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Sweet record. The B Bowl old tards (oh excuse me I meant old guard), fucking smart ones for sure. That chick might want to get some new ski partners and maybe pull her head out of her asshole, maybe start making just a little better decisions in the future. The B Bowl hardcores never cease to amaze me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunion
lest we forget... not a hint of compassion for these folks. they put more than their share at risk. read these posts fucktards and live...
quoted for truth, at least the old fuck tard who wears the rear entry boots and waddles his sorry washed up ass out to the high consequence blue squar every day will be leaving for AK soon. I would want that shitstick to guide me in Alaska about as much as I would want the doctor to do surgery on me. Fuck them, they put people at risk every day, what if some of that hangfire woulda come down during the heli evac...... Rumor has it that BB will not be selling passes to people who have nicknames and have been skiing there for more then 20 years. They are too fucking old to ski the real terrain and their egos can't take it so they wanna be the big men out on Saddle. Real big, all of your tracks were erased last night by a fucking 8 foot fracture.Quote:
Originally Posted by hick
Not me, I've been chillin again since around mid month, in "rehab"... Not fun but still hopeful. Stoked that it's this sick right now. I rode the lift with your buddy Troy one day, I was doin pretty good that day. One day at a time, ha ha.Quote:
tone was that you gingerly rippin...? youve got some twins around wearin similar shit...
It's been cool to watch this avy cycle from the armchair though. Fuck it I'm just gonna say it. There is no amount of warning or reasoning that can change the psychology of a small percentage, that is obvious. As long as the volunteers and the professionals are willing to perform at the level of risk that open boundaries require, then we have this priveledge. The avlanche pros, the ski patrol, search and rescue etc. do an amazing job, but I think it's gonna cost some lives sooner than later and that comes with the territory. There are alot of horrible ways to die out there, I would have been stoked to survive a slide off Saddle like that. The stuff off the ramp is no joke right now either, even worse ways to die out there. It's just not worth it right now. I thought those new rockered flop sticks made skiing the crud as fun as pow anyways?
I just can't wait to get back to the hill. Doing everything I can to make that happen. At least there is a base there now for March and April, 40 something days of hope and promise.
"I thought those new rockered flop sticks made skiing the crud as fun as pow"
The old tards still have straight skis and think rocker is a cover band from the eighteis. IE the last time they got laid. This makes them even bigger avy bait then they already are cuz they ski slow and punch deep. That slide that ripped the dorkter to peices, I coulda skied out of backwards. Ask him how his quad is doing, it was completely pulled off the bone. Definatly hearing that their passes are gone next year.
the dr is a biglie guy spinnin tramlaps now, lotsa bb poacher expats shreddin lonepeak lately...
spot on tho mostly, you must have a local lil bird whisperin to ya...
unfortunately lotsa the older nicknames gittin replaced by new ones & mad pow disease gonna cull the herd sometime sadly...
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A large natural slide occurred on Saddle Peak Saturday night (2-25). This slide propagated across the ridge that many consider to be the safest route down
looks like i picked the wrong weekend to go to red lodge. you're welcome everyone.
Thank fucking god. I still see him at bb on bigger days.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseWeldr
How bout his twin, the other lunatic with autism he says?
Crazy fuck.
Damn fine again today minus people, practically ski on rides on the slushmenz, how did those tracks wind up on the remaining snow above the crown on saddle?
Pretty sure they're talking about a different doctor; bc not weizner.Quote:
Originally Posted by lobstahmeatwad
Johnc bringing da lulz.
At this point I wish Bridger would just close that gate. It is now completely obvious that the small percentage are not going to use that gate responsibly. By several unbelievable strokes of luck, no one has died out there yet -- but with people dropping lines like the south summit on a high hazard day it is only a matter of time. There really is no point in repeatedly exposing rescuers to risk when it is readily apparent that people are unwilling to exercise any caution whatsoever. And when poor decisions outside the ropes cause in-bounds closures (i.e. closing Slushman's and the ridge to respond to a Saddle slide) there is really no excuse. Close the gate. Still want to ski Saddle? Great, skin for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by tone capone
Eh, that's kind of a slippery slope when you want people to be protected from themselves. Yeah, it sucks that stuff got shut down early, but who am I to say people don't have the right to put themselves in harm's way? I don't think there's a clear answer to access gates and safety, but the risks and responsibilities are posted pretty clearly when you leave...
I say leave them open so I can get out when I want, and if people want to go kill themselves for epicbrobrasickpowgnar turns, then so be it. It's sad, but it's their life.
As long as first responders are down with it, then let it be open. If some people don't value their life enough to stay off it with a snowpack like that, then let nature take it's course. There will be a price, it's just a question of how many until the community has enough of the carnage or rescuers pull the plug. We've all had a little luck on our sides at times, but this is like russian roulette. I don't blame the authorities for keeping it closed when they do. A helicopeter aint gonna swoop down and save ya if it's storming or socked in.
I wouldn't blame them if next time it's like this they close for a week. It's not like it's any safer three days later, just more likely there will be more lemmings on it when it rips big like it did the other night.
They should just take the lift out this summer and put it up Saddle for the Usual Suspects and make Slushmans and Mundy's a skin accessed freeride playground.:biggrin::
Wouldn't bother me a bit if they shut the gate when the avi center calls it high and slopes are ripping out up and down the range. The idiots are really not the concern but subjecting SAR, patrol and the avi center guys to extreme risks has to be weighed. I for one like having these guys around.
From nbcmontana.com
http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/30555162/detail.html
"BOZEMAN, Mont. -- A new report released for last Friday's avalanche said a group of three skiers were on Saddle Peak, just south of the Bridger Bowl ski area.
All three knew the avalanche danger was high, it said, and one of the skiers was with a group that triggered a large avalanche a few days prior.
Saddle Peak is a popular spot for backcountry skiers and snowboarders. In fact, according to the report, skiers had already taken runs down the slope that day.
But it was Casey Lewis' first time down when she was caught in the slide.
"As soon as they cross that boundary line, whether they're one or two feet on the other side of that boundary line, they might as well be one or two miles away in any backcountry area" said Bridger Bowl marketing director Doug Wales. "We're not doing control work out there."
Wales said that even though skiers ride the ski area's lift then hike to Saddle Peak, it's up to the individuals to make the judgement whether to step out-of-bounds.
"When anybody's making that personal choice to go in the backcountry, they need to take it upon themselves to do their own research" Wales said.
That means knowing what the avalanche rating is. The report said the three skiing that day all knew the danger was high but went anyway.
"I couldn't name all the points and shoots out there but I know how to get back down" said Rock Mees, about snowboarding in the backcountry.
Mees said he likes going in the backcountry.
But once, he got lost for hours. After finding out first hand how dangerous it can be, he always takes precautions- including staying away when avalanche danger is high.
"If it's more than moderate, I don't really care about going" Mees said.
Other back-country enthusiasts agreed.
"Yeah it's not worth it when the avalanche is high" said skier Colin Ruh. "At the beginning of this season it wasn't that high, and it was nicer to go up there. But right now, no."
Avalanche experts said even for the most experienced, all it takes is one bad run to trigger a deadly slide.
NBC Montana checked with Search and Rescue to see how much it costs every time they're called out.
Lieutenant Jason Jarrett told us they divide a year's worth of bills by how many missions they went on.
Lt. Jarrett said it totals about $280 per rescue.
Of course, some rescues are more expensive than others, he said. For instance, the Saddle Peak avalanche required a helicopter."
It just seems like BS that the out of bounds conditions affects in bounds decision making. Since rescuers are volunteers I guess that does make a difference, but it is also a bit of a slippery slope when employees paid by the ski area are responding to out of bounds incidents. I don't really give a shit if people put themselves in harm's way, but when it starts to affect others with lift closures etc. I do start to have a problem with it. Going to have a lot less of that if the gate is closed or moved to the bottom of the lift.
As a side note: does anyone know who does pay for SAR responses like this last Saddle rescue?
Here ya goQuote:
Originally Posted by NWFlow
http://www.kxlf.com/news/when-gallat...ots-the-bill-/
Kinda what I thought in regards to funding. It does make sense that taxpayers pay. I know I will appreciate SAR public funding if I am ever in a position to need it!
I think the reason Bridger can't just close the gate for high hazard days (aside from any USFS logistics that may be involved) is because it then begins to imply that the area is "safe" on lower hazard days. If the gate is going to be there, it has to be open.
And right there in those 2 sentences you sum up the conundrum for all terrain/ski area managers.Quote:
Originally Posted by NWFlow
"If" BB decided to close the gate on days they deem questionable/hazardous the lemmings would duck the ropes and go anyway.
Free will can be a bitch but it beats the alternatives.
Dare I say it, but SkiFishBum in the Canyons avalanche thread had it nailed; what the hell happened to personal responsibility? Sounds like those folks need more of it...
funneh. When I eat too many cheese blintzes and get gigantic fat and have a heart attack or stroke out and have to be air lifted to billings for heart or brain surgery no one picks up my cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtcham
Even though there are warnings all over the place against this behavior and well the bakery just makes them so good its impossible for me to ignore them and I live right next door and that's why I live there.
I say make um pay per incident on top of tax payer dollars. Accidents happen and you always have to pay. Offer a SAR BC insurance plan you can pay into if you are stupid and hurt yourself allot.
You have one douche causing two BC ski evacts in 1 year??? WTF!
Actually; thats the problem, WE (as in healthy taxpaying citizens) do pick up the cost. Because when that idiot that caused his own heart attack shows up at the hospital, it's illegal for the hospital to refuse care, regardless of his ability to pay. Welcome to socialism, and the endless road of "its not my (their) fault." Unfortunately even if the resort implements policy that rewards smart skiers and requires personal responsibility, we have a legal system full of sue happy lawyers prepared to ruin the hill financially for the sake of one dumbass.Quote:
Originally Posted by lobstahmeatwad
Yes, but if you can pay they will get the money from you. If you are in the BC, they don't ask if you can pay. It's just paid for. In NH a while back there was an incident where a kid was stupid and got lost out on mt. wash overnight and had a huge rescue team looking for him with helos and the whole 9 yards. He kept moving around and took forever to find but when he got home they sent him a huge bill. Obviously you can't say some people deserve to pay and some don't, but I do think there should be some situation in place to make the people who get rescued in some way responsible. There seems to be this belief, especially sidecountry places like this, that patrol/rescuers will come get you if you get hurt so it doesn't much matter. I heard someone in the tram line the other day say they knew Lone Lake Cirque was dangerous but it was ok because if anything happened Patrol would come get them...Quote:
Originally Posted by cliffhucker
And that is true, we will close terrain, drop everything we are doing and risk our asses to go and get some dumbshit who ignored the GNAFC advisories and got messed up.Quote:
Originally Posted by OverTurn
Because, who else will do it?
Woo hoo! I skied (like a complete gaper) today, which is kind of monumental considering it's my third real (half) ski day in two months. Felt pretty damn good at the time but who knows what tommorow brings. Just grateful for each precious day I can get down the hill without crippling pain! Bronco was skiing so awesome, a field of moguls never looked so beautiful to me. Amazing how much better it skis over there with the new lift.
Great to see so many regulars rippin and stoked. Thanks to all who are lookin out for me and wishing me well, it means alot. Vibes and respect to all who are willing to risk life and limb for us dirtbags and scoundrels!
hi
i posted about coming to bozeman a few weeks ago here and elsewhere around tgr. I am hitting bridger tomorrow and my friend cant join so if any one is around tomorrow and doesnt mind if I join it would be great. id love to see the ridge a bit..i take directions well (like follow my lead or dont ski to the left, etc) and dont want to cause that type of shit like up on saddle peak over the weekend so no need to worry about me doing stupid stuff. i was up down at big sky today but due to the weather only able to score one run off the tram.. top was shit with the awful blowing but the gullies were pretty sweet. ill be up there around opening and rent a transceiver ..
btw. you can thank me for the snow. i brought it from finland :)
well. no answer and i am heading out. red helmet, black jacket pants, red back pack and yellow 183 BRO model PM gear skiis
well dang nsiter sorry u got the crickets chirpin...
i was up there flippin our vrbo, skied for awhile after-best softest coverage of the season so far, lotsa nooks and crannys holdin the goods w another six/eight(!!) today shld be outfuckingstanding skiing once again...
cheers homies gitsum
Yeah, sorry no one offered to show you around dude. I would make a pretty lame tour guide for a traveler right now, not really able to hike much or ski the gnar. I hope SOMEONE up there showed you the goods. Yesterday was a good day. Creamy three inch blue bird pow morning with no crowds, can't beat that.
Can you believe my Dad is twice as old as me and still at it? The tables have turned this year:eek:
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Glad I made it up yesterday, great to see all the familiar faces up there for such a quality sleeper day.
Old guy stoke! sweet!
I love 3" sleeper days at the Bowl, I'll take em' over 30" days any day.
great week been up everyday just keeps gittin deeper, crowded for the mornin slushy sesh but thinned by noonish...deep like midthigh in places, rode the crowdwave, had2giddy early dangit --gosh that was nice....
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& another 6+ sat a.m.?siiiiick...3/3report
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The Bridger Range:
Over the past few weeks the Bridger Range has gone from worst to first in terms of snowfall. A favorable northwest flow has provided consistent moisture which has produced respectable snowfall amounts. Over the past 24 hours close to a foot and a half of low density snow has been recorded at the top of the Bridger Lift. This latest round of snow has been accompanied by strong west/northwest winds, which has easily transported the new snow onto leeward slopes.
Today’s primary avalanche concern for the Bridger Range will be any slope that has received a wind load. Although freshly formed wind slabs will be most pronounced along exposed ridgelines, drifts of windblown snow will also be common on the lee side of mid elevation sub-ridges. With more snow and wind forecasted through today, natural avalanches will be likely and human triggered avalanches will be very likely on all wind loaded slopes.
A secondary concern for the Bridger Range will be avalanches failing on faceted layers buried deeper in the pack. Slides initiating within the storm snow and stepping down will be the most likely cause for this type of event. Although the chances of a slide stepping down are becoming less over time, any slide that does step down will likely produce a large and unmanageable avalanche.
Today, the avalanche danger is rated HIGH on all wind loaded slopes and slopes steeper than 35 degrees. Less steep, non wind loaded slopes have a CONSIDERABLE avalanche danger.
Lookin good dudes. Moar pics prease.
fuckin redonkulous today
It's so beautiful...
http://sat.wrh.noaa.gov/satellite/4k...4NW.GIF.8.jpg,
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it was silly out there today. woulda sucked to get stuck on slushies. winds were absurd.
Friday was KILLER!!! march 1, 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzR6h...1&feature=plcp
your vid sux here's some rad BB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqVnW9MOr0g
Given the other threads on the board right now, I just want to comment how nice and chill Bridger was on Saturday. I did not catch even a hint of aggression in the lift line or on the ridge.
huh, guess you didnt go over to the fucktard side aka slushies.Quote:
Originally Posted by butterscotch