Telemark skiing is dead.

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Originally Posted by Seeburglar

Looking for some touring ski recommendations!

Last year I picked up a pair of K2 wayback 96's, with a pair of 22 design lynx bindings. Unfortunately I'm not very stoked on the skis. Naturally they're a lightweight touring ski, so I find whenever I'm trying to drive em, they have a tendancy more to buckle than hold. I thought I'd like the lightweight setup, but if I really need to shave grams, I prefer using an at setup. So I'm thinking of pulling the lynx's off and swapping the waybacks for something stiffer, and preferably wider.

I also have a pair of Deathwishs with outlaw x's (thanks BeHuWe), and those suckers are awesome!

Anyone have any recommendations?

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You should look to an On3p woodsman tour. One of the standouts of touring tele skis.


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Originally Posted by bodywhomper

-Tx comp 27.5/28.0 Shell
-Red (stiff) solo. Has occurred set at 3, 4, and 5 preload.
-no brakes
-L binding

I use the same bindings on my mantra m102’s with double yellow springs w/o problems (with the tape on the top sheet. Use the m102’s in a ton of different conditions, including the same conditions as to when I ejected from the bibby’s. I believe the bibby’s flex a lot more underfoot than the m102’s.

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Damn, I am stumped. That would have to be a lot flexing, but I guess that makes the most sense.

ETA: with just the red spring solo and no inner yellow spring, I guess I'd just confirm that you reversed the centering screw (action starts after 1:00 and I'm 95% certain that this is required for either OG Outlaw or Outlaw X).

How attached are you to the Bibby flex under foot? Perhaps an experiment with a plate/riser to decrease flex?

Well, I’ve never done that flip the torx screw trick and had no idea it was needed. I have outlaw x’s…. I’ll look at the system more closely.

PB, not sure about my marriage with the flex underfoot of the bibby’s. The flex idea is a spitball. It always seems to happen to me as deep snow transitions and thickens, which, for me, is a condition where the bibby’s shine.

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Originally Posted by bodywhomper

Well, I’ve never done that flip the torx screw trick and had no idea it was needed. I have outlaw x’s…. I’ll look at the system more closely.

PB, not sure about my marriage with the flex underfoot of the bibby’s. The flex idea is a spitball. It always seems to happen to me as deep snow transitions and thickens, which, for me, is a condition where the bibby’s shine.

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It's an easy fix, though I have no idea why that would be the problem. Nonetheless, I'd either add the inner yellow spring or reverse the screw.

Thanks! I’ll give it a shot.

New boots have been starting to hit the stores. If you intend to get in them this season, and didn't pre-order I'd work on sourcing. At my "local" tele shop every boot they got in was spoken for by pre-orders and I expect similar at a lot of shops.

yeah they showed up at The Backcountry yesterday and all of a sudden a bunch of wookies were frantically trying on boots

we sold four pair before we even got them checked into inventory

I bet we will sell a few this weekend

some stores pre sold everything they ordered

if you want some don’t wait

Happy to hear it. Though I won’t be buying anytime soon, the boot is exactly what I was hoping for. Glad it’s selling.

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Originally Posted by ~mikey b

we sold four pair before we even got them checked into inventory

I bet we will sell a few this weekend

some stores pre sold everything they ordered

if you want some don’t wait

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Be sure to dress in costume for better tele boot service, right? ;)

I’m waiting for the new TX comps, but in the meantime I’ll be following the user reports as these get used by the millions of telemarkers out there.

Same, but also trying to get more wookie for future purchases.

Also eagerly anticipating the new TX Comps. Although I think it will be harder to significantly improve on the Comps than the Pros.

Any body else interested in the new 22D Bandit bindings?

we got the TTS Transit 2.0 binding in too

here’s the size chart for those

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...f0f4b321f9.jpg


26.5 new TX Pro is 299mm BSL - anything smaller than that should be in the Small, as the Large would not allow you to use the back wire position

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Originally Posted by PB

Also eagerly anticipating the new TX Comps. Although I think it will be harder to significantly improve on the Comps than the Pros.

Any body else interested in the new 22D Bandit bindings?

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I’m interested. I really like the idea of the retractable brakes. I’m living in insert mode on most of my skis. My current guess is that they won’t be easily swappable if they need wider or narrower brakes. Hopefully, I’m wrong.

brakes aren’t that hard to change on Outlaws, so Bandits should be ok

I agree, it’s very simple for the outlaw. Bandits look pretty different in the videos and photos. Spring thing in the front of the binding and all. Would be great if can easily swap bindings and brakes between wide range of ski widths.

oh I haven’t seen the Bandit yet…

I haven’t fondled either.

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Originally Posted by PB

Also eagerly anticipating the new TX Comps. Although I think it will be harder to significantly improve on the Comps than the Pros.

Any body else interested in the new 22D Bandit bindings?

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I really want to see if the brakes truly retract. In the 22D catalog they call the outlaw brakes retractable and anyone who has used them knows they really don’t retract.

If they do I’ll likely grab a pair for this season.


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Lots of squabbling over on EYT re retractability. Current consensus has settled on: they seem to retract with a boot in the binding but do not appear to if you just force/lift the brakes up. They're supposed to show up in November - until then it's mostly conjecture.

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Originally Posted by PB

Lots of squabbling over on EYT re retractability. Current consensus has settled on: they seem to retract with a boot in the binding but do not appear to if you just force/lift the brakes up. They're supposed to show up in November - until then it's mostly conjecture.

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I was perusing those threads as well. Lots of very opinionated people riding around on broken bindings.

I hope the bandit sells well for them and it can usher in more people to tele/ntn. Couple that with a new resort boot and maybe we’ll see a more noticeable rise in tele popularity


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TTS Transit 2.0 in the house

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...ae4f7aa5f9.jpg

and TX Pro boots

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...779d486411.jpg