No shim. The toe is machined differently to take the ramp from 11mm to 7.5mmQuote:
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No shim. The toe is machined differently to take the ramp from 11mm to 7.5mmQuote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
Like, whoa, dude!Quote:
Originally Posted by cydwhit
Aren't your Vipecs on Wizard blades? We are moving rapidly toward the gucci plateau of freetourblading.Quote:
Originally Posted by cydwhit
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Originally Posted by jashpash
Ah, right on. Good to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melee
FYI the 190 is 118 underfootQuote:
Originally Posted by jashpash
The 184 is 116
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Any thoughts on a commander 98 length?
Normally I’m a longest length kind of guy, but considering I would only ski hard snow with these and they’re directional with that -10 mount I’m not sure I would gain much on a 188 vs 182.
I’m 6,1, 170lbs
Go 188....I’m 6’1 200lb.......and they are a very good ski/length not an issue.
I beg to differ. The voyager does NOT ski like a kingpin or any other binding with an alpine style heel. I have about 14 days on voyagers, probably 40 on kingpins, and two on a friend's tectons.Quote:
Originally Posted by cydwhit
It is, however, the most precise pin binding I have ever skied. Much better power transfer in the heel than alpinist or rad 2 (wayyyy more than a rad 1, tlt or anything with heel gap AND a floating heel).
I mounted it on a dwt as a do it all set up - for this purpose they are quite excellent. Love the power to weight ratio. I've skied them on refrozed coral reef, powder, and now january drought corn. Really an excellent touring binding.
i have lighter bindings and heavier bindings but if i had to have one binding, it would be the voyager
New Deathwishes got mounted today with Shifts. They'll be a resort and side country ski. Here they are next to my DWTs.
I'm so stoked to ski them.
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I went out on my friend's voyager setup the other day and completely agree. It's noticeably different than Tectons, which I have close to 100 days on with three different setups (and another 30 or so on Kingpins). And yeah, it's all about the heel. However, it's an awesome binding and I'd absolutely recommend it! Everything is a compromise.Quote:
Originally Posted by sruffian
My next touring setup - going extra light - will probably include a voyager.
Just to be clear. The alpine style heel of the kingpin/tecton is SUPERIOR in your opinion? That’s what you’re saying?Quote:
Originally Posted by TahoeJ
Lightweight, engaged. Sturdy, blah blah voyager is good, but a tecton it is not.
Am I reading this correctly?
An alpine heel is always going to ski better than any tech heel. Of all of the tech heels I have skied the voyager is the best. It's not even the same ballpark comparing a shift or tecton to a voyager. Different classes of gear...
Yeah but it’s really good and I will still get one. The difference is slightly noticeable (on firmer snow but not softer snow, which is key).Quote:
Originally Posted by SupreChicken
Just finished up two days on my new Deathwishes.
Me- 195 lbs, ok skier on 190 cm Deathwish.
They are everything I was hoping for- a slightly stiffer, slightly more damp DWT.
I think what really impressed me is their ability to carve and hold and edge and also pivot super easily, even on hard snow. That is something I've never experienced before on any skis other than the DW/DWT. It makes them extremely maneuverable in tight places deposite their 190 cm length. Lean them over and they carve super well, stay in a neutral stance and they pivot side to side so ealisy.
They can make any turn shape that I want. The flex is stiff enough to make GS turns, but I never feel like I hit a wall in flexing them. In my other favorite skis (Rustler 11s) it is easy to flex them into any turn down to about slalom size. The Deathwish can be easily flexed into tighter than slalom turns. Maybe it is the triple camber, maybe it is the tip/tail rocker hooking up, I'm not really sure but I really, really like it.
I'm also really happy with the mount point. I went on the line on both skis and I get really good floatation and the tails don't feel too big because of the tail rocker.
In general, I'd describe them as fun and intuitive.
I'm in love with the balance between dampness and energy of my Rustler 11s. It'll be interesting to ski them back to back with the slightly more surfy Deathwish on pow days.
For day after a storm with cut up pow, I think I already know that I'd rather play on my Deathwishes- bouncing between mounds of crud and bouncing/slarving/surfing my way through little terrain features.
^^^^sounds like my next ski....as my 2nd installment in my Moment quiver.
Do it! they are awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by BC.
Anyone on the new Commander 98? I’m thinking of pairing them with my Wildcat 108s as a firm + charger ski
I’m on em - review upcoming, but just buy em. Fwiw, although Moment has stumbled with renaming skis prior, these are a completely new ski & not the CMD of the past 2 seasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by thejongiest
Going out on a limb here, but my 2021 CMD 98s in a 176 are more baller than my 2020 194 CMD 108. Yes, they FKNA nailed this ski. Gone are the compromise tendencies for the Commander to *sneak* into carver mode. New ones are the fall line dousers & tail is pure gold.
Had both out over the past few days of 18-20” sticky to crud & can assert the above with good confidence.
I’m on them too....Irip will probably write a better detailed specific review...but I have been totally impressed with the C98. I am so glad I got them this past fall....they are doing everything I need them to do so far this year (staying local so far in NEPA/ElkMtn.)....I believe the The C98 will be perfect when I’m allowed to get back up in VT...Quote:
Originally Posted by thejongiest
I’m 6’1 200lbs. on the 188 and the length is perfect. I have Pivot 18’s on them.....For being a “charger”, I’m really impressed how I can really make any type of turn needed...they turn on a dime...slarve, carve, slip, tip, short, long....you name it. I cannot wait to get them in trees...I think they will be outstanding in tight spaces...
I usually put 1/3’s on all my skis.....but these are 1/1....but they ski so well....I have kept them at 1/1 for now. I don’t want to muck them up. (Just sharpened the 1/1 up last night....and the skis just have a great “feel” to them.). I wax the hell out of my skis...so these have had several cycles of Toko Red/blue so far...and these babies really “glide”.
As an EC/West trip guy..I needed a sub100 ski...and I’m so glad I went this route...These C98’s ski so well...I think I’m trying the DW next. (Oh boy...I think my Katanas might end up on my wall.....lol)
Hope that helps....there is no need to hesitate. The C98 is a “great ski”.
New 162 Bella's (16th pair of Moments in the family) for our 11 yo Granddaughter, she loves them.Attachment 358470
I usually wait for more solid reviews to come out on new stuff but I've got some Voyagers on the way. Will be my first tech binding but I figured I might as well go for the (alleged) creme de la creme now that I'm moving from Shifts to something for touring exclusively.
Look up reviews and info for the ATK FR14 which is the Voyager minus the redesign toe that decreases ramp angle.Quote:
Originally Posted by eSock
PSA: Looks like a nice set of Jag Sharks for sale in the Santa Cruz area. Not mine. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/spo...262800357.html
Yeah that certainly helped.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoSlowGoFar
Also FedEx just dropped them off 5 minutes ago. Now to get the skis....
I'm all for the abolition of the death penalty but that degree of keyword stuffing might make me reconsider.Quote:
Originally Posted by chickenmonkey
Cool skis though.