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Now that's a review I can get behindQuote:
Originally Posted by greasyslope
Ok maybe I missed it but tecton + beast horseshoe insert: any problems?
Mounted these up today, went pretty smoothly. Impressed overall, seem like a solid binding. The powderguide vipec template was pretty much spot on, but the salomon Mtn lab boot center ended up being 4mm* further back than what the template indicated.
Quick question- looking st the manual, it shows there is a small plastic piece that installs kind of behind the brake. I did not see this piece in the box. The binding appears to function properly - is it possible the plastic piece was already installed and I didn't notice it?
I looked at other pictures of tectons and I can't see any difference between them and my bindings.
As discussed earlier, when the brakes deploy the black tips on the brakes barely clear the sides of the ski. (Using 110mm brakes on 110mm skis). When they are fully deployed they clear easily- it's just during the process that the clearance becomes a factor. I'd use the 110mm brakes on up to a 114mm ski I'd say. You could also bend them pretty easily if you're careful to only bend the outer part of the break arms.
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4cm behind the line on the ski?
Woof
4mm*
Zero problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by smooth operator
I ejected in tour mode on Vulcans and Tecton today. Also no problem. Even had toe lever up.
Tried to go up a too steep skintrack. Slid backward. Used crotch as a brake on trees. Binding released as desired
This picture shows the two holes just behind where the brake arms go into the binding where that plastic piece fits. You just slide it in there, and then when you put the brake on the binding the heel piece holds it in place. Prevents snow build-up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muggydude
The plastic pieces would have been in a small zip-loc bag with the bindings, maybe the same bag as the different colored inserts.
Wow, that boot toe looks like a pitoned kayak bow.
Not sure if this helps, but Lou did a breakdown narrative on Tecton brake removal, with a lot of pictures that may help answer your question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muggydude
It appears however as if the holes that @gavinski91 pointed out weren't in the prototypes Lou used for this post however.
https://www.wildsnow.com/22447/frits...emove-install/
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That piece is for the Vipec Evo rather than the Tecton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muggydude
To add to the brake size confusion, I (apparently) have 100mm brakes and was planning on bending them, but have them fitted on 118mm skis and they work fine so haven't bothered with the bending.
Is there any official word on how to set the forward pressure yet?
If you decide you'd rather have 110's, hmu. I'd much prefer to have the 100's or 90's at this point in time. Should've done more reading before pulling the trigger on 110's.Quote:
Originally Posted by gingersnowman
Go back a page or two for brake arm measurements, the arms you received must have been misboxed. There's no way a 100 brake will fit a 118 ski, my two pair of 110 brakes will fit a 116 ski only if the plastic tips are ground at an angle so they spread wider when they hit the topsheet.Quote:
Originally Posted by gingersnowman
So the tecton does not use those pieces?Quote:
Originally Posted by gingersnowman
My understanding for the forward pressure is to get the length close, and keep tightening the forward pressure screw until it is in from flush. Then back off one turn. I always adjust forward pressure without the boot in the bindings (for any binding). Click back in, check the screw's location, and repeat if necessary.
I'm sure its the same fuckery that happen with the black Vipecs. My "100mm" brake fits on 114 with no issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1000-oaks
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Originally Posted by 1000-oaks
Never mind, they are 110mm, shop guy said they were 100s and I didn't check the box. That makes sense, they brush the sides of 118mm skis but deploy fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackattack
It confused me at first too but yeah I think the Vipec uses a different brake and the Tecton does not use or come with that piece.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muggydude
IRT forward pressure, that doesn't seem right, at least on mine the screw does not get more or less flush to a noticeable degree that I can see. I just set it so the top of the cup would touch the back of the boot above the welt, then backed off a mm. Any further than that and the boot won't step in smoothly.
Could some shop rat post the actual Fritschi instructions for setting forward pressure? Please?
Seconded!Quote:
Originally Posted by telemon10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6WjFjvEKlE
Here it is, posted by Fritschi.
Brilliant! Thanks!
Just got off the phone with BD. Rep said the essentially the same thing as shown in the video - about a fingernail's thickness between boot heel and binding. More important is releasing the toe with the boot clicked in- it should come up smooth and bobble a little. Shouldn't get hung up- otherwise pressure is too high.
Also, he confirmed the Tecton does not use those extra little plastic pieces on top of the brake
Thx for posting that.Quote:
Originally Posted by gingersnowman
Have a few more days on these now and am still impressed. They tour well with easy mode changes, no major icing issues and easily engaged climbing aids. I think they ski very similarly to an alpine binding. I honestly think you'd have to have the same ski with the same tech-compatible boot on each foot clicked into a Tecton on one foot and an alpine clamp on the other to identify any difference (if it exists). My touring boots are much lighter and softer than my alpine boots, so I notice them way before I notice anything with the Tecton. I skied a couple thousand feet of re-frozen groomer tonight and didn't think about the bindings or notice any undue harshness or chatter.
I've had two partial lift-served days on mine so far. Aside from not yet quite figuring out where my boot toe needs to be to step in at the toe, they've been performing just fine—no unwanted releases, nor any instances where a release seemed like it would've been helpful, and I've not noticed any performance issues on groomed or ungroomed snow.
FWIW, I'm running them on a Sego Bighorn 96 with Lange Freetour XT 130s, and my other days since the lifts started turning this year have all been on alpine bindings.
I have used the Tectons for 7 lift-served days thus far. No issues to report.
Easy to use. Power transmission is good. No releases. No falls where I would have wanted the bindings to release. IMO, only noticeable performance difference relative alpine bindings is the lack of vibration dampening, when skiing at high speeds on rough terrain and landing jumps on hardpack.
Used on roughed up groomers at speeds up to 40 mph. Used on icy moguls. Used in the park on ~10 ft jumps. I am 5' 10", 185 lbs. Boots used include Dynafit ZZeus and Scarpa Maestrale RS 2.0.
good info, keep it coming
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Someone asked upthread if I used Tecton with Salomon Mtn Labs. I now have and report zero issues for compatiblity
I've had mine out for three days so far. Two lift-served, one skinning. No falls yet, so I can't comment on their release success/fail. Relatively easy to step into once you get the hang of the toe position. I had my daughter on my back while skinning and they toured great. Easy to maneuver the heel risers, even with 40 pounds moving around on my back.
On the descent and lift-served days, they really felt very solid. I didn't have quite the confidence in them yet to really tear it open (I'd like to fall at a moderate speed first to know that they release appropriately), but I was able to lay my skis up on edge and in general they had a very 'alpine' binding feel to them.
Usually I have a lot more days on my equipment by now, but there's just not much snow around here... I'll report back with a more detailed review once I have some more serious days on them.
I think an indentation like that on my boots would break my toes! Hope he is okay. That is some crazy torque that must have been put on them.
Keep those reports coming....mounted mine up last night on Voile V6. Took awhile to figure out how to get the brakes onto the heel piece. Hope to get out in the next few days.
Assuming you're talking about a release at the toe during a forward release (the dented Salomon boots), a bench test ought to tell you everything you need to know. With no further information, I'm subscribing to the proposed "branch theory" as far as the dented Salomon is concerned.Quote:
Originally Posted by clong
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With these, I am mainly concerned with the toe release. And it has been through a bench test. Intellectually I know that it should be fine, but I am always a bit nervous on new bindings until I've had a few falls "in the field". It may be an unnecessary fear, but then again, emotions aren't very logical.
Understood. With any new mount, I dial in a conservative setting on the carpet and then ski some inconsequential terrain - upping the RV after any unintended releases. I'm not a "set it to 16 and forget it" sorta guy either ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by clong
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New data - you can thank me for testing and I'll follow up with Fritschi for the reviewQuote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
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Design issue as the contact point on the Tecton toe lever is too high for some boot configs. In a forward fall when the toe lever is locked out and the user falls straight ahead the boot will not release and the contact bump point will dent the boot.
This test was conducted by coasting downhill with heel free and toe lever locked out then ramming ski tip into sastrugi. The toe did NOT release.
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you haven't taken off the plastic on your Fritschi logo jewel yet?
Damn! Figured the first one was an anomaly. Tectrons had been moving up my “needz” list. On the back burner now. Back to the 1st Gen list. Hope you get your boots looked after
Actually boots are fine. Damage appears cosmetic. If I had new boots though I'd probably be a tad more annoyedQuote:
Originally Posted by grinch
Shit...time for steel-toed ski boots?
Maybe a "nubbin" of some kind can be added fo the toe hump for use with certain boots.
So verdict is don't fall forward with toe locked?
Yeah that seems like a serious warranty issue. Brand new Vulcans from Fritschi?
i wonder if that would come out with a little heat?Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau