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The early 90's I was still in HS and going to hard core shows in NYC and around dirty Jersey.
The Wetlands was my favorite spot to see shows. I had some great times being very young and free hanging out in NYC. I don't imagine many parents in Jersey let their kids go run around the city like that these days.
I got to see the last Pink Floyd tour at the old Yankee Stadium, 93 I think.
I got to see the Dead with Jerry 3 times. I wasn't a fan at that time but my gf was. I feel very fortunate to have seen them now. Even though I wasn't a huge fan then the day he passed sticks out as a monumental and very sad day. It's up there with 9/11 as far as memories and historical events go.
Started ski bumming in 94/95. One winter at the Big Mountain then off to Steamboat the next season. Arrived on New Years Eve in the Boat as the snow started that day and barely stopped all month for the legendary Big January where some 260-ish inches fell. I was hooked.
Disco Inferno. The bar sort of above and next to the Tugboat? I can't remember the name right now. Tubing the Yampa and Hail Bob over the Hot Springs while being ripped on shrooms. Beautiful tits shining like chrome moly under the star filled sky.
I got to Jackson fall of 98 so I had one good year before the boundaries opened and the hype train blew the place up. That was rad. January 99 was walk on trams and instant refills in RS all day long and what seems like all month long. 550 inch season that year, I became hooked again.
The Cabin and Tuesdays at the Rancher. Pizza and breakfast Mcollisters at The VC. No one ever went to the Cowboy back then! And of course, The Coach. I worked as a door man/bouncer there my first season. Bette would give me whiskey and cokes all night long while I sat by the door and flirted with pretty girls. That was it. That was my job. It's comical really. Meeting Newt and having him take me under his wing and get me stoked to push myself beyond my comfort zone. The first day we met was on the Sublette chair and we both dropped under the ropes and into Alta Zero that same day. Alta Zero was a regular warm up line for me, I loved throwing that rope over my head and rolling out on to that little face while hearing the chair riders erupt into hoots and hollers!
The 90's were rad.
Sorry, I should have been more specific “G Love was a prime example of 90s white musicians who appropriated Black music style and culture, similar to Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit and Vanilla Ice. While the rolling stones and beattles had previously copied black music, at least they had musical talent and were not douchebag skidmore drop outs”Quote:
Originally Posted by AK47bp
is that more accurate for you?
A scathing takedown of G. Love was not on my radar when I started my day.
“Cultural appropriation is cool as long as it’s done with art that I like”
Thought he just liked cold beverages?Quote:
Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
I read some article way back that hinted at the “rap” thing, but in the same way they called Beck rap. The article basically argued that he was Beck (before beck was beck) and just couldn’t pull it off as well. Not sure I agree, but I’d be lying if I didn’t say I’d rather listen to a g love album now than a Beck album
Weather in the 90's was better too. Not like, the actual weather, but the forecasting. What it was gonna be like out this weekend was a much bigger mystery back then. Plans needed to be made and events happen no matter what. People had to make do. There was less whining about the weather. At least from what I remember.
Also a Big Mac combo was $3.99. And they had pizza. "The concorde of pizza ovens," is how the commercial described it.
Also, concordes were the coolest thing in the skies to me. But now the Unicorn man will bitch that this wasn't actually a 1990's aircraft, and I don't care he can eat a bag of dicks.
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Of course to each their own, but I've always enjoyed Beck. When Odelay was released it was a big part of the soundtrack for that summer before heading off to undergrad.
Hell of a showman too.
I got to see Beck and The Roots when they were touring to support Midnite Vultures (sleaziest rock ever and awesome), and The Roots Come Alive albums, respectively, in '99. If you haven't, give that Roots album a listen start to finish; it's fucking fantastic.
You sound fun.Quote:
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Nobody said g love was good.
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The 90's had some amazing iconic events as well. I remember watching this with friends on someone's "Black Box" descrambler. "Did he just BITE him???"
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...and why is that guy in the crowd wearing sunglasses?
I used to enjoy beck, but got to the point where he was so overplayed I would immediately change station/etc whenever I heard him. I don’t know that he held up for my musical tastes in any way outside of pure nostalgia.Quote:
Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
And the Roots album(s) were phenomenal.
Beattles and Stones grew up working class. The experience of the Black blues musician resonated with them and there is authenticity to what they produced (which is why it changed the music and cultural landscape).Quote:
Originally Posted by mcphee
G Love grew up on banking lawyer money.
Bringing it back to the 90s, The Beastie Boys would not have produced the music they did it they had started their music career as Skidmore dropouts living at daddy’s house in tony South Hill neighborhood.
That’s why lots if Black people listen to the Beastie Boys. And not a lot listen to G Love. He’s a punk ass derivative trust funder (and apparently sucks at poker too).
Feels like we need an example. I always liked Rodeo Clowns, the collaboration between Jack Johnson and G. LoveQuote:
Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
I can appreciate that. If you're ever bored and looking to validate/disprove your thoughts on him, give the album Colors he released a few years back. Easily his best album since Odelay in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyCarter
And I think I'm gonna crank up that Roots album this evening.
Roots were so fucking good live. One of the best shows I ever saw Roots and Outkast. Bombs over Baghdad blew my mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
So he fucked your girlfriend?Quote:
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I think it's important to differentiate artists by time period. Just as some folks feel Metallica peaked in the mid 80's, others feel it was later than that. Bands have eras, artists change over time. If they put new art out during the decade, they were an artist of that decade. The 90's were when Aerosmith went from bluesy rock band to rock ballads. Michael Jackson went from black music star to white weirdo.Quote:
Originally Posted by MontuckyFried
I don't remember just how many copies of Romeo + Juilet soundtrack were floating around, but that soundtrack was a wild journey and every girl had it. Garbage, Everclear, Butthole Surfers, The Cardigans, Radiohead and others. Somehow it worked.Quote:
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And a shoutout to Sublime. Not sure how they managed to be left out of the discussion on a ski forum for 12 pages, but they made ska/punk/rap/reggae work. Not bad for some gringos from Long Beach. Maybe don't bag on white rappers too much. Shitty rap knows no color: Kriss Kross and Hammer were 90's too.
“Cultural appropriation is cool as long as your parents struggled to buy you musical instruments”
I'm sure George could afford his own sitarQuote:
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This thread is a darker place for having you in it.Quote:
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Sublime was another big part of my late 90's soundtrack. They'll come on the radio and I'll think, man, I haven't listened to these guys in years, and then go and binge a whole album.Quote:
Originally Posted by Not DJSapp
Whole album.
https://youtu.be/ACGu-JL7jLY
Same.
https://youtu.be/LfluICo7tPY
Dude no, Linkin Park wasn’t 90s. Hybrid Theory wasn’t released until 2000 and Meteora wasn’t until 2003. They weren’t even known as Linkin Park until 1999 (they were known as Xero and Hybrid Theory before then and really only released a couple short demo tapes).Quote:
Originally Posted by mbeffb
Contrast with Smashmouth (Fush Yu Mang in 1997, Astro Lounge in 1999), Eminem (Infinite 1996, Slim Shady EP 1997, Slim Shady LP 1999).
For a lot of Black folks, they don’t really love: “darker place”, “black hole”, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by zion zig zag
Just something to think about if you are traveling outside of Utah sometime. Maybe just say “this place is worse for having you in it”.
And Sublime was an amazing group. They’re definitely in the echelon of Beastie Boys and “the white half of Bob Marley”.
Sublime is the perfect rock band paradox. If they’d not partied so hard and been so drugged up, they could have made more music and been more successful, but if they did that would their music be as good as it was?Quote:
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All this Sublime talk and no music.
Soundtrack to my HS days.
https://youtu.be/e1dPKfxRhk0
Sublime nailed the appropriation in this one.
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A hearty LOL over here.Quote:
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In the late 90s I drove this, but with more stripes that had been added by the previous owner.Quote:
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When my cousin first saw it, he said it looked like something Beck would drive, thus The Beckmobile was born. I said it had two camshafts and a microphone, but only a few people got it. Midnight Vultures was still in the cassette deck when I gave it to a friend, who drove it right up to the day it finally succumbed to Toyota's mortal enemy: Fe₂O₃
Two decades later, Beck would still get nostalgic about 80s Toyotas (take that Hyundai!)
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Exactly! You say “nailed the appropriation”, I say “brought authenticity”. Sublime doesnt pull off the brilliance of “April 29, 1992” if they weren’t from Long Beach.Quote:
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Beastie Boys don’t pull off the brilliance of Shadrach (Paul’s Boutique came out in ‘89, but that still counts as 90s right?) if they weren’t from Brooklyn.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MEVfHmjKOrM
Now this is a fantastic post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted Striker
On an unrelated note, is anyone else getting the vibe that Benny has joined the chat here? WTF?
Hey mbeffb, was your dad a machinist or did he own a machine shop?
Beastie boys where Manhattan school boy retards who just happened to be in the thick of a musical revolution occuring in NYC. They didn't live in poverty or anything remotely close to it. They are legit talented but they started with just following the advice of cool kids at NYU and going to shows every day when the music scene was amazing in NYC. Read their book it's amazing how lucky they were.
90s were great. I remember in NJ getting a mixed tape with my Echo Tshirt I bought at a shop that you could buy wax, Montana spray, and the African jewelry that fell out of style quickly. Spoken word was hot back then. Used to go watch slam poets occasionally. I bounced around a few of the counter culture scenes. Artists are a fun crowd but damn do they have their extreme highs and lows.
https://youtu.be/LnfaaFJLSI8
I stand corrected on Mike Diamond and Ad Rocks background. I’m more familiar with Adam Yauch (he did grow up in brooklyn and he was on scholarship at his hs).
A lot of the Riot Grrrl bands out of Olympia used to play in Seattle in the '90s. L7, Sleater-Kinney, Heavens to Betsy, Seven Year Bitch, The Gits (RIP Mia Zapata), and of course Bikini Kill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOCWma5vOiQ
"Like the rest of the Beastie Boys, Yauch was born into a middle class, Jewish, New York family, growing up in Brooklyn as the son of an architect and a public school administrator."Quote:
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So, sort of like Nas? Mad street cred that lends so much to the music.....
Umm Nas was born to a musician father who introduced him to loads and loads of influencal music. He was trained to understand the beat but to just feel it not classical style writing.
So yeah not like Nas. Thinking of someone else?
What's next? Tacoma recommendations?Quote:
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He's trying to teach us about how background and youth living situation influences musical credibility. Nas grew up in Queens-bridge projects. Try to keep up.Quote:
Originally Posted by simple