Shiffrin

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Originally Posted by ~mikey b

you guys are fucking hilarious


I’ll never understand middle aged men (like me) nitpicking young athletes’ lives

none of you - nor I - really know a thing about her

nor do we really know anything about any of our movie music sports heroes

I guess really it does no harm but I just don’t get it

look back at MTT’s post from her first win


that woman is a fkn legend - she is, in my opinion, an actual role model for people

I don’t get into celebrity worship much but I like Mikaela

I dunno - just seems silly for us to blather on about what she should or could or might to






I mean really - you’re speculating about a summer birth?

get a fucking life

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Originally Posted by ~mikey b

you guys are fucking hilarious


I’ll never understand middle aged men (like me) nitpicking young athletes’ lives

none of you - nor I - really know a thing about her

nor do we really know anything about any of our movie music sports heroes

I guess really it does no harm but I just don’t get it

look back at MTT’s post from her first win


that woman is a fkn legend - she is, in my opinion, an actual role model for people

I don’t get into celebrity worship much but I like Mikaela

I dunno - just seems silly for us to blather on about what she should or could or might to






I mean really - you’re speculating about a summer birth?

get a fucking life

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I don't have any idea when she'll choose to move on, but based on the comments she has made publicly, I fully expect it to be based on when she feels like she's had enough of the toll her level of preparation and competition takes on her life (and especially on her body), as opposed to being driven to chase results or numbers like Vonn. Again, based on her public comments, I expect that's she's keenly aware of the toll staying in the game took on Vonn and some of the other racers who kept going until they couldn't, and I would expect that her reaction to being told by medical staff that continuing to compete might risk her ability to walk in the future would be different than Vonn's.

Again, that's based solely on public comments and public coverage of Vonn's career. I'm 100% sure I don't have the whole story on either and that Shifrin is well aware that anything she says in public will be thoroughly analyzed in the press, on the Internet, and at the bar.

I do hope that she gets the chance to make that decision on her own terms and isn't pushed into it by outside forces, especially injury.

I'm curious how many wins Holdener (and Vlhova) would have if Shiffrin didn't exist (ie, how many times have they finished second to her).

You^^^ can look at the FIS records and set up a spreadsheet that would tell you that.
Reasign the globes as well.
They did it for Lance

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Originally Posted by Danno

I'm curious how many wins Holdener (and Vlhova) would have if Shiffrin didn't exist (ie, how many times have they finished second to her).

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if you go back to MS’s first few years, should probably add Frida Hansdotter to that list. I seem to remember her finishing second a bunch

Start list for Mar 13th downhill training released for finals in Andorra.

Breezy 4th and Shiffrin 6th

Shiffrin is on record to skip the DH, so this is probably training for SG. She is Scheduled to race SL, GS, and SG.

"It's pretty hard to describe -- and it's not over yet, which is even more ridiculous," said Shiffrin

From ESPN article. https://www.espn.com/olympics/skiing...ld-cup-victory

Amazing!

Her coach should have stuck with her through the end of the season to be part of this historic moment instead of leaving in a huff. Dude blew it IMO. Oh well.

Apparently the relationship between E. Shiffrin and Mike Day has been tenuous at best for a loooong time. It's not surprising once he got the word he was done he left.

DNS for DH training. No fault in that. It’s been a season of greatness. Perfectly acceptable to play it conservative at the end.

NYTimes article with some good quotes:

“Avoiding injuries is at least 80 percent skill,” said Ted Ligety. “People who fall generally do it a lot because they take too many risks and don’t have the technical skills to get out of trouble they get into. The one thing Mikaela has in excess is technical skills. She doesn’t put herself in risky positions and when she makes a rare mistake she’s so good technically she escapes without a bad fall.”

“She rarely skis at 100 percent of what she’s capable of doing, more like 80 percent,” Eileen said. “She’s very calculated that way and always has been.”

Or as Mikaela said “I never want to be surprised on skis”

Mikaela: “People are always asking me, ‘What’s your secret?’ I want to say: ‘Isn’t it obvious? It’s my mom.’”

As a junior, rather than travel, Shiffrin stayed at her home hill where she would get in numerous practice runs rather than two isolated runs at a faraway race, a choice that stressed skill development over setting performance-based goals. Still, when she did race, Mikaela won big and her renown spread nationally. But the Shiffrins evangelized normalcy.

“These top-level coaches would tell me that Mikaela was just ripping up a racecourse,” Jeff Shiffrin said in 2013 as he sat in his Colorado home. “And I would say: ‘Yeah, I agree, but she’s just 9 years old.’ And they’d say, ‘What are your plans for her?’“And I’d answer: ‘Plans? Well, tomorrow she’s trying out for a part as an angel in the school Christmas play.’”

“I can go out and be more social,” Shiffrin answered. “But I want to be home by 9:30 to 10. I can’t function unless I get a minimum of eight hours of sleep.”

She does binge watch her favorite television shows. In 2017, she said with a laugh: “The most exciting thing of my week might be when the new ‘Madam Secretary’ episode comes out.”

For two years, Shiffrin has been dating the Norwegian skier Aleksander Aamodt Kilde, a two-time Olympic medalist. They are ski racing’s power couple, with self-imposed curfews.

“A healthy distraction,” Eileen called the relationship.

“We talk every night,” Mikaela said, “but we say good night early because there’s so much to do the next day.” Beach vacations will wait until late spring.

Her primary gym is the Westin hotel near her home in Edwards, Colo

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/11/s...smid=url-share

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Originally Posted by Hood26

DNS for DH training. No fault in that. It’s been a season of greatness. Perfectly acceptable to play it conservative at the end.

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I would stop racing DH and SG if I were her. She's proved she can win those events if she wants to. I rather stay healthy, and crush SL and GS for years to come, than risk permanently fucking yourself up. No different than Steph Curry resting on a back to back, or an Tom Brady refusing to run outside the pocket. Injury prevention. And she can still win overall just racing tech events. Maybe only enter DH and SG races for cupcake hills (like Lake Louise) and the Olympics. She kind of already does this, and I expect even less speed events going forward now that she's broken Stenmark's record.

new coach

https://usskiandsnowboard.org/news/h...hA6mv2DJBX67W0

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Originally Posted by altasnob

I would stop racing DH and SG if I were her. She's proved she can win those events if she wants to. I rather stay healthy, and crush SL and GS for years to come, than risk permanently fucking yourself up. No different than Steph Curry resting on a back to back, or an Tom Brady refusing to run outside the pocket. Injury prevention. And she can still win overall just racing tech events. Maybe only enter DH and SG races for cupcake hills (like Lake Louise) and the Olympics. She kind of already does this, and I expect even less speed events going forward now that she's broken Stenmark's record.

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Good to know that you have such insight into her racing schedule, and that she was just doing speed events while she chased Stenmark.

Nothing I have ever read about her indicates to me that she was actually "chasing Stenmark," let alone that she was racing speed events to do so. In fact, given that she doesn't win speed events nearly as often as the technical ones, that would be a pretty stupid strategy. I'm glad she doesn't get her race scheduling advice from you.

I don't pretend to have any special insight. This is just internet musings. But she was clearly raised a tech skier (like most not from the West), and that has been her specialty. Her first WC speed events were Lake Louise in 2016 five years after her first WC start in 2011. I think she enters speed events because she has shown that she can win those. But not at the same dominant clip as tech events. And she selectively enters speed events for training/burnout purposes, but also seems to focus on the "easier" courses where injury is less likely. This isn't a critique. It's smart. One has to wonder how many wins in speed events Marcel Hirscher would have had if he raced speed events too. Although there are less cupcake DH courses on the men's circuit and he probably would have wrecked himself.

I don't care who you are, speed events are scary as fuck. You have to be slightly psychotic to excel long term at speed events. Look at Lindsey Vonn, and all her injuries, and her messed up personal life. Same for Picaboo Street and Bill Johnson. You have to like the abuse. I have no doubt Shiffrin has the physical and mental abilities to dominate speed events as she does tech. But she seems to be too rational a thinker to ever focus on speed events.

Or maybe she just likes to make more turns.

The US coach I met 10 or so years ago told me, "just wait til you see her ski DH. She will dominate that discipline if she chooses"

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“I never want to be surprised on skis”

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Words to live by.

GOAT

No question. She. Is. Awesome.

Nice little interview on NPR - https://www.npr.org/2023/03/11/11627...-cup-race-wins

I enjoyed how she deflected the GOAT question by talking about literal baby goats. If only everyone were so humble with success.

Strong second run to secure a podium. 137th of career tying Vonn for the all time record.

88!

Shiffrin just reset (as she says) the GS wins record for women with 21 and most podiums. There was another record too, but I missed the details.

It’s amusing to watch the awards ceremonies as Shiffrin guides the newest podium placers through all the steps. “Ok, yes we are excited, but now we look at that camera. Ok now we walk over here.”

That’s a wrap. What the hell am I going to do now when I can’t sleep on a weekend morning?

Gooooooo! Mikaela!

shiffrin-fastest-andorra-season-finalel

The post race interview between Kilde and Shiffrin was awkward to watch! I wasn't sure what was happening.

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