Assumptions are fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazderati
What matters is this:
You have yet to defend your position or answer any questions related to them. You clearly are unable or unwilling to engage in sensible debate.
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Assumptions are fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazderati
What matters is this:
You have yet to defend your position or answer any questions related to them. You clearly are unable or unwilling to engage in sensible debate.
Well that is Portland, so results are a little skewed. Isn't it common for hipsters to have coyotes for pets?...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
I see them all the time in places as sophisticated as Iceman's home town, mid day, sauntering across the carefully manicured lawn like they own the place. We have a pack or two in my town as well, and so I always keep an eye out. They don't seem as big in the burbs, tho... is that true? I've only heard of one dog getting nabbed and it was a toy poodle.
But they are all over the place in Vermont. I hear them yipping at all hours and my dog has a bird... makes for some fun, restless evenings, like this past weekend, lol.
And FTR, Maz is the farthest person from a douche IRL. (At least that's what he asked me to say.)
Hah. Don't ruin my rep!
Interesting that C&R fishing was brought up.
Summit, the studies I have read show a much greater mortality rate than what you posted.Quote:
Studies show 3-10% of catch-and-release fish die. This probably means a couple 100,000 of dead fish per year in the US.
I have fly fished for a long time and anymore I crimp my barbs so aggressively that if I give the fish a good bit of slack they self release.
To me the moment that counts is the strike and the set, once they are hooked they are pretty much caught, at least in my mind, so why not let them off ASAP, i know what a trout looks like, don't need anymore stinkin pictures. As for eating them, if a trout is from a high mountain lake it has decent flavor. The river fish around here have all the flavor of a chunk of cardboard.
If a fish cannot spit the fly after a bunch of attempts at slacking the line I will get it in close and cut the line.
I shoot gophers as soon as the enter into my yard. Does that make me an asshole? Don't really care.
Makes you a Montana resident. Pretty sure that's the state sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by bunion
I wouldn't have dogs in coyote cuntry if they weren't capable of dealing with coyotes, bears or mountain lions. I've had close encounters with contact with both. Dogs came out on top.
We really need Pio to "weigh" in on the whole trout fishing thing.
Kinda interesting reading a conversation largely held by members of a culture that, if not actively promotes, at least condones lethal force in the defence of their property against members of their own species.
Whoa. The thread just went existential.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCMountainHound
Just a mild troll. And ya, taking individual sentiment and applying it broadly is reaching more than a tad.
But interesting nonetheless. Taking a life is taking a life - all that changes is the justification.
Consistency demands that Mazd let a burglar go about their natural burglarizing because property is an arbitrary concept and coyotes are fish that eat pets? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BCMountainHound
Does Leavenworth have to change his bathrobe atire before standing his ground? Only if the burglar is trying to steal his dog? :D
This topic is upside down already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timberridge
POTDQuote:
Originally Posted by NW_SKIER
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Originally Posted by BCMountainHound
Yeah the ironing is thick.
I wouldn't use lethal force to keep someone from stealing my stuff, but if they tried to enter my home when I was in it? Not sure what would happen.
I keep an expired can of Bear Spray handy as a 1st response but there is also a loaded pistol handy.
Meh, used to shoot a lot more of them when I lived in Utardia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier
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Originally Posted by BCMountainHound
So the GF is organizing the annual silent retreat and this year she has run into a problem where a nest of hornets has occupied one of the cabin at the mountain ranch, its normaly a no brainer to get rid of hornets but the buddist who owns the place will not ... a sentient being is a sentient being
Two t's in attire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Summit
Woody's robe is either made from some high tech fiber and comes from Mountain Equipment or it's Real Tree camo and sold by Cabela's. No change required.
In my area black bear and cougar populations are exploding
It's Indians here.Quote:
Originally Posted by steepconcrete
Exploding Indians?
Is there skiing in that coyote frolic zone?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier
Must be the casinos.Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
Interesting on your fishing technique and outlook.Quote:
Originally Posted by bunion
On the numbers, you are probably better read than I am.
The cougars are only prolific here in the Yakima valley during spring barrel tasting.Quote:
Originally Posted by steepconcrete
I will post some pictures of the entire coyote slaying attire. All my camo gear is from First Lite. To suggest I would own any Cabela's clothing is insulting. Far too low speed for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronWright
Yes, the frolic zone skiing is excellent when the snowpack is fat.Quote:
Originally Posted by abraham
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i'm pretty sure i know more about fishin than the two of ya combinedQuote:
Originally Posted by Summit
probably cause i do it more than twice as much
them #ers are way high
no way in hell are that many fish dieing on any catch and release waters specially the green
most literature i can find on trout are 3-4 %
now factor in bait dunkin which isn't allowed on most catch and release water cause it doesn't fuckin work
and piss poor handling techinquies and warmer water temps yes maybe those #ers rise
but its not that hard to catch and release fish with a low mortality rate
i'd bet mine is sub 1%
but it takes a lot to kill a carpz
How many fish do you think are caught and released per year?Quote:
Originally Posted by skifishbum
33 million anglers fish 553 million fishing-days per year in the US. Say half of them C&R 1 fish every other day at 2% mortality... that is an insanely conservative estimate... 2.8 million dead C&R fish per year.
Deep Ecology minded preservationist bleeding hearts should lose their shit over that.
Apologies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier
i'm a fisherbum
i don't pretend to know shit i don't know shit about
but don't let it stop you from trollin stupid with your sparkle powerbait umbrella rig
and internet knowledge
because your casting skills suck
Come on BCM, look at my signature, people for the most part are fucking retards and a virus to the planet (thank you Agent Smith). Knocking off the idiots is doing the world a favor.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCMountainHound
If elected Dicktator of North America, my first action will be to give all new born males a vasectomy while getting their little peckers trimmed.
Want to procreate, good luck convincing my "no more dipshats" panel you should be allowed a reversal of the procedure.
My problem isn't with the critters, but fucking dumb ass people.
But hey, I love 20% of you :biggrin:
From a conservationist point of view, I C&R is fine. It allows fishing in areas where it would otherwise be forbidden or only by limited permit. Thus you get huge economic boosts to rural areas and enjoyment for sportsmen and women...Quote:
Originally Posted by skifishbum
The appreciation for the wilds and the subsequent influence for conservation generated by fishing far outweighs dead C&R fish... but humane C&R with good technique and barbless hooks should be the way to minimize morbidity and mortality. I know you've forgotten more about fishing than I'll ever know. Sounds like your technique is solid.
My issue is the I see the same warped preservationist ideal that is espoused by people like Mazz also applied to justify retarded exclusions like kicking bikes out of trails or closing 4WD roads and ultimately making the wilds more exclusive... concentrating users.
Ultimately this gets fewer people into the wilds and drives some more urban dwellers into the same worship of the twisted ideals... but most people respond by not caring about places they cannot go and will never see and the USFS budget gets cut again.
You're flailing at this point, man.
Just adding to the discussion: I live in the District of Columbia. I have Coyotes in my neighborhood. They aren't allowed to be shot (no hunting in DC.)
Summit - now imagine those 500M+ angling days resulting in at least one dead fish each, rather than 2%. Can't eat something and throw it back...
summit lives out west man, he knows what he is talking about...
And some asbestos glovesQuote:
Originally Posted by flowing alpy
I'm pro-C&R. I can talk about the fish C&R kills and still be in favor of C&R because it is much better than having overfished or closed streams that people stop visiting and caring about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tippster
there's talkin about fishin
and there's fishin
and there's summit babblin about cuttin bait
in the yote thread
When future Representative James Piotrowski sits around the campfire, he sits AROUND the campfire.
There are really people who think coyotes are cute? I was raised in the heart of progressive, NY Metro America, and at least when I was living there coyotes were pretty much universally detested. They were the one animal you didn't swerve or brake for if it stepped in front of your car. When did that change?
I'm more concerned about having a hostile encounter with someones domesticated dog while hiking around here, and frankly wish that more trails were closed to dogs. Keep your filthy, aggressive, annoying, shit-spewing dogs at home where you can enjoy them, and I don't have to have my day in the mountains ruined by their presence.
meanwhile
yotes gonna yote
fish gonna fish
Pio gonna Pio
Coyotes and carp will one day rule land and water. We'll have to wait till Nov to see if Pio will rule West Idaho.