Colorado mag/min unity, Dexter attacks and declares the attacks will continue unless Blurred "makes ammends" for past wrongs (from the last 2 years or something)) much discussion, many people tell Dex to stop pursuing his vendetta, others defend his right to (counter)attack. Blurred counterattacks with such ferocity that Snowfire deletes the thread.
Blurred posts a thread to organize a Colorado mini summit to support Colorado mag/min unity.
Blurred uses a publicly available picture of Dex as his avatar and places the words "Prozac" on the image.
Dexter attacks the mini summit thread because Blurred had started the thread (though nothing in the thread was about Dexter (except Blurred's avatar)).
Dexter starts the thread "Hugeairdog: fucking psycho nut"
http://tetongravity.com/forums/showt...threadid=10985
in which he cries foul on Blurred's new avatar. The thread reaches two pages, mostly of people telling Dex to stop complaining that he is being as bad as Blurred or is simply playing right into Blurred's hands. (at that point, different angle after next event)
Owens Never Sleeps arbitrarily and uncerimoniously deletes Blurred Eleven's account and announces that he has done so because of Blurred's new avatar.
(When informed by phone, Blurred states "So? I don't really care that much. It's just the internet.)
Many cheer for ONS's action. I however was offended by what I view as an abuse.
I attack ONS and post this thread EX POST FACTOR (TGR IS NOW MODERATED):
http://tetongravity.com/forums/showt...threadid=10994
Some people agree with me but mostly people shit on me for attacking ONS and/or defending principle and friend. Some do speak well of Blurred and one mag/min intimates that she will not be posting here as a result of these events. The thread is at 7 pages with ONS wishing it would go away and many people trying to close it by hijacking it with pizza discussions.
Brett's Anus, a normally anti-Blurred and anti-me alias actually decries ONS's action, bumps all of my stoke threads with pics of Blurred (ex http://tetongravity.com/forums/showt...358#post139358 ), and declares his retirement because with Blurred, gone, the alias became pointless as it was created to antagonize Blurred. http://tetongravity.com/forums/showt...threadid=11000
Dexter declares that he didn't call for Blurred to be banned and that he doesn't support such censorship.
This thread is fucking hillarious: http://tetongravity.com/forums/showt...threadid=11012
That's pretty much it.
Wow. I had no idea Dexter started the whole thing. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by SummitCo 1776
This is a summary of the most recent round (I believe it is as unbiased as I can possibly make it):
Dexter attacks Blurred in in Snowfire's patroller/abasin thread blahblahblahblah whine whine whine
Bad Dexter! No soup for you! :D
You're biting the hand that feeds you, and are too stupid to realize the hand turning into a fist. His place, his rules. It's not as much "freedom of speech" as it is about common decency and not being a complete fuckwit.Quote:
I attack ONS and post this thread EX POST FACTOR (TGR IS NOW MODERATED):
http://tetongravity.com/forums/showt...threadid=10994
Some people agree with me but mostly people shit on me for attacking ONS and/or defending principle and friend.
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Sure, that's what happened. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by SummitCo 1776
This is a summary of the most recent round (I believe it is as unbiased as I can possibly make it):
..blah blah blah...
That's pretty much it.
As has been said several times already, you should probably just get over it. Otherwise what's the point of hanging around this forum?
(BTW, your hero worship of Blurred is really quite scary. You might want to find someone more worthy of that honor.)
Man, I bet living in the mountains can be BORING sometimes.
Just FYI, you forgot to mention that you called ONS a motherfucker.
But you didn't mention that the banning was due to ongoing incidents:Quote:
Originally posted by SummitCo 1776
Owens Never Sleeps arbitrarily and uncerimoniously deletes Blurred Eleven's account and announces that he has done so because of Blurred's new avatar.
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Originally posted by Owens Never Sleeps
You can question all you want -- I've been VERY tolerant of Brett. I've asked him on several occasions to mellow the fuck out. But he doesn't get it. It's a really big internet -- there are plenty of places that he is free to rampantly fuck with people. I generally have a pretty thick skin and I let this go on WAY longer than I should have. All of this negative bullshit is dragging the board in a direction that I hate to see it go. We've had a large number of the most productive members of this board decide to leave largely because of the unchecked bullshit that Blurred slings and the effect it has on the vibe and the stoke of the community. Over the last year, I've had AT LEAST a hundred requests to ban the guy and I've stuck up for him, free speech, fight your own battles, etc..
That's pretty unbiased.
Riiight... and monkeys might fly out of my butt.
I said it before and I'll say it again, Brett's a big boy and can take care of himself. ONS is a freaking giant among netizens. You, on the other hand, my young friend, are becoming the irritant du jour. That's a polite way of saying whiney, little bitch.
Let it go, make some friends in the real world, go skiing and realize that with or without you, Brett, Dex, ONS or any of this shit, life will go on, skiers will congregate where there's skiing, stoke will be spread when it's legit, hammers will come down where they need to, and Frozen will continue to molest hobos.
SuPu offers sound advice. "Don't be a fukwit."
Seeing how you are completely incapable of making it unbiased, maybe you shouldn't be the one posting.Quote:
Originally posted by SummitCo 1776
This is a summary of the most recent round (I believe it is as unbiased as I can possibly make it):
I just don't get why this was the straw that broke the camel's back. The stuff that Owen's referenced was some of the more reprehensible stuff any of us have seen posted. the avatar bit was pretty freaking hilarious, though.
Any good conflict can go back and back and back with who killed who and who desicrated what. Their hostility apparently goes back for years.Quote:
Originally posted by Punani
Wow. I had no idea Dexter started the whole thing. :rolleyes:
This most recent spat (being that there was a lull in hostilities between the two for a while before:) was triggered by Dexter's comments against Blurred in Snowfire's thread.
Blurred is a friend, ski buddy, and damned good skierm, nothing more and certainly not an idol.
If you don't like AND can't handle what I'm saying, ignore me by all means. I'm not going to conform to your opinion just because you disagree.
IIRC correctly, ONS said that Blurred stepped over the line with the avatar, but you are right that he says his decision was also based on the longstanding conflicts.
Summit, do you write for Fox news?Quote:
Originally posted by SummitCo 1776
This is a summary of the most recent round (I believe it is as unbiased as I can possibly make it):
Fox news does not acknowledge their blatant bias.
actually I found to be so "high school", it was:
sad but funny
funny but true
I mean serious high school bullsthit
[Whinybitch voice] "my feelings where hurt" [Whinybitch voice]
"so I'm gonna tell everybody"[Whinybitch voice]
And now, this breaking news . . . .Quote:
Originally posted by SummitCo 1776
Fox news does not acknowledge their blatant bias.
Our very own Red Baron, live from Stoke Central . . . .
Red?
Red
Calling Red Baron! :D
Frozen is molesting hobos?
no, md9 killed hobos, I killed chics. It's all in the past. Except for that one hobo I molested earlier today. But it's all good cause I thought it was a chic.
dude...an avatar with somebody's pic, and "viagra" written on it? that's hilarious!
this drama is remarkably high-schoolish.
so that's it, eh? hmmph.
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Originally posted by Jetter
dude...an avatar with somebody's pic, and "viagra" written on it? that's hilarious!
this drama is remarkably high-schoolish.
so that's it, eh? hmmph.
That is funny, unless the person who's in the avatar doesn't think it's funny. The thing about the internet is that all you have to convey emotions are the Smilies. There's no way to say, "F*** you, I want to kick your ass" and really get your emotion across. I'd be willing to bet that if Blurred could've seen Dexter's face when he saw the avatar, he would have removed the offending material, or at least appologized. It should be as simple as this: don't say or do anything on this board that you wouldn't do or say to that person's face. And if you need an alias to really say what you want to say, you probably shouldn't say it. It's like talking behind someone's back, making sure they can hear you, but disguising your voice.
Although I can't say I ever had a run-in with Blurred, I can, and have, said that his antics are, at the very least, annoying. I would never wish anyone to be banned, but anyone who has been here for a while shouldn't be surprised. If you want to complain that Blurred is getting the short straw, just remember that a lot more people dislike Blurred than dislike Dexter.
And don't blame Owens for Blurred's irresponsibility.
Very true, DuctTape. Over on pmag I used to get riled by a few of Brett's comments but came to realise over time that many of them were clumsily tongue in cheek rather than blatant attacks.
When his behaviour seemed to improve this year I almost posted a thread titled 'The Rehabilitation Of Blurred?' but ditched it when I stopped to think who could be responsible for the more offensive aliases in the light of the more considered, stoke-providing Brett.
Much as he deserved what he got, I'm still a bit sorry to see the back of him. Behind all that bluster and machismo could be a decent guy. I don't think he ever saw past the hard man act.
That's right folks! Step right up! Popularity contest here! You'd damned well better win it! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by SponsoredByDuctTape
If you want to complain that Blurred is getting the short straw, just remember that a lot more people dislike Blurred than dislike Dexter.
I've heard "might makes right."
But, "Popularity makes right?"
This is NOT highschool but it sure seems like it. Grow up. :rolleyes:
It's not about popularity contests. It's about the fact that nobody here (or very few!) finds Dexter offensive whereas Blurred was the poster boy for the ignore function. That's all.
I'm sure that if you took a poll, dexter would win, but probably not by the margine you might think.
I'd wager money that more people dislike dexter than voice there opinions because its not the sheik thing to rip on him.
Though it was for a brief moment today... until ONS killed Blurred's account... then everyone rallied the other direction.
Similarly, I *know* (because many have told me) that many people don't agree with the shit that went down but they are keeping quiet rather than face the ridicule and shitstorm like I dealt with for speaking up and sticking to my position.
Thusly, the neutral observer can only observe that *everyone* hates blurred.
Its cool to rip on Blurred. Everyone jumped on that bandwagon.
It is a popularity issue. It is highschool mob mentality. If you don't see it, you haven't been paying attention. That's all I have to say about that.
TREE! SNOW! MORNING LIGHT!
When Dex was perceived as taking things too far, he got called out for it. Pinner got taken to task for posting useless threads, md9 got some grief for opening up on KQ, even iceman copped some disapproval for letting dipstik have it with both barrels. This place self regulates pretty well if you ask me, even if you are one of the clique.
I don't think it ever was cool to rip on Blurred. Ragging on Brett was like dynamiting fish in a barrel. By the same token, I think Blurred had found a target in Dex who was a little easier to get a rise out of than most of the others he'd tried.
That's a cool image, poon. I like it, but I think it needs a darker background:
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Originally posted by Punani
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I agree with just about everything you posted, but I think you're wrong (unfortunately) on the above. Not that my expression actually was that dramatic, but what you're imagining as my reaction was exactly what Blurred wanted, and there's no way he would ever feel sorry for upsetting someone on the board. It was his, as they say in France (and Canada with a funnier accent), raison d'etre.Quote:
Originally posted by SponsoredByDuctTape
I'd be willing to bet that if Blurred could've seen Dexter's face when he saw the avatar, he would have removed the offending material, or at least appologized.
As for the popularity contest aspect, I agree that it's wrong to decide anything that way, but it's also dumb to argue (as SC00.001 has) that both parties have to be held responsible for all conflicts. There clearly was a board instigator, who enjoyed that role, and didn't know where the line between ordinary trolling and borderline stalking was. His avowed reason for being here was to piss people off, and dumbshit attention whores who use a dozen aliases (or more) to make threats against people don't need others sticking up for them.
Christ, the guy obsessively posted in response to me, even though he knew I had him on ignore and wasn't seeing his posts. There was one thread a month or so ago where I posted about 12 times and every single post of mine was followed by something from him. If I hadn't been told about the avatar privately, I wouldn't have found out.
I will say again that I'm nearly always against any official moderation on the board, but given his bizarre pattern of behavior I have difficulty arguing too strongly against what ONS did (and I'll just say for the record, again, that I had absolutely no input of any kind into what ONS decided, and learned of it only hours after it had been done).
That is all.
Just have to chime in. Don't like to see banning, but if anyone desereved it, it is Blurred. Never saw anything positive from the guy besides good ski pictures, but even those are negated by his hostility. Dex, a little defensive, sometimes hostile, but I've seen him offer help and support to others in need. I say, the more perspectives, the better the board, but when someone becomes destructive, it is a detriment. Good riddance.
I wish I'd heard about the hobo molestation thing a couple of days ago ...
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I actually know someone who has a tattoo incredibly similar to this (yeah, he's not normal). SP, you could charge royalties, no?