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Meh. 991 sounds alright from the videos I've seen. Hard to tell from videos, probably sounds better in person. The guy who lives across from my parents place has a 2010 911 GT3 and it sounds god awful. I really hope it's an anomaly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bromontana
Hey BD, among the people you know personally, are there any amateur drivers who you think would be capable of really driving a 993 GT2? No idea what the new ones are like, but the air cooled ones have always just seemed insane.
While we're on the subject of homicidal 911's, this is always worth a re-post:
Considering that a 993 GT2 costs a few million I wouldnt trust anyone to drive one.Quote:
Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw
And to the 911 exhaust comment:
Shake yourself. Seriously.
If you can't appreciate the sound of a flat 6 (in my personal opinion, a N/A 996/997 especially) there's something wrong with you. And I'm sorry.
And bless your heart.
A few guys I know are hard core track guys. GT4 Clubsports and 991 Cup cars. Tracking their 918s even.
I imagine they could do well in a 993 GT2, but like Bmills said, they cost too much to track now. Those cars were built to meet homologation requirements for actual GT2 racing. The 996 GT2 & 997 GT2/RS were just special road cars, and not built for race requirements.
Only 50 993 GT2s exist with left hand drive. 7 with right.
http://fcollect.com/images/porsche-993-gt2-2.jpg drool (it almost looks like a toned down RWB car)
Flying to LA tomorrow to go check out a Carrera GT. I am going to be around some awesome cars.
My brother raced one of his GT3s in the 2007 Rolex 24 Hours of Daytona race (he was invited based upon his success on the various nonprofessional racing circuits,and the GT3 was specially equipped, I guess, but not sure). Anyway, as great as the GT3s are, he remembers the pros, driving their screaming DP cars, complaining about having to slow down for the slower GT3s in front of them. They would pass one, then there would be another one to slow down for. Lol. The GT3s were no match for the Daytona Prototypes in that track, but of course they weren't really racing each other anyway. I really can't see a GT3 having any chance against a DP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beer Drinker
And yeah...Los Angeles is like a haven for supercars!! Every time I've been there I've always been floored by the number of lambos and Ferraris...and now who knows? Listers, Koenigs(sp). Should be a fun time!
That said, the DPs themselves have been detuned from what they could be and what the track would allow. The tranny ratios set up specifically for that track make them slower off the mark... and evidently detuning has been mandated by an organization that I think misinterpreted what the race fans want. And maybe track insurance parameters cone into play? Although that would be hard to believe considering that the Rolex program is so well funded. The technology is there to have 1200, even 1600 HP cars with nutzoid steering and suspension systems. So why the mandates? The pro circuits already are ones so expensive that they can really only be funded by corporations or billionaires, so it can't be that they are trying somehow to be inclusionary to new teams (although that is indeed a worthy cause), as that horse won't be coming back into the barn. So why not negate the cubic inch and horsepower limits, focus on a chassis and steering/suspension that will handle nearly tripling the horsepower, and have a RACE?
Fify.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beer Drinker
Sweet Ford. Under 10k? At least you know you won't over pay by more than $9999.98.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dromontana
Saw one today, they've aged well imo. Not sure how reliable they are but quick & good looking.
Those attributes fit well with the rest of the car... you can drive it to the junk yard real fast and take a picture of it before you leave it there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bromontana
So this has been the toughest two days in a long time. I'm in Atlanta for business meetings/sales training at the Best Western Plus Airport East. Directly across the street is the Porsche Experience Center and I couldn't even get over there while the sun was up and millions of dollars worth of cars were running around their private track and I'm flying out just after sunrise tomorrow morning. There's an exterior elevator with windows and I could see all the cars whipping around and it just made me hurt inside. Such a cool place....
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Originally Posted by Beer Drinker
Just give me all 3 and I'll go away quietly.Quote:
Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw
I promise.
Don't forget the rotating museum collection and excellent restaurant overlooking the track.Quote:
Originally Posted by gravitylover
It's far and away the classiest place on earth south of downtown. And also heaven. So both.
Alfa Tipo 33 Stradale
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Originally Posted by Beer Drinker
Now I have to go back to Atlanta just to check the place out. All I did was go from the airport to the hotel where the meeting was and to a steakhouse a few blocks away so I didn't see the place at all. Well at least now I have an actual reason to go there again.Quote:
Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
Jesus Christ ... wasn't that like jaguars darkest days?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dromontana
Those are Ford Taurus's with slightly better sheet metal. Not a proud moment for Jag.
You're thinking of the Jaguar X-Type which was shared the Ford Contour/Mondeo. The XJ pictured above is all Jaguar. Holds up well IMO.
I had one of the last xj12s and it was a fantastic car. Smooth as silk and fast. Only got 12mpg though. Still miss it sometimesQuote:
Originally Posted by Mazderati
I always liked the look of the XJ but would never, ever consider owning one. I'm curious about the new XE though, seems Jag has rounded a corner and it might be worth a look vs another 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazderati
Then again, like you mentioned, I remember renting a brand new X-Type for an entire week and being completely underwhelmed and frustrated with that rebadged Ford Contour piece of shit.
+1, and it literally ruined Jag in 09 when they got rid of it, and went the way of Lexus, with updated styling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazderati
That is also a R model.
Always been intrigued by the USA V8 conversions in the old XJ bodies. Seems like it could be the best of both worlds for a daily driver.
That's a Scaglione.....how can it not be gorgeous?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beer Drinker
If not for the telltale Alfa Romeo symbol on the grill, at first glance I would swear it was the inimitable Ferrari 330 P4 (which is, looking at that photo, not as inimitable as I'd perhaps thought ;) ). I'm not sure which came out first...the AR Tipo 33 or the P4...but both are beautifully fluid and timeless.