Snow for the Euros.

Hey Euro Mags. Heading to Zurich end of this week for the first time. I know its a low snow situation over there this year but hope to get a few last spring turns in. We are Epic Passers and probably going to do andermatt and crans montana, but will have a car and there’s a head swimming amount of options over there.
Is it worth hitting Titlis or Jungfrau? Any beta on what may ski better low tide?
What’s your fave spring spot?
Obviously watching weather religiously to see if we get lucky anywhere with surprise snowfall, but not looking promising at the moment on that front.

Thanks for any advice?

Had a great time in an Evolene/Arolla/Alagna/Courmayeur loop. Thanks to all of you who keep this thread useful. I was gonna post pictures but could not figure out how to do it anymore.

Forum is on and of..
Pretty wild in the southern Alps...

https://powderguide.com/en/magazine/...t-rodeo-cowboy

It is T-shirt warm at midnight outside. Can’t believe it snowing somewhere. Skied this col two weeks ago. Took some time to figure out how to shoot past the rocks. so I will name it exit scam from now on. https://i.postimg.cc/Tw8TGwB9/IMG-3719.jpg


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Deeeep but lifts closed today so jr lapped Les Moulins on the Spoons. Tomorrow should be interesting!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R4

https://i.postimg.cc/cLD4NKtp/IMG-3757.jpg this one is a bitch to get too. I guess it was skied 5 times in the last 10years. Before???? Guess 0 but nobody knows. It was a first for me. Bad luck, wind blow hard right into it. Snow was cardboard with chunks breaking out each turn.


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https://i.postimg.cc/cLD4NKtp/IMG-3757.jpg this one is a bitch to get too. I guess it was skied 5 times in the last 10years. Before???? Guess 0 but nobody knows. It was a first for me. Bad luck, wind blow hard right into it. Snow was cardboard with chunks breaking out each turn.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZY5...YXV0eSBza2k%3D

Are there any summer bump runs at Hintertux? I see lots of pics and video of huge park jumps and miles of impeccable groomer for the racy types, but no bump shots. Whats the deal? Inquiring minds wanna know.

I don't think there is any bump runs in hintertux.

I bet they just put the moguls away for the summer.
Gotta wonder where they store them all

well, that is disappointing. do any of the alps summer places let the bumps form? hows about passo stelvio or zermatt? les duex alpes maybe?

Peak number one
https://i.postimg.cc/vTBSfq8V/IMG-3897.jpg

Route scouting for peak number 2

https://i.postimg.cc/yxcnFM4W/IMG-3890.jpg


Looked sometime at this line and got it in today

https://i.postimg.cc/k5RS6xdg/IMG-3908.jpg

One more
https://i.postimg.cc/CLt1q7GW/IMG-3929.jpg


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well, that is disappointing. do any of the alps summer places let the bumps form? hows about passo stelvio or zermatt? les duex alpes maybe?

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tignes before had a whole piste of bumps for summer training camps.

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https://i.postimg.cc/kXM71rZr/IMG-4024.jpg
One more


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People dying in Switzerland. 5 dead found on Saturday. https://www.srf.ch/news/schweiz/wall...ot-aufgefunden

1 dead on Friday.


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Forums are alive again. Roger Roger.

Yeah crazy, already 11 avi victims in may in Switzerland. Usually it is less then 1 per average.


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Wow, that's heartbreaking.

It's summer and this board has been mess so not sure how much traffic is here, but got a question for you Euro types w younger kids . We are considering bringing the Duff clan to euroland toward the end of March beginning of April next year for the kids school break Kids will be 12 and 8, both fairly strong skiiers for their age. My wife's big concern is how do you guys ski off piste safely with younger kids? I'm not talking about big consequential lines , but the kids are used to North American mountains where everything is patrolled and bombed into submission and prefer skiing powder ,bowls, trees , bumps , etc. They would be bored to tears groomer zooming for a whole week. I'm less concerned about the 12 year old as he has had some side country experience, but more asking how to do this with an 8 year old who obviously doesn't have any avy training or gear. Also she usually spends a couple days in ski school ,but again would hate us if they kept her on easy groomers the whole time and would refuse to go back a second day. How does that work at this age?Also if we got a guide a few days , would guides even take kids that young? Is there any type of safely accessable way of skiing non groomed terrain with younger kids? Sorry for the Euro kid JONG question. Any advice is appreciated.

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It's summer and this board has been mess so not sure how much traffic is here, but got a question for you Euro types w younger kids . We are considering bringing the Duff clan to euroland toward the end of March beginning of April next year for the kids school break Kids will be 12 and 8, both fairly strong skiiers for their age. My wife's big concern is how do you guys ski off piste safely with younger kids? I'm not talking about big consequential lines , but the kids are used to North American mountains where everything is patrolled and bombed into submission and prefer skiing powder ,bowls, trees , bumps , etc. They would be bored to tears groomer zooming for a whole week. I'm less concerned about the 12 year old as he has had some side country experience, but more asking how to do this with an 8 year old who obviously doesn't have any avy training or gear. Also she usually spends a couple days in ski school ,but again would hate us if they kept her on easy groomers the whole time and would refuse to go back a second day. How does that work at this age?Also if we got a guide a few days , would guides even take kids that young? Is there any type of safely accessable way of skiing non groomed terrain with younger kids? Sorry for the Euro kid JONG question. Any advice is appreciated.

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I think there's a much bigger question here about what your family's risk tolerance is, and what you and your wife are comfortable with. I don't think you can eliminate risk entirely here, but you can do your part to check the forecast, use terrain shading maps to identify areas less likely to slide, practice safe skiing by allowing only one person on the slopes at a time, etc. With two adults I would:

1. Choose days when the forecast is relatively low
2. Choose terrain that isn't sustained over 35 degrees or that has complex or steep starting zones
3. Have one adult ski to an island of relative safety, putting in a "left barrier" or a "right barrier" track
4. Have the kid ski to the adult
5. Have an adult ski last

Obvs put a beacon on the little one, but that's all she would need

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I skied Euroland as a kid [emoji637][emoji[emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]][emoji640][emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]]]-[emoji637][emoji6[emoji640][emoji638]]yrs and as an adult and never was I bored to tears skiing groomers. Skiing is fun!

It’s a good opportunity to explain the cultural differences between Europe and the US and to educate them about how terrain is managed differently. There are certainly plenty of zones in between runs and areas that directly impacting that are managed, but you’ll have to be the judge of what is appropriate in the moment.

You can always stick to ski routes if they are marked as open. At least in Austria these are avi controlled (though check at the specific ski lifts if that's the case locally). They will be marked as open or closed on the lift info boards depending on the conditions.
Not sure how this is handled outside of Austria though.
Personally, if avalanche/ snow conditons are generally stable and my kids can handle the terrain, I would not find them too risky to take kids down.
But definitely stick a beacon on them.
Here's more info:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ski_route

Edit to add: obviously depends on the terrain. Some ski routes here are super mellow meadowskipping next to pistes, others can be a bit more challenging. So really depends on general avi conditions and skiing ability, so always check them out and be sure before you head off