A strip of gorilla tape along the inside spine of your boot, plus a spritz of silicone spray, is all you need. Also saves you from needing to remember one more thing to bring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
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A strip of gorilla tape along the inside spine of your boot, plus a spritz of silicone spray, is all you need. Also saves you from needing to remember one more thing to bring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
I use a “Boot E-Z”. Hand crafted by Steve Bagley…
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Here is Steve's email address: sbrandonbagley@gmail.com
I sent an inquiry. I'll post if I get a reply.
The gorilla tape rolled up and smeared pretty quickly.
I’d suggest just calling Christy Sports at Snowbird.
https://www.snowbird.com/rental-and-...hristy-sports/
Yes. Makes it easy to get in and out and cuts down on friction damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Don't Surf
Ski a head raptor WCR 140S 27.5 sized down x2 for a nice snug fit. I have normal feet, and probably slightly skinny legs? I bought a gara LV one size up 28.5 as the 27.5 murdered my toes when I tried it on.
I’ve done 3 rounds of heating up/fitting and here is where I’m at:
1) to get the liner into the boot on foot, I need to warm up my liner, put it on and lace it up tight, and FORCE it in the shell.
2) to close the boot I have to CRANK it down on the lower 2 buckles, and then push the upper cuff together with my hands as I struggle to latch the buckles together and then CRANK those down as well.
3) at this point with the boot barely closed up, I flex the warm liner in the shell a bit and while I don’t have a specific paint point besides the top of my foot it just feels SUPER tight everywhere.
4) after 10 minutes of flexing and walking around my food is completely numb and starts to ache so I take off the boot.
I’m all for a little pain to get that magic zipfit lockdown but at this point I can’t fathom skiing more than one run before having to tear my boots off. Feels like it forcing things beyond what will be tolerable for the shell and foot I have.
Is this “normal” or should I consider the even lower volume liner the Corsa while I can still return the gara Lv’s.
Anyone have experience with one or the other (or both?) where it was this difficult/ painful to start?
I found lacing the liner up *tight* cut the circulation off. Lacing it up snugly, but not tight, was the proper move. Seems counterintuitive, but seemed to work best.
I'd probably go Corsa and order a bazillion omfit tubes. My feet are 278mm in 26 raptors, probably a pretty normal foot. Need sixth toe and bunion punches, but otherwise decently comfortable. Corsas in 27.5 with four tubes of cork in each. Dialed now.Quote:
Originally Posted by RadSkier_
Still think the cuff of the raptors is stupidly large volume, but I had to disregard everything ONK said about them.
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I'm in the same Raptor 25.5 (tight shell fit) and using the new Corsa 26.5.Quote:
Originally Posted by RadSkier_
I had the Zipfit World Cup Sidewinder model 25.5 in my previous shell, and it was great. When I picked up the Raptors, however, it didn't seem there was any way the WCSW would fit so I purchased the Corsa, also in a 25.5. Problem was it was quite a bit shorter than the WCSW, so I exchanged the 25.5 Corsa for a 26.5.
I have the combo of skinny ankles and big calves, and for me the Raptor/Corsa combo is a winner. It has taken a lot of playing around (adding, removing, moving cork), but each day they get better and better. Plus, I am a big proponent of the all-leather interior.
The Raptors are notorious for being a pia, but the performance makes them worth it for me. You might want to try the Corsa and it may solve all your problems.
Edited to add: Yeah, I have something like 5 tubes of OMFIT in each of my Corsas! Buy a bunch while they are in stock!
Have Corsa in my Raptors, I think 5 tubes each as well. Liner and shell sized the same. Might need to add a little more! That many tubes is pricey
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Ha, I finally did today. No way I was doing a parking lot bootup. And I survived to tell the tale! You may have me converted.Quote:
Originally Posted by waxman
I cant drive with my boots on, (forgetting safety, etc.) my legs and boots do not fit in the footwell of my vehicle. Instead I wear the liners, and have used shoe covers, like old men use for their dress shoes, to keep the liner protected. So far has worked like a charm.Quote:
Originally Posted by gwat
5 tubes!?!?!? In each boot!?!? That sounds so expensive hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by The Iron Horse
So, should I expect a huge change from initial fit to how they feel after 3 days in the corsa/raptor combo?
Going to pick up Corsas tonight at the ski shop and will do a home fitting. I really hope I can make one of the liners work - I want in on that zipfit bliss!
It took me eight days to begin to find boot Nirvana.
The first three were so painful I almost quit the course.
Soon happy I finally got them dialed.
Boothorn works great; don't waste time trying to make one yourself out of gallon jugs, etc. they aren't as slippery . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
I highly recommend shortening the break-in time by wearing them around the house after you do the initial fit process. If you have sole covers, great, you can just walk around and do your normal stuff. My feet tend to blister easily whenever I change to a new shoe, so this avoids that issue for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by RadSkier_
I'd say three days is normal for that "Aha!" feeling. After that, I think they just keep improving, eventually reaching the point where they disappear and you just don't think about them anymore.
What are you guys paying for tubes of cork at a shop? What do you pay for fitting the liner and and having more cork installed if you bought it at a store?
Sounds like it’s a lot more expensive than we do it. Haha
About $7usd/tube. In Norway, importing from Denmark.
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Fitted the liner myself, bought all the tubes from Zipfit. Full freight.
Do my own liner fitting (shells are done by the pro) and buy the OMFIT direct from Zipfit. Their stock tends to wax and wane, so I keep some extra tubes on hand.
I do have a bunch of empties I need to do something with. Perhaps someone is looking to cook up their own formula and needs some tubes. Or I guess I should write to Zipfit and see if they want to reuse them.
Fernie here. If you buy the liners from us we do the heat, mold, initial fit all included. Tubes are 12$CDN and again if if you bought the liners from us we'll do the injection etc included.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenBC
Bought somewhere else 60$ to go on the stacks and do the heat, mold, initial fit.
gwat maybe the winner in the cork tube lottery but he dadsized his boots now that he's old and used more than usual.
Yep, these work great. I also feel like it will greatly reduce the friction wear at the rear of the sold on the liner from going in and out of the shells so many times.Quote:
Originally Posted by spanky
Haha, get ready cuz I’m coming in for a couple more tubes!Quote:
Originally Posted by waxman
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Originally Posted by The Iron Horse
I tired on the Corsa’s tonight at the ski shop. Those things are super low volume and I would need 5+ tubes in each liner to make them snug in my shells. Quick math puts me at about $200 in cork for both boots ($20 a tube in Canada) so I think the route is to deal with the Gara LV that feels like it barely fits in my shell for now and just break it in and remove cork as I go.
It will be a leap of faith to think that what feels super tight and toe-numbing now will eventually be zipfit bliss but I’m willing to take that risk and hope for the best. Wish me luck!!!
I had the same experience with my Zips. I thought I made a mistake, feet were tingly for the first 4-5 days. It’s amazing how that cork finds its way. I had instep issues with the lower volume Cochise stock liner, and somehow the Gara HV is perfect in that area. The cork will find its way.
You don’t need to crank the buckles down, it ain’t the same as your old liner.
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Originally Posted by waxman
That’s pretty similar to us.
If you get the liner from us the molding is free as is the addition of four tubes of cork.
From then on, $15 per tube injected.
If you buy elsewhere, $20 per tube and hourly rate for fitting.
Anyplace to buy cork with free shipping? I need a couple more tubes.
ZipFit has some on the site - it’s like $5 for shipping - just bought a couple of tubesQuote:
Originally Posted by carlh
This is the tape you want, pricey yes, but 3 seasons in - still there. On spine and boot board. Liner goes right in like…….well you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by meepmoop24
UHMW/PTFE type Tape on Amazon
I thought I read somewhere that slippery tape on the boot board was a bad idea, is it not?Quote:
Originally Posted by givethepigeye
if anyone ends up with not totally clapped out 26.5 GFT they're interested in offloading, give me a shout.
Tape goes on the spine of the boot so the heel has less resistance. Tuck tape (vapour barrier tape) on top of gorilla tape works the best. Gorilla tape for durable backing, tuck tape for slipperiness.Quote:
Originally Posted by DigSki
Ah that makes sense, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenBC
I use boot horns but have a big friction point at my toe (Salomon S/Pro Alpha, very low instep), so I tried a little bit of UHMW tape on the toe of the liner. It peels off after a couple days. I'll try a Gorilla tape underneath the UHMW and if that doesn't work I think I'll scoop some Tuck
Had that fancy slippery tape on for a couple of years. A little on the spine of boot, covering the bolts for flex and spoiler, then some on the boot board so my foot (in ZipFit liner) goes right in. Boots are pretty tight fit, so never notice any movement
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I covered just the bolts with clear gorilla tape
Sweet, thanks for the info, I'll keep tinkering. FWIW, I'm mostly just worried about wearing out the toe of the liner, it's not actually very hard to get (shells under my heater on the drive up + boot horn)Quote:
Originally Posted by givethepigeye
So picked up some Garas and the fit is great but damn are they cold. What heaters do I need? Running custom insoles if that matters.
I'm planning on therm-ic 1700Bs, but have to do it in the off season. Paging @philpug !Quote:
Originally Posted by oldblue
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There’s a lot of information in the ski talk zipfit thread, I would look there.
https://www.skitalk.com/threads/whic...t.9876/page-94