I think this might be inevitable....who would be on top?
Remember Kerry-Edwards before they became Kerry/Edwards?
I am just calling this from the sidelines, I have no pony in this years race.
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I think this might be inevitable....who would be on top?
Remember Kerry-Edwards before they became Kerry/Edwards?
I am just calling this from the sidelines, I have no pony in this years race.
no......
if anything, i'd lean more toward Richardson as a veep.
If Obama wants to sleep at night, Hillary would not be a great choice.
Is Hillary playing nicey-nice with anyone, currently?
How about Obama?
This question is retarded. Hillary and Obama will not share a ticket.
wtf kind of plane is that anyway mrw??Quote:
Originally Posted by mrw
I am still pushing for a Oprah/Willie Nelson ticket.
They would slay it.
Willie would need to be on the green ticket ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
Beechcraft Starship. It's about 10-15 years old. Beech built them based on a Rutan design. It was wildly unsuccessful. Corporate types are notoriously conservative + several jets could run rings around it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tye 1on
Beech stopped production after around 20 were made and then ended up buying most of them back and destroying them to limit liability and eliminate service headaches.
I think one guy held on to his and bought a few others for parts and is still flying it.
I based my little Grumman AA1 at PNE (Phila.,northeast) and a guy would fly in with one once or twice a month.It's just an incredible aircraft
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edit to add the noise they make as they fly over you is OUTSTANDING
Obama and Wesley Clark
Sweet...Quote:
Originally Posted by mrw
Prolly gets sick 'mileage' too.
Yeah, bet the noise is like the Avanti, but 4 times louder.
Your aa1 look like this?
same color?
http://www.eagle1aviation.net/images...A/DSC00666.JPG
Rideit i'd tell ya sorry for the threadjack if i was :D
the planes are sexier....
My money is still on Obama - Edwards. I think the democrats will want to pair a more traditional candidate with Obama and Edwards was sucking up during the last debate.
Who do you have in mind, schindler?
Both parties are just SOOO fractured....
Nothing scarier than a Vice President named Clark... especially if he ends up on a ticket with a female president.
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Obama and Hilary will not share a ticket; it just wouldn't make any sense. Hilary has done nothing but ride Obama for having too little experience, and Obama slags Hilary for being a Washington insider. Either one is going to be looking to pick up some foreign experience / military credentials. Look for Biden to become prominent soon. Very senior Senator and chairman of the senate committee on foreign relations. As for McCain, I wouldn't be shocked if he tabs Lieberman. If its Romney, then God help us all.
Good point.
They both need a little 'gravitas'....
How about an Obama/McCain independent ticket?
HOLY SHIT!!!!! That is the exact duplicate of the one I owned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tye 1on
Mine was 9346L mfg date in 1971. Mine was the 500th made.
Where was that photo taken?
I have to dig up some pics and post them
How could liberman or edwards want to play second fiddle again? I just don't see it.
Neither for Biden, he gives up too much power - its a demotion.
Richardson, Vilsack or Clark have the best chance. Clark already is a hillary supporter I think. Definitely not two senators on the same ticket. Except that someone mentioned obama - hagel. that would be interesting, but hagel is a repub douche at the core.
You really don't follow politics too closely, do you? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
Nope...I gave up after the last round.
(But I know that the MCain/Obama quip was a patently absurdist suggestion)
Kinda like the Tour De France...just too much bullshit.
I don't think Obama/Clinton is a good idea, but I think Obama/Edwards would be pretty solid - assuming Edwards would want to run as VP again.
S.C.O.R.C.H.E.D.E.A.R.T.H... HmmmQuote:
Originally Posted by Summit
ps. Where the hell is Tipp? This is so his subject.
I think Obama/Dodd would work out wonderfully.
Obama is going to need a strong VP that has a military/foreign policy background in addition to someone that projects experience.(Obama has the race factor and "inexperience" meme to deal with.) Edwards would help with the south but too many people distrust him because of his tort law background.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon turner
If it was Edwards/Obama it might be different. But your still left with a team of senators.
I'd love to see an Obama/Richardson ticket. Really like the experience Richardson brings to the table.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tye 1on
I don't see Obama taking Clinton as a VP because she is part of the "business as usual" crowd he as spent his entire campaign distancing him from. I don't see Clinton taking Obama as a VP because he is far more likable than she is and she won't put herself in a position to be upstaged by someone close to her.
So, no we won't see an Obama/Clinton ticket.
kucinich and utah phillips.... ohhh yes. maybe resurrect edward abbey. if bush can get elected, we can elect a dead dude right?
Ask John Ashcroft about electing dead dudes.Quote:
Originally Posted by skibuminwyo
For the Democrats:
- Richardson is waiting for the Veep call, but has the open New Mexico Senate seat to fall back on (he's popular and connected enough to pick it up late). He was so Mr. Niceguy in his Pres. campaign that he could only have been running for VP or party support for his Senate run.
- Wes Clark backed Hilary early and would round out her campaign well, but he'd also settle for SecDef or maybe even SecState - the guy just doesn't want to work a regular job or retire. Picking him as VP means dumping him in 4 years or running an election in 8 years with no VP to hand off the nomination to - Clark is too old in 8 years and Hilary won't hand over the presidency sooner. Not sure I see Clark riding with Obama, but I wouldn't call it impossible.
- Biden has sworn up and down that he wouldn't take a job as SecState or VP, and his outrage at the media bias toward the celebrity candidates would bee yet another blabber mouth moment for the opposition to have a field day with.
- Dodd doesn't carry any states Obama or Hilary can't win on their own and is an old schooler of the type Obama wants to change. Count him out as VP, but might take a cabinet job with his finance background - though I don't know why he'd give up his cush Senate gig.
- Edwards has said he's not going to take a VP job and with his fightiness this time around, paired with his wife's health issues, I'd say he wants the big prize or to go home having moved the arguements.
- Obama and Hilary together could happen if Hilary takes the top of the ticket in a long, long battle with Barack - she'd have to believe he can give her states she couldn't win on her own. He'd go for it cuz he wants the big chair and has time to work up to it. He won't choose her, that's for sure.
- A Gore/Obama ticket would be the raddest and the easiest win, but won't happen.
- Hagel won't tie up with any of the Democrats who have a chance.
- Evan Bayh might make a Hilary or Obama running mate - the party owes him and he opted not to run early so he may have been promised.
- Mark Warner (former VA Gov.) has the ability to guarantee more of the South on a Hilary or Obama ticket, plus his experience isn't the worst and he's young enough to take the baton in 8 years.
- Vilsack started kissing Hilary's ass early so she'd pay off his campaign debt, but I wouldn't completely count him out of the VP, but I wouldn't put him anywhere near the top
- Kathleen Sebilius (Gov. of Kansas) has been mentioned as a great VP candidate but a woman VP candidate is not so likely with the big democratic contenders
On the Republican side...
- Jeb Bush guarantees Florida goes Red and as the smarter of the Bush kids he won't scare off too many swing voters
- McCain or Guiliani might do something crazy like pick Hagel as a running mate, but I doubt Rudy gets the nom
- If not Jeb or Hagel, it'll probably be a team of 2 of the current candidates, but not Romney, McCain, and Ron Paul are not going to be anyones VP picks.
- I don't know the republican bench well enough to make deeper picks
How about an Emo Phillips/Utah Phillips ticket?
So, just for the record, guess who said today that a Clinton/Obama ticket would be 'an unbeatable combination'?
Take a guess.
If Obama is the nominee my bet is on Richardson as his Veep of choice. If Clinton gets the nod, I hafl expect to see a Clinton/Edwards or Clinton/Biden ticket.
I don't know, so this really is a guess. O'Riley? Limbaugh?Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
Or going the other side Thom Hartmann or Rhandi Rhodes?
Try again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanuq
Just a little closer to the bone, as it were.
McCain? That would make sense.
Rove?
Still, it ain't gunna happen.
Wait, I seem to remember hearing Hillary saying something about the unbeatable nature of the Clinton/Obama ticket.
No, it was Senor Bill himself.
And Hillary has hinted at it as well.
And Obama certainly isn't dismissing the idea.
It would be a unique twist to this already unique primary. I think it could also give some needed unification within the Democratic Party if they did do this.
McCain would lose against that ticket.
I wonder though if Hillary would take the VP seat if Obama wins the primary.