Maggot snowmobile thread

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Originally Posted by RockinB

Late to the game with this but I ordered one of these up for my sled and couldn't be happier. Thanks for the heads up for whoever posted it. I live south of the border but picked it up on a trip north. We looked into shipping and it was a bit steep.

Dustin is the man. He went way out of his way to drop it off at the hotel I would be staying at. He was super good to work with and I can't say enough good about the transaction.

The rack looks similar to a CFR rack and the bungee system works great. I finally got around to testing everything properly last weekend and was pleased with it. I have used a Mopros rack previously and the bungee system on this rack is every bit as quick, if not quicker to secure things. Less moving parts that are much cheaper to replace if needed compared to the ladder strap setups.

Just wanted to give a heads up about them in case anyone is in the market.

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Very happy with mine as well. Had to shave a bit off the inside of the mounts to fit a pair of skis together but otherwise it works great. Even fits a set of misery slippers (one each side) for when the activity requires it. Bungees lose a bit of elasticity below -15C, but that is to be expected.

Have a hut trip coming up at the end of next month. Sledding in. Ordered some Cfr tunnel stiffeners (their “blades”) and a hitch bumper to tow in a toboggan. Figured the stiffeners will be a good idea with a rack in general and now for towing as well. A few questions:

Can I install the stiffeners outside and still fit a rear bumper? Would you install using the rivets provided or SS bolts?

What do people use for toboggan runners? Need to install something on mine and I’ve read about people using strips of fibreglass or similar or aluminum runners (presumably just 1”x1”angle bolted to the bottom and tapered at the front to promote running... cause they’re runners, ya know?). Any recommendations/experiences that people can lay on me?

Stiffeners can go inside or out side the tunnel. The rivets are pretty bomb proof and slick. No need to take them off once they are on, so I wouldn't worry about bolts.

Toboggan runners are not really necessary, with the exception of protecting the toboggan from gravel / paved surfaces. Most track just fine without, unless u don't have a solid hitch.

Recommendation bump,

What are most people using for two up skiing off groomed trails?

Plan A. Ride one pull one on groomed road. Then, Side by side sled to ski zone, or monkey on my back style, going to try both. Not sure what will be best. Norona seems to side by side, others monkey style? Or I forget what they called it.

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Originally Posted by bobbuilds

Recommendation bump,

What are most people using for two up skiing off groomed trails?

Plan A. Ride one pull one on groomed road. Then, Side by side sled to ski zone, or monkey on my back style, going to try both. Not sure what will be best. Norona seems to side by side, others monkey style? Or I forget what they called it.

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Canadian - side by side

Alaskan - cozy up against the bars

American - solo. Nobody wants to get on your loud ass Artic Cat anyway

If you are evenly weighted Canadian is best. If one weighs a lot more than the other than Alaskan works better for the long haul out to your spot.

'Canadian' style is the most effective for anything besides a groomed trail.

Unless you will be regularly accessing via a groomed trail, two up seat sleds are not the answer. Towing someone in is extremely tiresome for the guy getting pulled

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Originally Posted by eldereldo

I ride An AC and it if you get a 2014 plus it is probably the most reliable sled you can own. The 800 engine had been bullet proof since the M8 days, but the 2012 and 2013 has clutch issues which were fixed with 2014. There was an update available so if the machine you are looking at has had it done it would be fine. As far as riding goes the 2016+ has a new front end and skid that makes a lot of difference in sidehilling and not trenching. The other thing Cats need is for the stock skis to be replaced, they are to narrow and trail oriented.

Final, while I think my Cat is great, if you don’t have the mechanical ability or space to work on your own sled, you might want to get a Skidoo as there is a dealer in Pemberton and another in Squamish, no other dealers in the S2S so you are looking at driving to Vancouver for service, or using an independent shop. Probably 90% of the sleds here are doos for that reason. Although their riders will tell you it is because the sled is the best. :FIREdevil

To find the best sled deals look in Alberta kijjii

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Thanks man
Yeah lots of Skidoo's here. One of my buddies was on an cat. He had all his work done at Revolution and was happy with all the work.
Im planning a trip out to castle mountain so ill start trawling ab kijiji too

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Originally Posted by cmcrawfo

'Canadian' style is the most effective for anything besides a groomed trail.

Unless you will be regularly accessing via a groomed trail, two up seat sleds are not the answer. Towing someone in is extremely tiresome for the guy getting pulled

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Is that just because it puts the weight on the machine where it best floats?

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Originally Posted by bbergey

Is that just because it puts the weight on the machine where it best floats?

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Dam it, I am skier! Not a scientist.

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Originally Posted by cmcrawfo

Dam it, I am skier! Not a scientist.

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I’ll see if Elon Musk knows

Get on, hold on, hit the go button. You'll figure out what works.

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This thread should be renamed “snowmobiles used to ski for newbies”

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Originally Posted by teamdirt

This thread should be renamed “snowmobiles used to ski for newbies”

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Should just default answers to "read back through from start to finish" all answers area there. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...e94750fb0d.jpg

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Thanks. Going out this weekend, we’ll see how it goes. We’ve got a trail sled, demoing a mountain sled, and some good snow. Looks like mountain sleds are what I’m seeing people on, 800’s I’m definitely new to sled skiing.

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Originally Posted by RockinB

Late to the game with this but I ordered one of these up for my sled and couldn't be happier. Thanks for the heads up for whoever posted it. I live south of the border but picked it up on a trip north. We looked into shipping and it was a bit steep.

Dustin is the man. He went way out of his way to drop it off at the hotel I would be staying at. He was super good to work with and I can't say enough good about the transaction.

The rack looks similar to a CFR rack and the bungee system works great. I finally got around to testing everything properly last weekend and was pleased with it. I have used a Mopros rack previously and the bungee system on this rack is every bit as quick, if not quicker to secure things. Less moving parts that are much cheaper to replace if needed compared to the ladder strap setups.

Just wanted to give a heads up about them in case anyone is in the market.

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Totally off topic but he just built some skookum rails for me in my new house. Couldn't be happier. It was his first go at rails as well, kid is solid!

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Dam. Those are some beefy rails. Looks like 200+ ? What ya got, like 7" stair on that? Sick brah.

That's on air bnb and open to snowboarders right? They look solid enough.

https://youtu.be/8bzP818YNq0

15cm reported, love it

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Originally Posted by JimLad

https://youtu.be/8bzP818YNq0

15cm reported, love it

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Deeeep!

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Originally Posted by bbergey

Is that just because it puts the weight on the machine where it best floats?

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First if you are riding anything other than a smooth trail, anyone sitting down will have their teeth rattled, or knocked out, second, riding with one person standing on each board allows you to shift your weight on the sled to sidehill or deal with off camber situations.

Sometimes one person sitting in front and holding the center of the bars, and the other person steering by standing behind and reaching over is all you can do, we rode a tight winding trail this last weekend and anything else would have wiped you off the side of the sled, as it was one of the boards didnt make it through unscathed and had a binding almost ripped off.

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Originally Posted by eldereldo

First if you are riding anything other than a smooth trail, anyone sitting down will have their teeth rattled, or knocked out, second, riding with one person standing on each board allows you to shift your weight on the sled to sidehill or deal with off camber situations.

Sometimes one person sitting in front and holding the center of the bars, and the other person steering by standing behind and reaching over is all you can do, we rode a tight winding trail this last weekend and anything else would have wiped you off the side of the sled, as it was one of the boards didnt make it through unscathed and had a binding almost ripped off.

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I don't know - I'm a complete newb when it comes to both sledding and sled/skiing, but with only 3 days of experience on my new-to-me 2010 Yami supercharged Nytro, my first sled/ski trip wasnt that bad.

I made two ~7 mile one-way trips, each with a knuckle dragger in tow and a passenger with skis 'Alaska' style + gear / beer / bags on hard packed / wind buffed / sastrugi / powder drifts and they were all fine. One of the boarders event pretended he was Mikaela on a slalom course most of the way in. Both passengers were comfortable...all loved not having to skin 7 miles!

While the Nytro isnt a mountain sled per se, i dont think the extra ~100lbs or a supercharger made a difference or made it more comfortable or easier.

The only issue was the gear bags bungied to the rear gear rack seemed to raise the center of gravity, so on off camber trail sections, i thought we would tip. I likely need to do some fine tuning of the suspension pressures or just shut up and learn to ride.

Lessons learned -
get a real ski rack (both skiers kept skis between my and their lap)
get hand/wind deflectors! It was somewhere around -15 degrees at the trailhead.
We used a water ski rope/handle, but next time will add a beefy mountain bike tube to soak up some of the jerking.

If this is as bad as it gets, i really overthought the difficulty of sled assisted 'hut trips'.

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Awesome glad you had fun. Climbing harness for towing with a simple loop on the rope for a quick let go is nice too.

Went out today and the snow was too nice so we just rooped all day. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...65521e734d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8ac96838c6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...06d4d880fe.jpg

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Thanks - Will try that harness idea. Makes more sense. Your day looks way more fun! Where is that?

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Originally Posted by eldereldo

First if you are riding anything other than a smooth trail, anyone sitting down will have their teeth rattled, or knocked out, second, riding with one person standing on each board allows you to shift your weight on the sled to sidehill or deal with off camber situations.

Sometimes one person sitting in front and holding the center of the bars, and the other person steering by standing behind and reaching over is all you can do, we rode a tight winding trail this last weekend and anything else would have wiped you off the side of the sled, as it was one of the boards didnt make it through unscathed and had a binding almost ripped off.

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Sidehilling - I see how that would work well side by side!