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Bandit Man
I skied my K108's in 12-18" of super light snow on top of a very firm/icy crust. It is fair to say that I did feel the edge dig into that icy layer below right under foot more quickly than when I was skiing the same conditions two days earlier on the Cochise 106. So, yeah...not hooky but the ski definitely engages more readily and actively in those steep, firm conditions. I can see where that may be off-putting for some styles. Because of this, the Cochise 106 feels more agile and easier to throw around/change direction. The odd thing is that the minute I decide to point it and charge the pow with that funky crust underneath, the Katana becomes the better ski, as it floats better, is more damp, and just crushes the irregularities in the snow conditions. Then you get it one to a groomer and it just cruises effortlessly.
I do wonder what would happen if they opened up the sidecut of the K108 under foot. Since the 191 is 21-m under foot, maybe I just need one of those?
And that’s the reason I much prefer my K108 over my Rustler 11. They ski most powder as well as the Rustlers and handle hard/icy snow much better. The other day I skied my OG Bodacious, OG Cochise, and my K108 in a few inches of dense powder on top of bulletproof groomers. On the K108 I could make turns where I never made contact with the underlying hard snow. Floating in 2-3”. It wasn’t possible with the other two pair unless I straight lined it.
Got them out in 16” of powder at Winter Park today. Will definitely not ski my Rustler 11s anymore. Just handles so easily in untracked and cut up chop, you start to feel your cheating. I think the long radius in the front keeps them from hooking or getting deflected. Now I want to try the M102s.
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kc_7777
Hahaha
One day banditman we are gonna have beers at Whistler.
On me.
Just cause you are a quiver god.
Well played.
In reality, I’m not much of a drinker, but looking forward to a day when I am able to migrate to the north and take some laps with you and some of the other Whistler Mags. The 191’s will crave some turns in the WB alpine.
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Also at Corbett's for $569.99CDN in a 177cm. I had the 177cm M102. Measured 179cm.
https://www.corbetts.com/2021-volkl-katana-108-skis/
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Corbett’s is always the best price IMO.
Haven’t skied the K108s but I’m sure this applies..... I skied the 2020 M102s for a month. Unbeatable.... on piste. So solid. Ripping down early morning groomers I was the fastest I have been in years. No speed limit. My buddies would just shake their heads, and say that I was gonna kill myself. The M102s ripped.
But....
That was just for two groomer runs in the am, and then the alpine would open. Whenever I spent a whole day on the M102s I found my self wanting my R11s or Enforcer 104s? Cause in sketchy entrances, or super tight, very steep areas, I found the M102 not pivoty enough at times. Cause the stiff, less-rockered tails wouldn’t release quick enough for me (now maybe that’s on me cause I went +0.5cm from the front Volkl line = +2.5cm from rec = too much tail?).
So ya the M102 can ski fast. But it needs you to be on, for most of the time. I’m a good skier, but sometimes I’m lazy, or shit scared cause the shit we ski can be steep and the entrances are definitely “no fall” zones. I always found the R11 and E104 to be stable enough, yet way quicker, less work and generally more enjoyable in gnarly situations than the M102s. I’m sure the K108s would be similar. But that being said, once in open terrain I totally see a use for the M102 or K108.
KC
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My theory has always been to buy good skis at good prices....eg a K108 for $569cdn meets that criteria!
Ski it 5-10 days and if you don’t like it then sell it for a loss....say $400 Cdn ($300US) and you’ve lost $150-$200.....or ~$15-$20 per day which is cheaper than demoing.
And then you know for sure. It’s a cost of loving gear. And if you’re worried about the money, cut $200 out of your expenses somewhere else.
I’m probably dumb enough to buy some K108s one day. Haha
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Shorty_J
You make good points... and I appreciate your enabling even if my wife doesn't. [emoji6]
My only worry would be trying to resell these in theb177 length.... but you didn't seem to have issues selling your M102 I the same length so maybe my concerns are unwarranted.
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The impression on tgr is that only big skis sell. Probably true to some extent. But I’ve sold lots of 179-182cms on here, eBay or Craigslist or Facebook marketplace. List on all places. If they’re good skis in demand I think they will sell.
If you’re willing to price right? I sold my M102s for $450CDN. I had previously paid $569CDN + 5% sales tax at Corbetts so was $597CDN all in. So I lost about $150CDN. But I knew that going in. Worst case is I would have gotten $400....and lost $200, or just kept them. YMMV
Do it!
