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I guess it's purely preferential, or physiological. I was touring almost exclusively on cast w/ lupos earlier this year, which is a very flat/upright combo--i love it.
The first time I skied my setup with Dynafit verticals and mercurys this year I almost couldn't figure it out, so hard to get pressure on the front of the skis. Lupos + verticals isn't too bad, but I think I'll shim those toes this summer.
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The verticals and speed radicals have an insane amount of ramp angle, I can’t stand it. Here’s a handy chart for angles: https://skimo.co/pin-heightsQuote:
Originally Posted by waveshello
Good place for this question; I'm a touring noob. Does anyone feel strongly about brakes or leashes? I have MTN Pures with no brake on Corvus Freebird that I got off another mag as a starter pack. Lol.
To me it depends on how much you lose skis. As a fairly conservative bc skier I'm fine with leashes as long as they've got a breakable "fuse" in them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuntmonkey
184cm DPS Lotus 124 Tour1s with SuperRadicals
184cm Wailer 99s in Pure2 with Speed Radicals.
It's funny that my setup that is 25mm wider is also my lighter setup but my god those are a nice mid winter ski! I got them midway through the winter and am pumped to get some more miles on them this year.
Toes are shimmed on the SpeedRads and the heels of the SuperRads have a B&D adjustment plate so pin deltas are about the same and I have an easy time switching between skis.Attachment 429098
haha have you met the internet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuntmonkey
For me, same answer as John_B. I have b&d leashes that are long enough to leave connected to my boots during exposed transitions or sketchy bootpacks. I like that, and probably wouldn't want short leashes. But also brakes would be fine. On brakeless MTNs specifically, you can decrease the toe-heel delta by losing the plastic piece under the heel. I also like that, but it's another strong opinion topic.
The wife's "touring-50/50" quiver coming out of last spring. 98's up to 138's, and good coverage in between. I think the total is 3.228 metric fuck tons of carbon between them. Some set for both Vipecs and alpine clamps. I'm rolling on BMT 94's and 109's and though I was the shit...now we all know who's boss. Out of control I say! However, several of these will be on the chopping block this fall, and some of the super cool ones at that.
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Protest with Vipecs, like your style :cool:
I have the Machine and the white 138s, and I thought I was going overboard...g'dddaamn! Sick quiver though!
Out of curiosity, where did your wife mount those two planks? ATL or forward?
The fat Machine? Thoughts on how this works for touring? Considering a pair to replace my Pescado’s.
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Originally Posted by Pins and Skins
What a glorious quiver. How well do the Machines and BMT122 hold up in the resort? I have my eyes on some cheap ones I'd just mount with an alpine clamp.
Indeed, the fat Machines. Like most of you guys know, there are several sites offering them cheap right now, so I snagged a 178cm pair and will be putting tech bindings on them. Kept it short for more ease and less weight going uphill. Obviously haven't used them yet, but initial thoughts are that it will be a more versatile touring plank than most fatties. They are reverse camber but quite subtly and waaaay less than the 138s so, in theory, should be less work going up and on steep paths/sidehills. Big shovel helps with breaking paths, and they are light. Mine weighed in at around 1816g per stick in the 178 size. Probably could use some more ummphh for on the way down, but if you stick to pow, it should be ok.
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Thats a sick quiver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Thomas
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Mentis 178 quiver killed for plum guides.
Solis 180 quiver killed for plum guides
Ferox 181 quiver killed for plum yaks
Corvus Freebird 183 mounted with m werks kingpins with 2mm shim in heel
Corvus Freebird 188 mounted with demo kingpins
hawt diggity daum SoVTJoey, thats a very sexy line up. what boot(s) do you run with them?
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dynafit pdgs with plum 150s (cant find a crampon attachment for these, if anyone has a spare id be interested) for fitness and hoping for some fast objectives later in the season
findr 94s with zeds for the daily driver and spring skiing
dps pagoda tour 112 rps with plum oazo 8s brand new for the powder
faction dictator 3.0 with shifts that i put together for the resort instead (was going to put downhill bindings but thought id try and see how lugging around 2500g feels).
rossy s7 with ions (replaced by pagodas and dictators for this year, will be selling)
run everything except dictators on atomic backlands (nordica striders for dictators).
stoke for season is rising.
As someone who put shifts on their Billy Goats (and just swapped to Pivots), I can say lugging that weight around ain't much funQuote:
Originally Posted by ktoor
The mid-winter quiver
187 Praxis Protests with Alpinists
191 4FRNT Hojis with ATK-made Moment Voyager 14s
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I’m trying to find a good light boot. The mentis was kinda a splurge. But I use a Lange xt3 tour pro most of the time. The ferox pairs up well with my xt3 130 though.
I just got the new Zipfit GFT. So I’m stoked to try that out. I love the other zipfits I have for my Pink panthers.
What size? If you need a size 25, send me a DM.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoVT Joey
Like F1LT light?Quote:
Originally Posted by SoVT Joey
I’m a 27.5. But I dunno if I can go that light. But saving another 100-200 grams per boot and getting the hoji lock tempts me with the dynafit radical pro. The hoji 130 may be what replaces my xt3 tours next year.
Going to a 1k category boot makes you realize how much energy you've been wasting for years going uphill with overlap boots. Don't get me wrong I have both ZGTP's and the F1LT. But for a lot of tours spending way less effort on the up is so worth it since you can get in more laps/ vert.
I had the langes and technicas and replaced them with the hoji, best decision I've made re boots. 200 g heavier but because of rom, I'm faster uphill.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoVT Joey
Skiing is much better too.
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177 Dynastar Mythic 97 + OG Dynafit Tour Lites, heels on Kreuzspitze adjustment plates, toes on B&D shims.
184 Armada Declivity + KP 13, toes on B&D shims.
184 Dynastar Cham 107 HM + Verticals, toes on B&D shims.
186 K2 Mindbender 116c + CAST
186 4FRNT Renegade + CAST
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I believe this will be the quiver for this year:
- 177 K2 Wayback 96 + Hagan Pure 10
- 177 Dynafit Beast 98 + QK’d for ATK Freeraiders
- 184 K2 Dispatch 110 + Moment Voyagers…yet to get out on these.
The design elements of the dispatch series are pretty intriguing. Curious to hear what you think of them when you do get out
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Wife's resort and slackcountry rig; (Gotamas and Barons)
Wife's current touring rig (DPS Pagoda Tour 100rp with Xenics)
My early season slackcountry rig (Original Mantras and Dukes)
My current slackcountry rig (Mantra M6 and Duke PT)
My first ever skis (Ramer Grand Tour with Salewa bindings)
Ski-to-climb rig (Hagan approach skis and Silvretta Carbon bindings)
Current ski-to-climb rig for use with my Procline boots (Elan Tactix Carbon folding skis with G3 bindings)
Early season touring rig (Manaslu and Dynafits)
Powder lapping touring rig (DPS 112RP Tour 1 and Vipecs)
All around touring and multi-day rig (DPS Wailer 99 Pure Carbon with Plum Guides)
Resort and deep day backcountry rig (DPS 112 RP Pure Carbon w/Dreamtime graphics Vipecs)
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Luv to see everyones tour rigs.
Atomic Backland 85UL, 178 with Helio 200(ATK Haute Route)
Atomic Backland 100, 188, with ATK Crest
Paired with Backland Carbon boots.
Going for light this season. I have fun on the downhill anyway, making the uphill more comfy is the way to go for me.
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Current quiver, covers all my bases.
Moment commander 108 188 w cast. Sidecountry/travel
Moment deathwish tour 190 w atk FR14 - new this year and I’ve spent most my uphill days on it so far. DD touring
Blizzard zero g 95 185 w atk fr14- skimo/big day
Atomic blog 185 w kingpin - first touring sticks from 2012 or so, rock skis now but still fun to noodle around on.
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stunning quiver. those blogs were great too back when i skied them years ago. What's the mount point on those?
Curious where you mounted the CommandersQuote:
Originally Posted by vermontana
-8, +2 from factory rec at the advice of a moment employee. Feel great here, most of my skis have been more playful twins rather than directional and I wanted them to be a bit easier to get sideways and spinQuote:
Originally Posted by eskido
-3 I believe, got them mounted when I was doing a lot more park skiing. Wish they were at -5 or so but they work alright for messin around pre-season. too many holes in them already.Quote:
Originally Posted by oltrepiave
Thought they looked a bit forward for Commanders, I like that a lot! Pretty intrigued by that ski but that recommended mount has kept me away
how do the 0g95 fit into the grand scheme of that quiver?
is there any "life" in them that makes em fun or do you just treat them like a specific tool for certain situations?
Woah tell me about the mount on those DW's that looks a little further back than rec?Quote:
Originally Posted by vermontana
More of the latter now, I got them when I lived in VT where that type of touring ski made a bit more sense than where I live now (CO). They're great for big vert days or when the skis spend more time on the pack than on your feet, but the DW are so much more enjoyable to ski in almost all conditions, even low-tide or variable days with their crazy edge hold.Quote:
Originally Posted by oltrepiave
Hmm they're at rec. Might be the camera angle and uneven floorQuote:
Originally Posted by Huskydoc
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Lithic prototype, 90mm, 30m radius, 1300 grams. Binding toes currently on my nordic skates. For long range post consolidation/springtime stuff.
Blizzard Zero G 105 180cm with Plum Oazo- brand new setup! Can’t wait. Fat mountaineering or mid winter traverses.
Lithic Ramblin Jack 108x180, atk trofeo. All around pow touring.
Lithic Townes 117, Salomon MTN. They’ve become the daily driver for almost all my touring.
Lithic Cohen 118, Salomon MTN. Heavy as hell but fun, floaty and i can never let them go for many reasons.
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Pretty darned happy with my touring lineup now.
I’m about 5’9” and 160. Skiing in BC.
178 Majesty Superwolf w/ Plum Pikas
184 4Frnt Raven w/ Kingpins
179 Moment Deathwish Tour w/ Voyager 12s
I used to ski 180++ for touring skis, but started finding the downsides were outweighed by the stability and speed benefits. I’m starting to really value versatility and maneuverability in my skis, and I think this quiver has me covered for most activities while still being very fun on the down.
A fat flamboyant addition to the touring quiv!
190cm c132
189cm BG108t
186cm BMT94
Woot
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(Plus CASTed pivots on the beloved old 191 BGs and DD 192 MF108)