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not sure how you qualify "real job" but I make a bit more than $8.00 and hour, and I am not collecting unemployment every spring and fall....Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunion 2020
I also dont spew for 30 pages about my job and the things that customarily go with it like you & buzz have here about tipping people in the food industry. So who's pointless?!?
From my limited experience, in Austria, you had to badger them them 2 to 3 times to get the bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by dcpnz
Man love you man but reading comprehension. This was not about tipping the food industry people. They always get their 20%. Regardless of how stupid the system is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsy
Right over your head................ Not that you are pointless but the argument is pointless. ETA: 7 posts is hardly 30 pages of spewing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsy
Back on point I’m so tired of tipflation.
Tips are for service. Taking an order and handing me a paper bag or cup is not really service in the traditional sense.
If I do get quality meals to go, that’s 10%. The cashier and cooks can split it. The other 10% would have been server that brought me food and drink and made me feel special.
But a coffee? To go? Fuck off.
PS. Most states have lower minimum wages for servers. That’s for a reason. Stupid though it may be. You can’t pay a line cook or even a backwaiter that same shitty wage.
Silverthorne Friday concert, employees (town?) at the canned alcohol tent handing you cans of beer or cider or seltzer at $10/can. How much would like to tip? 15%? 20%? or 25%? I'm going to give you $2.50 for handing a me a fucking can? How about ZERO
It’s fucked. If they took 3 seconds and poured you a draft would you tip? Or if they poured the can in a glass? At a bar you would probably tip and not think twice but at a tent it’s different?Quote:
Originally Posted by summit
I’m not arguing either way, everything is so nuanced and double standards galore.
A dollar a beer.
Sanity prevailsQuote:
Originally Posted by yeahman
Yeah, $1 per beer is min.
Min and max. Doesn't matter if the beer is $4 or $14. Dollar a beer is a fair tip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted Striker
Agree. But what I was getting at is if it's a cash situation, I'm not pocketing the coins, so it's that plus a single.
Just so you know I too do the dollar a beer. I feel I have to explain things now in here. At a bar, they get their 20%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsy
$1 if they're on it enough to give me a five and five ones back from my $20. Maybe $2 if it's the third or fourth beer and the person handing over the can is cute.Quote:
Originally Posted by summit
$0 if they hand back a ten, because I'm definitely not tipping $10 on a can from a tent.
Hence the reliance on an iPad and digital currency to pay the bill these daysQuote:
Originally Posted by anotherVTskibum
Dunno, seemed a fairly intuitive strategy whenever I slung drinks or whatever back when a wrist calculator on your watch was peak math geek. If I wanted a tip and the customer was on their first round, I always split the change as much as possible, make it easy on the mark,er, I mean client. Had to manage the float a bit carefully early in the night, but the tip glass filled much more reliably.
Betcha most servers these days don’t have a clue what a float even is.
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Originally Posted by yeahman
What if the beers cost a buck?Quote:
Just so you know I too do the dollar a beer. I feel I have to explain things now in here. At a bar, they get their 20%.
Ha, those days are gone as far as I know. But I remember $1 pitchers on Friday afternoons at the Library in Missoula back in the 80s. I'd tip a buck on a dollar pitcher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunion 2020
Unless you open a tab.Quote:
Originally Posted by yeahman
You and a buddy have a total of 8, $8 beers = $64 tab.
I’d tip $13
But if i sat there and paid for each single beer in cash I’d tip $1 per beer.
Hmmm, I just found a way to save $5….
We've been suffering from serious beerflation post pandemic. Typical pint in this town is $7 plus.
Yeah...I've pretty much thrown percentages out the window when it comes to tipping these days. It's too skewed and has nothing to do with the actual service provided.Quote:
Originally Posted by AK47bp
I saw this at a self checkout at Sky Harbor airport last month. No fucking tip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thaleia
It's best to tip up front when buying beers, lest in your alcoholic stupor you miscalculate by a decimal place or two when it's time to settle up.
Not satisfied with your service?Quote:
Originally Posted by teletripper
I picked up two pizzas from the local pizza place Friday- cost before tip was $48.
I paid online and the online checkout system was promoting for a 20% top for a pick up order. I did a custom $4 tip- like is it that much work for the guy at the counter to grab my pizza and hand it to me? How on earth should that earn a 20% tip. I feel like $4 for 10 seconds of work is more than enough.
Pre-covid, I don't think there was much of an expectation of tipping for pick up order. During Covid shutdowns there was a push to tip for pickup orders because you couldn't eat in person. But now I'm kind of at a loss.
What is a reasonable tip for a pick up order?
To bring it full circle, when the wait staff was making $2.35 per hour, yeah tips made a lot of sense. But when I was hand tossing pizzas as a teen, I didn't get any cut of the tip jar. I never agreed with the $2 p/h and that's why I ditched that as a job before I got out of school. Now you have teenage Starbucks baristas making $20p/h aka $40k per year but the same tip logic is supposed to apply? Plus if the place is adding house gratuity etc on top of the inflated base price? I bet the small restaurants will milk it a while and then we'll see some going the other way. ie Casa Bonita nipping the whole tip portion of the equation.
Consumers have an uphill battle because the house and its staff both benefit from a tipping policy. NPR had a good segment on the other week talking about the issue. One piece of the puzzle I didn't know about is the difference in tax burden between tipping vs no tipping policies. One restauranteur said his monthly tax burden under a tipping policy was multiple thousands less than under a no tipping policy.
Gramercy Tavern was notable for its no tipping policy for a number of years. It was fantastic. But, even they relented and went back to tipping.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/20/d...r-no-tips.html
I thought a pickup order where something was made for you should be max 10%.
Pre-made is 0%
Good buddy of mine was a professional bartender. That was his job and he was good at it although at times he was a little embarrassed to be a 50+ year old bartender.
The place he worked was mostly staffed by an never-ending rotation of young folks coming and going and he had been there 20+ years. We talked about his money situation quite a bit at times and what he was taking home VS what he was declaring. He made excellent money from tips and his base wage up until around 2010/12and for various reasons people smarter than me can explain his take home began to fall behind the rising costs of living.
I salivate at the mention of the name Gramercy Tavern. Best Restaurant Week meal I ever had.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazderati
From $2-$5. You were right in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevo
I get this feeling the TRGs are being used for news story subjects (just like the upstates thread).
https://www.npr.org/2023/06/28/11848...nd-tip-flation
https://www.thestreet.com/restaurant...hts-on-tipping
https://www.npr.org/2023/07/05/11851...inflation-tips
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/05/etiq...ot-to-tip.html
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tiplfla...tips-backlash/
All articles are since this thread started and all mention tipflation. Coincidence? No
How much am I supposed to tip the Budtender at a dispensary ?
No matter what I buy they get a tip.
Shop up the street is selling 1/2 GR pre-rolls for 6 bucks. They get a buck just because.
Another shop up the street is owned by a cadre of Lesbians. Supper nice and good product.
Didja know 4-corners has the highest concentration of dispensaries in the US.
Couple a bucks each time. There’s a $3 state fee here in top of your purchase so there’s always a few dollar bills left over from whatever the bill came to. Theirs.
I wish West would open up a shop. But I bet proximity to YNP, where it is still a federal offense, has something to do with why not. Just a guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunion 2020
today I was buying bacon at the local butcher shop and the M/C asked me for a tip but i think it was a misteak, buddy took the m/c back and fiddled with it
I see what you did there, and it was a painfully undercooked joke.
There is a dispensary in West Yellowstone. It’s owned by a friend of mine. How do you live in Jackson and not know about this ?Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
https://lonepeakcannabiscompany.com/...t-yellowstone/
Utah rosin is 2x that price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry
Flower is $10 more an eighth here.
Why aren’t you buying off the black market, you square?
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