UPS.
Small box. You should get a shipping notification, or two, from CAST when they're sent.
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No problem. You'll get two emails.
One saying:
Your order 13 is in the mail! The Following items have been shipped:
• 1x Freetour Upgrade Kit
• 1x Alpine AFD Pair
• 1x GripWalk AFD Pair (if you ordered em)
The package is being shipped via UPS to the following address:
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Your tracking number is . You can track your shipment on this page (Hyperlinked).
The second says
XXXX, CAST Touring
Your order has been completed, this is your receipt.
Your order from CAST Touring has been completed. Your order details are shown below. Please save this email as your digital receipt.
Order Details
Order number: 13 Order date: September 24, 2019
Product Price
Freetour Upgrade Kit
Quantity: 1 $340.00
Congratulations on your new Freetour kit! If you would like to complete the package deal, follow this link to pivotbindings.com. If you would like CAST to perform the upgrade on your bindings send them to our shop address, at the bottom of this page, with your name and order number clearly marked on the box.
Alpine AFD Pair
Quantity: 1
• Part of:
Freetour Upgrade Kit $15.00
GripWalk AFD Pair
Quantity: 1
• Part of:
Freetour Upgrade Kit $15.00
Subtotal: $370.00
Shipping: $8.65 via Ground (UPS)
Payment method: Credit Card (Stripe)
Total: $378.65
Billing address
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Shipping address
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Welcome to CAST!
Check your email SVS, just got shipping notice about an hour ago
So stoked, this seems like such a huge upgrade from the OG version. And I didn't even have a beef with that other than continuously bending the toe plates.
If I’m installing the heel bars on a pair of skis already drilled with an FKS heel installed, do I need to remove the heel to accurately lineup the mount point for the new hole for the heel bar?
Anyone know if they can ship by post? Usps to canada post? Couriers(especially ups) get crazy w fees cross border
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Hey nyskirat,
I've mounted both ways successfully. But either way, you'll wanna measure 10 times and drill once.
If you wanna leave the FKS/Pivot heels mounted, just line up and center the riser assembly and clamp it down. Then make sure that the brake retainer clicks into place and properly holds the FKS/Pivot brakes. You'll hear the brake retainer it click into the notch on the backside of the FKS/Pivot brake platform.
Once you've got it all lined up, center punch to mark your holes and drill them the same depth that you would new holes for bindings, glue and mount. If you did it right, you'll know right away. If you didn't, hold your head in your hands and contemplate the decisions that got you there. Best of luck. :)
Nice. Even better. Ill message them. Thanks
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Anybody want to get rid of a cast set up I’m a 295bsl, I’ll take the skis too
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I was going to mount my own fucking bindings, but I am moving into my new house this week and I’m not at all set up to do that right now. My friend is a shop tech so I brought them in to him and he said the 2020 p-18s were missing the internal metal washers. When he called Look to order them they were a little freaked out because they said the toe piece could fail without it, and the are wondering if lots of them were assembled without it. After all, what are the odds of the only pair missing the piece just happens to be a pair getting mounted with Cast? Who knows? Anyway still waiting on replacement parts. If anyone has new p-18s you might want to unscrew the toe piece and look.
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Turns out it was not the washer but the metal baseplate.
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The piece you replace with CAST, the metal base plate is wrong on the 2020 Pivots?
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I highly doubt it
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I assumed he was talking about one of these
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6a4dfa8cf1.jpg
I put mine together last night. I think the washer on the right sticks inside the toepiece with old grease. I didn’t notice it. The one in the middle has to come out to get the spindle off. The square one on the left will either stick with old grease, or fall off while wrangling the spindle out.
Thanks for the pic. Just got some for my cast set up on the way. My base plate is metal. Ill check for the washers now
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I got the previous information from my wife who works at the shop, I had a bottle of red in me when I posted. Went by the shop today but tech was super busy doing boot fittings so I’m still not totally sure what was missing but it was described as a metal shim. I thought it was the horizontal washer but now I’m not so sure. I didn’t take it apart. I’ll check in when I know more. Part has been ordered.
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Post up a pic of that part when you get it, please
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Anyone experience problems with the tech toe not fully engaging due to contact with pedestal(s)?
Well, I had lots of issues presumably due to use of inserts. And that was one of them. The reason was - the toe was not fully locked on pedestal. It was just 1mm away from locking on the pedestal and that resulted into toe not fully engaging. First of all, clean the pedestal and toe fully, secondly - put the toe with force, it should lock in position.
There’s been some chatter about mounting them with inserts - some good some bad. Seems like the inserts really need to be done perfectly and flush to the ski so if it’s not an area of expertise you may want to reconsider.
I’ve thought about it and landed on doing two sets of the toe plates from Cast if I were going to do it - both mounted on both skis. More expensive but easier and takes some of the insert issues out of the equation. The heels? Could probably get two sets of the brake and elevators and then mount one heel for both sets with inserts in each ski. Or buy a second set of heels somewhere (like gear swap here).
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What mtnwriter said. Inserts should be done perfectly. What pissed me off mostly was that I overtightened toe screw shoulders due to inserts not being flush with ski. And that made switching toe units a pain. They were constantly getting stuck so I had to loose screws, then tighten them back. You can search my other reply in this theme where I described other issues. Not sure if they were inserts-related or not.
Thanks for the info. I got a second ski kit, 'problem' is one of the skis are already on inserts. The second skis are from gear swap already drilled with a paper template, which is not optimal. Eyeing them up, it should be ok if I redrill with a jig and the larger diameter insert drill. I have no other option besides inserts really. Will report back on how they turn out, casts are in the post and should arrive soon.
Merry Christmas.
You mught want to do the Thom xxxer combo technique. Remove inserts ez as with Thom tech then marine epoxy and fibreglass pieces in the holes a la xxxer tech and redrill the skis proper for pivot/cast
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If I want to get a cast system to run two separate skis, I’d need inserts correct? I ordered the 2nd ski kit and toe pedestals (to save $$ and I’ll get the tech toes later) as far as I can tell the heel piece has to be permanently mounted to the ski, but you could swap the toe piece between skis. So you’d need either inserts or multiple sets of heels? Having a cast system an p18’s I could run on anything would be 👌
Read the last few pages, but yes, plate and posts (2nd ski kit) for the toe on each set of skis, then inserts for your heels.
Here's the thread: https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...reedom-Inserts
Good stuff from the usual suspects (@spyderjon, @1000-oaks)
... Thom
Does anyone have working tech toe pieces that I could either buy or rent for the next month from you? My gray toe pieces no longer work (pins won't engage the boot at all despite full snow clearing, pulling up on the toe piece, every other possible fix) and I have a trip to Europe in 5 days that I need the bindings for.
Located in the SF Bay Area, get back to the states on 1/20
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I’m considering mounting my Amplids and G3 Carbon Empires with a second ski kit and maybe inserts on the heel piece but the brakes are fitting for the 126mm waist so may be too big for the 115 waist. I can figure that out later though.
My question is whether you would recommend searching the used market or if the new CAST system is that much more efficient and easier to use with the second ski kit? I wouldn’t mind saving a few bucks and having some more hassle if it’s possible to do it through gear swap/CL/fleabay. But, if it is that much harder I can just commit and get her done quickly from the site.
Well the second ski kit as they currently sell it will only work with the cast 2.0 (grey home made tech toes) or cast 2.1 (purple home made tech toes), the cast 1.0 system with the plates won’t work with your second ski kit, I have seen a few of the newer systems for sale or trade in Jackson but not many and they’re hardly bellow retail prices so I’d probably just order the set from Cast.
RE: inserts
What size(length) screws did you use?