Get one lounger. Just one. It’s nice to have.
And code is shutoff at least five feet from the tub. My gfci is there. Wonder if it’s going to last long being in an outside box?
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Get one lounger. Just one. It’s nice to have.
And code is shutoff at least five feet from the tub. My gfci is there. Wonder if it’s going to last long being in an outside box?
just replaced our last tub, +15 yrs old. could have replaced another controller, new heater and eventually the 5th pump BUT i wanted the foot mushroom jet thingy at the bottom. i fucking love my foot mushroom jet thingy. so nice
I spent 10k (12y ago) on a top of the line bullfrog spa with 2 loungers and 2 pumps and I continue to be very happy with it. If you’re gonna get a spa tub don’t fuck around with single pump wimpy models. Go big and stay home.Quote:
Originally Posted by shroom
Any opinions on Bullfrog hot tubs? Just cause I might have an in on getting one at a decent price.
It seems like everyone you talk to has a different take on what's best. I just want high build quality, low maintenance, with a few jets. I have a lot of friends in the HT line of work but everyone says every brand but the one they sell sucks. ugh.
I'm a hot springs honk. I got the one that sat empty on the showroom floor when the new models came in, it was at a great discount. They still do 'last years model' sales every year.
Anyway. +1 salt water system. +1 for the lounger and +1 for the mushroom foot jet thing.
had a couple minor mechanical failures, but the Hot Springs dealer came next day, and has thus far covered all under warranty. It's a 3 person Jetsetter, and I think I spent <10k (8 maybe? I could look)
Life changing.
appreciate the discussion.
I realized I am near arctic spas US center and went in. I like build quality, not sure on their propriety pumps. parts and maint should be quick for me but guessing expensive. gonna check out hot spring* (edit) next but don’t love the local dealer.
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See my post directly above yours. Bullfrog is made in Utah and the modular design of the jetpack seats allows for a minimal amount of tubing in the tub itself w the seat itself holding much of the tubes and workings of the seat. If a seat has a problem you just pull the seat and get it repaired or replace. Had to do that twice over the years and it was a simple swap at a reasonable price. I have no complaints on the bullfrog tub.Quote:
Originally Posted by Name Redacted
There is Hot Spring and Hot Springs. They are different.
Ha, thanks, I even read your post, but didn't realize you were talking about the Bullfrog. duhQuote:
Originally Posted by jmedslc
I had the same thoughts about their design. The jet pack pods seem like a good idea.
We have a bullfrog, prolly the cheapest smallest one, and it’s been fine.
Again I STRONGLY recommend if you get a bullfrog, get one with 2 motors. I’ve seen and been in many one motor versions and compared to mine with 2, it’s a drastic difference in the therapeutic benefits of jet massage.Quote:
Originally Posted by plugboots
pics as requested
HotSpring Limelight Flash variety
7 person 360 gal, no loungers, 3 pumps, saltwater capable (trying it, new to me), lotta jets. dealer installed was $15K. over ~3 months I failed to find any ‘deal’/discount near 10K OTD and caved.
questions if you have them
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I was in the local hot tub (and everything else) place to get chemicals the other day. Yep, hot tubs have gotten very very pricey, like everything else. (Including chemicals. Maybe it's a supply chain thing--do spa chemicals travel from Ohio by train?)
My 1996 Sundance cameo is on borrowed time. The builder installed the tub and then poured retaining walls around 3 sides, added a post to support the roof (part of the whole roof) on top of the retaining wall corner. Can’t get to 3 sides to work on plumbing….which is getting brittle. Gonna be a bitch to replace.
Give usa TR when you have sum tub time under yor belly button.
see the furnace removal thread for suggestions.Quote:
Originally Posted by detrusor
In the market for a new hot tub as well. Current one is a Diamante Mojave from 2002 and on it's last leg (heater is about to go/barely works, 3 of the 4 pumps are dead). We use it all the time. Issue I have is my current tub is set into my deck (previous owner install). Interior access to fix stuff is a PITA (pretty much have to crawl in) and the panel must be located on one side of the tub. Also forces me only look at 92"x92" models. Then I'll also need a big ass crane for the swap. Fuck me.
Anyhow, going to check out Wind River down in Denver. Reviews seem to be decent and they make one in 92"x92". Anyone with an old model that can speak to longevity?
Not old, but I have 1.5 years on a wind river and like it a lot so far. Look back a page or two and you'll see the results of me quizzing a few hot tub repair guys about what brands to look for and what to avoid. Wind River was in almost everybody's "brands to look for list," in large part because they use no proprietary bits and everything is off-the-rack, so replacement bits are easy to find if needed.
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Oh wow. That's nuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dshack89
I've been putting off searching for the source of our tubs leak for months now (mainly due to the cold weather. )
Anyone have tips on finding leaks prior to the Armageddon picture above?
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Only leaks I've had were from the seals at the pump intake/output. Easily repaired myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by skinipenem
Bumping this up. New to me hot tub at our new house. Pretty darn hard well water. Not sure what chemistry they were using by like a dummy I started adding Dichlor "sanitizer" and didn't realize that CYA would get out of control. So now I have to partially drain. I may be right around freezing or a bit warmer today. Seems silly but can I drain while I add to keep the pump running?
When I did property management all the tubs at the nice houses were "sof soak" I think. Can I switch to this without a complete drain?
I keep the pump running for up to a half water change.
You really don't have to worry. I used to conduct complete drain/fills on my hot tubs in MT all the time and it was never an issue. Unless it's like below 0, the innards are pretty well insulated and hold enough heat from the water you just drained to get you through until you refill. I'd toss in 2 utility pumps and would get that bastard drained in like 5 minutes, giving me plenty of time to get to scrubbing out the shell, then refill and get the pumps and heat back on. Whole process didn't take long enough for anything to freeze.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
If it was TRULY cold outside like those times it doesn't get above 0 for like a month straight, I'd leave the cover partially on to retain some heat, but could still do the whole process no problem.
That all said. Don't dick around after you drain. Get the job done and refill. It's when people accidentally forget and leave it overnight when problems happen.
I’m not sure why you would get CYA in a hot tub. It’s not in my dichlor ingredients list.
CYA is on the test strip for pools only. It reduces chlorine evaporation in the sun. You have to add it as a separate dose. Cyanuric acid. Related to cyanide. Shouldn’t be in a hot tub.
The bromine tabs dissolve in the water. The dichlor has more reactive chlorine that frees up bromine ions that oxidize the organic material.
Don’t over dichlor. One cap once a week is all I do. Unless there’s a party going down then you can dose after.
There’s an additional oxidizing shock shock that you can add as needed. Potassium monopersulfate
Have no idea how that works. But when I rented my spa guy said that was good between dichlor doses.
Change your water 4 times a year. If you changed recently, then just run it with the cover open and air jets running and test again.
PS. If you have storage, get a cheap garden hose sump pump and drain that way. It gets most of the water and it’s easier than removing the side panels to reach the drain.
PPS. Never had super hard water. I have to add calcium. But balance alkalinity and then ph. But hard water might want some salt? Worth checking a spa forum to see what to do. Hard water scales your house plumbing. It can’t be good for hot tub heaters.
Where can I get a new cover in a hurry? Can't wait 6-12 weeks.
Maybe I can get a cheap low quality one fast and then wait for a custom?
So I completely drained with a transfer pump and refilling now. Gonna try Sirona products. Local hot tub place had them and said they were great for a soft soak, low chem experience. Hopefully she heats back up pretty quick so we can soak tonight!!
Try Wayfair, got a factory one from them for my aquarest in three weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by summit
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This is the cheapest and easiest way to sanitize your hot tub. You need a little CYA, so you use a little Diclor at first and then change to liquid sodium hypochlorite.
For future reference if you can get a hose on a hot water line you can fill it about 1/3 with hot water and then switch to the cold water. I'm lucky to have a hot water drain under the bathroom sink in a separate downstairs unit that I can put a hose on that reaches the hot tub. Don't go crazy with the hot water--you don't want to go over.
I had to drain my hot tub a couple of winters ago when the power was out for 4days (I probably could have gotten away with not draining) and then refilled, temps in the teens and 20's, with no problem.
No dice.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobMc
I need a cover ASAP
Place I ordered the last one from is 6-10wk out.
Who does expedited custom or something that is adaptable and temporary?
not sure what tub, but might try crystal river spas in c'dale. 970.963.2100Quote:
Originally Posted by summit
rumor is they sometimes keep a couple on-hand
'99 Tiger River Bengal
A tarp, some bungies, and 2” poly iso should get you through the lead time…
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might try facebook marketplace someone in Grand Junction has a bunchQuote:
Originally Posted by summit
Funny, I was going to recommend the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by MiddleOfNight
Missus and I are thinking of taking the plunge. We walked into a dealer. They showed us a model that is more expensive than some new cars. Wat. They showed us a model that was made of shitty White pine lumber planks on the inside admixed with Staples(??). Also wat. They all seemed to have their own proprietary water treatment regime that was both somehow better than all the others and also depended on their proprietary replacement cartridges. There are a million different brands, some just rebranding of other brands. One of them did like a laser light show rave thing. Another one had like extra bubbles. Not regular bubbles, extra bubbles. That feature alone was worth 5K from the next level down.
My question is this: What am I really looking for in a hot tub? Needs to fit four to five people, be reasonably deep, and not immediately go to shit The second we bring it home. All for approximately 10k, maybe a little more. I've got Caldera as a recommendation. Also Marquee. Thoughts?
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Maybe Bullfrog. Or whatever Costco is selling on their website these days.
I hear you about the dealer experience. No way I am spending that kind of stupid money on a fucking hot tub that is waaay fancier than what I need. Ultimately I decided on a membership at our local hot springs instead. We're lucky to have a very nice developed hot springs nearby.
One of the Hot Spot models--the "bargain" line of Hot Springs. We've been happy with the Rhythm. Listed as 7 seats--hot tub capacities assume everyone is VERY friendly. No need for any fancy water treatment equipment if you don't mind doing a minimum of daily/weekly/monthly/yearly maintenance.
If you don’t have money to burn don’t buy new. We bought a refurbished one from a guy who buys or hauls away tubs and then fixes and cleans them. We got a four year old $16,000 msrp tub for $3,500 delivered. He even included a warranty. This allowed us to buy a top end tub like Hot Springs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Huskier
If you’re at all handy you can fix most things on a hot tub pretty easily. And the high end ones are made to be fixable and have readily available replacement parts.