What does this have to do with BOA? Also, you should be able to ski varied terrain with your boots undone. Standard training.Quote:
Originally Posted by muted reborn
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What does this have to do with BOA? Also, you should be able to ski varied terrain with your boots undone. Standard training.Quote:
Originally Posted by muted reborn
I mean if tom is saying they gave the athletes 4 buckle and boa boots to choose from and they chose the boa, I don't really think that's Tom's fault.
I for one am never super happy with any ski boots I have so am all for something new. I frickin love the boa systems I've had on touring boot lowers so it's hard for me to see how they'll suck on the cuffs.
especily the rear entry boots, you were on your ass if you were in the back seat
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Originally Posted by tragicsolitude
Since we are arguing semantics...Quote:
Originally Posted by onenerdykid
Are you referring to only Atomic? Or are you saying that you are certain that a double BOA has not been used by any of the other manufactures' athletes in a WC race?
When did the ski industry engage with TGR in the past? Matt, Tom and Marshal are exceptions; willing to take the time online to share what they know. Fede Sbrissa used to consider it part of his job. There are others who lurk more or less daily but never post, but the number has remained pretty constant over the years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sessiøn
it’s been pretty well documented that no brands have used double boa in actual competition runs. Head was testing them a bunch in practice runs and pictures were showing up. But come comp time they all had switched back to buckles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs
https://www.boafit.com/en-us/ski
I duno who sold BOA to the ski boot industry or how/ why they did but I'm pretty sure we are all just BOAing period end of sentence if one look at the mfgers in that link who are on the program and i think it doesnt really matter at least not to me
Can we FN stop it w/ the BOA $#!+ ; I have never been lesser stoked for new gear.
Thank you Marshal and Sali for at least putting out new skis/clamps....
boa is the biggest thing for 25-26. So no we can’t stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by iriponsnow
What new clamps? Missed it in this absolutely riveting discussion of boa.Quote:
Originally Posted by iriponsnow
I’m not smart enough to know if I love or hate BOA, but is it possible for a peasant like me to get one of those limited edition magenta langes? Who is the JP distributor?
Regardless— stoked on the tech toes and no walk mode stuff coming out. Might be enough to let the Lange fantasy go.
Only fear I can imagine from BOA is slack each run and long-term longevity.
That atomic butter is sexy as fuck, too.
We’ll see what fits.
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I wear a 27, so can I stick with 4 buckles then?Quote:
Originally Posted by FloridaSnow
Props to Tom and Matt for putting up with our bullshit and making good gear. I am in the camp that the butter boot is ugly but tempted anyway for a stiffer atomic fit boot. Also want to try the cortex’s. Boa sounds like it might have benefits, light boots for inbound not so much.
No it isn’t. Don’t say dumb shit like that. Boa is a closure system. Leave it at that. The fact that atomic and k2 are both coming out with thick ass PU low volume freeride boots in a time where so many companies just want to cater to mass appeal, that is the biggest development for next year. These are bad ass boots made for us. That is fucking hype. And some are putting tech inserts in non walk mode boots for the even fewer weirdos out there. Don’t worry about boa.Quote:
Originally Posted by FloridaSnow
"sold out" or never shipped? 2 different things there. We got none that we ordered and the store they told us did get some did not either.Quote:
Originally Posted by djhutch
We all know there are clear benefits of coils vs air shocks on bikes.
Let’s make next year all about coils on boots.
I think we want air. More progression is better
And reebok pump liners please.
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The TX Pro was the best selling boot at my shop this year by a solid margin. Did shops in canada not receive their orders? That sucks, but the exchange rate does too.Quote:
Originally Posted by waxman
Ooooh yes!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiwald
Gnar line = +3 pumps.
If I had zipfits and couldn't quite tell if my boots were fully buckled like someone said earlier here, I think I'd be open to double boa. I had a friend who didn't buckle his boots for a whole season, his Zipfits were too tight, ha. That's extreme tho of course but NOTHING like my boot setup with 130 Krypton pros and Intuition liners that are painfully tight.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenBC
I've trained plenty with boots undone on varied terrain at Brideger bowl, you don't have to explain that.
I strangely like the butter color
I have no idea what you’re saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by muted reborn
I think he means the liner is doing most of the work and isn’t dependent on a shell being 100% dialed. In those situations, we might like a BOA.
I think I get it.
I’m the same way now in my Lange RS130/Intuition Pro Tongue. The liner is dense and stiff as fuck. I’ve forgotten to tighten my buckles before the first run a few mornings and just said fuck it, and just skied them on their next-to-tightest setting down to the chair. Not preferred, but easily doable.
But that was also non-risk terrain with hero snow. So… YMMV and all that.
Freshly sharpened? Everyone knows the Pinnacle of ski design and performance can't be dulled. They smoke rocks faster than a hobo on a city street corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by TAFKALVS
Dude— I just saw a pair of these with a snowboard carver dude under the flood lights. His bindings were four inches tall. With inches of visible light underneath his foot.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkiLyft
Holy shit.
1800g evenQuote:
Originally Posted by The Iron Horse
Any new interesting touring gear? Particularly boots or fat but light skis?
That spring in the back brought some memories. In the late 80s I had Technicas that had a spring in the back that I think I blew out on my second day with those boots. That’s what led me to meeting the Lange rep at Granite Chief and buying plugboots.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaijin
And here I am.
put some suitcase name tags on them. Draw a strange four arrow sign with a sharpie on them and call them off white! Coolest bean in the liftline!Quote:
Originally Posted by byates1
I like the sound of that. Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by onenerdykid
i can't speak for all the shops but our small order never came, we were given a store in Nelson and another in Canmore to send customers to, at least one called and said please stop sending people to us we didn't get boots either...Quote:
Originally Posted by ASmileyFace
you realize the customer pays the exchange or tarrifs ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by ASmileyFace
same with Tarrifs on Canadian goods into the USA the customer pays them, trump didn't get it either.
Of course even if he got the memo he wouldn't have read it
Fuck yeah, race plates for snowboard clamps! That's WAY bigger news than BoaQuote:
Originally Posted by gaijin
Couple quick questions nerd, will the remedy come in a 120? Can you get a zip fit in it? If boa is superior to buckles why did you guys go with buckles? ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by onenerdykid
If you want the boot to wrap around your forefoot you need boa!Quote:
Originally Posted by MCskid
I need the marketing tell me why I need boa on the cuff.
All the utube gear vlogger gonna tell me next autumn how it works and why! Can’t wait for the explanation why cuff boa is better and how my skiing is benefiting from cables pulling my shell thight.
I guess the hoji lock might have similar benefits to cuff boa???
You could always try them on and feel for yourself?Quote:
Originally Posted by twat
Listen, I’m as grumpy, old and surly as anyone on here and I ain’t got a dog in this fight but if Tom built a kick a** boot, put both buckles and boa on it, let the pro’s decide which one was better and they all said boa then I figure there’s got to be something to it. Hence my question for Nerd, I’m interested in hearing why Atomic put buckles on their kick a** boot instead of boa. I get that change can be hard for us old farts, “why should I change my depends when I can just sit here in my sh**!” but Tom’s already said you can get a ZipFit in boa so I don’t see what your all so p***ed about.Quote:
Originally Posted by twat
I’d like to try it honestly. The more I think about it, I think it could be a good application and I seldom mess with my cuff buckles after I get them buckled.
it is not about being grumpy it is about taking the piss of some marketing bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by MCskid
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