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Well, not entirely. I have friends with dogs that are nice and I like.
But when riding, I have been chased by ranch dogs so many times it just pisses me off. I had to ride back down the same street after getting attacked by a big white sheep dog today. The thing came damn close to biting me so on the way back I grabbed a nice fist-sized rock to beam it with. Fortunately it must have been otherwise occupied and I didn't see it on pass two. Might be time to start riding with a gun...
That sucks, dude. I've had dogs chase me, too. I turn around and yell "arrrrrrrrrr!" at them. It usually startles them and they stop. If they don't stop I kick them in the face.
I'll bring my bike to PC next week and we'll get vigalante on that bitch.
Yeah another one of those love hate relationships. I hate those chasing dogs that screw with you while riding, but I like dogs otherwise. For some reason, some dogs just don't like the bike. Oh well, that is when you got to use the kick move. Done that move many times on the back roads in West Virginia, lucky for me Colorado hasn't been as bad.
pepper spray
It's a big problem for me, riding in farm country up here. Many unleashed dogs, and fawgetabowtit when 2 are together egging each other on. First defense is to start talking and shouting real loud, so it knows you're an adult male. "NO NO" a few times keeps 95% of them at bay, but I'm seriously considering mace. (the mace would be handy for some drivers, too, but that's another thread)
Actually had an owner say to me after he called his trash dawg off of me and I'm staring him down - "what'sa matta, man, you looked scared." God, I wanted to stomp on that mofo's face, but, of course, his dog was at his side.
Be careful mace and pepper spray are considered assault in NY. I don't know about other states but until the dog actually bites you can't use it here.
Remember, there's no bad dogs, just bad owners. The dogs don't know any better.
Regardless, I have a few stains in my shorts from a few encounters. I don't really ride in an area where loose agressive dogs are a problem right now, but if I did, pepper spray would be my solution.
My old man was doing about 25-30 MPH on his road bike when this LCD (Little Crappy Dog) bolted out in front of em and tried to attack em, caused him to flip over the handle bars and put him in the hospital. Totatlly destroyed his helmet, i think they pressed some sort of charges against the dogs owners.
"Hey fido, wanna come on a bike ride? Wanna crap in the middle of the trail? good dog!"Quote:
Originally Posted by scoober
Nice ideas! Mmmmm...pepper spray. I like my friends' dogs but bad owners can ruin a mutt.
When our office was in rural Heber and I'd go on lunch rides around there, nasty dogs were a BIG problem; didn't really expect it riding around Park City area though. Lame.
" Pepper spray? What's that, officer? Why, no, I don't carry anything like that, just a cliff bar and a cell. I mean, look at me, I just have a thin layer of lycra over this flesh and bone. But, jeez, that dog had really big teeth. Seemed really mad at me. I coulda sworn I heard the owner telling him to GET HIM. yup, happy to be talkin' to you without any bleeding occuring. Scared the bejeezuz out of me, though....."Quote:
Originally Posted by gravitylover
pepper spray containers are small and lose themselves easily in the fields/woods.
is the dog going to go home and tell his owner ? :biggrin: if the owner is within sight range i wouldnt use it until attacked or just before anyway...the nature of a dog attack is such that pepper spray will likely get in your eyes too. Preventative use would be the best in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by gravitylover
I believe there are MOSTLY bad owners, but that there is no doubt about some breeds being predisposed to violent behavior. I've been attacked twice, once while training for track and once while riding my bike....both attacks from behind, both by rots...fucking rots. Both resulted in police reports, and one involved court. Seems that it was the THIRD time this particular rot at attacked a young kid. You don't hear about many golden retriever or basset hound attacks....
as for losing your pepper spray - get the bear spray and instead of attaching to your belt, attach to bike frame with velcro straps...those bear sprays have better range anyway
where does one aquire this "bear spray" ?
google is your friendQuote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
any outfitter shop in the rockies also usually carries some form of it. Garts, fly fishing stores, ACE hardware has key chain versions
oh yeah, fuck you, fido
http://www.counterassault.com/Bear_Deterrent/Photo2.jpg
A grizzly would just grab that shit and season you with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benny Profane
The guy has a gun over his shoulder and is carrying bear spray to protect himself. Some people. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by scoober
bullshit. There are dogs out there that are just assholes end of story.
I can see by your avatar that you've passed sentence. :D
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Originally Posted by LaramieSkiBum
I don't think you can get a small enough bottle/can of bear spray to comfortably carry with you on your bike.
Lots of mountain bikers carry it here. You get a holster and mount it on the frame somewhere convenient. I know lots of people who had bear encounters but I don't know anyone who had the chance to use the bear spray yet, things simply happen too quick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baja216
Do you know of any online links where I could find the stuff? I'm stuck here in the midwest and would love to have some onboard. When my wife and parents visited my brother in Cody WY I asked them to look and the only stuff they found was in a small fire extinguisher form factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferniefreeheels
I've seen the dog pepper spray for bikes but not the bear spray. Am I to believe that the bear spray is stronger than the dog spray? I would assume so.
Thanks for the help!
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Originally Posted by gravitylover
When I used to ride alot I used to carry paracord just for emergencies....
And to tie dogs to the nearest tree out of the road and call animal control.
Ahhh the number of fines people have received because of me. :biggrin:
So I just had to share...
I'm working around the hills above the lake, and hook up with a dude and his wife. The wife is a little slow, so I strike up a conversation with dude on very cool 9 year old Trek OCLV.
"Hey, ever got bitten by a dog up here?"
"Yup, got a scar to prove it."
"No shit"
"Yeah, two of them, the larger one got me."
"Was the owner there?"
"Nah, just a few kids. One pulled him off, but the younger one said "hey, that's the third one this year!"
I thought that was amazingly funny.
That these will not work on a truly determined dog.
Many of the clients whom I train with in regards to serious PP work will ask me to test their dog's will to stay in a fight or engage under the most dificult of situations imaginable.
To that end, we do not physically beat the dogs, but use as much "soft opposition as we can... ie, cardboard boxes, foam bats, split bamboo sticks, firemarms firing blanks, water oppostion...
I have use pepper/ capsaicin spray to test a dog's reactions several times. Mind you, as this point, these dogs were all mature, driven animals whom had several years of training behind them.
In the group of dogs that I used sprays on, I have not had one dog not engage the decoy, if the spray was fired before fighting contact was made, nor one dog break engagement, when the spray was used when the dog was already in hold... In fact, especially when used once a dog is already in holds with someone, I have found the spray usually increases their fight drive, and many of the dogs hit tend to counter against the spray (Get a deeper grip).
All to say that, while perhaps useful against the typical curs and other loose dogs one is likely to come across, it should not be viewed as a tool which will be useful against every dog.