I can't remember tib/fib, but it's in the same Wildsnow article if you really want to know.
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Easy brakeless conversion if you have an old set of p12s kicking around. Remove heel plate and brakes, shorten screws, mount jacked apart p12 AFD for flat touring mode and support whilst skiing. Fits perfect. Picture is with plate still on so there is a small gap. Attachment 436158
I have about 150ish days on a pair of MTN’s.
This season I am noticing a lot of play in the heel turret. It’s a couple MM of
wobble.
I’m guessing this is just normal wear and tear but does anyone know if I remove the binding if this can be tightened down?
It happens often, solution is to remove the heel assembly and tighten it.
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Is there a solution to the brake mechanism switching to ski mode almost every time I bump the brake arm with my other ski. Happens to me multiple times per outing.
Anyone want to swap the brake-less plastic heel baseplate for a pair of 110mm MTN brakes/baseplate? I can just cut them off and mount a freeride spacer directly but that seems foolish if someone has the right brake-less baseplate and wants brakes. Thanks!
A coworker has gotten two pairs of these (atomic) from Amer with faulty heel towers where the U spring is not held in place correctly and just wiggles back and forth. Including one spectacular pre-release smashing. Both are being warrantied. Pure speculation that these should have been dealt with during the recall a few years ago but were just sitting in an Atomic warehouse instead? No idea.
Both of my pairs have been bomber, one with almost 100 days of touring on it and still going strong. But definitely snap a boot in and try and move it around before you go skiing if you pick up a new pair.
Has anybody figured out a solution for the floppy heel risers? Mine have started doing it after lots of use. It's super annoying when skinning flat, not too big a deal if you are using the riser.
I thought I saw somewhere in this thread where someone knocked the rivet out and replaced with a little bolt and nut that could be snugged down to eliminate the flop. Hopefully they’ll chime in.
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I've had moderate success with dumping some blue loctite on the riveted pin. That usually lasts for 10 -15 tours and then I have to reapply. A bit annoying but easier than replacing the pin.
It took over 100 days for the floppy heel riser issue to show up.
I did the pin replacement- It works for a little while but not a total fix. I ended up taking it apart and wedging little rubber washers between the lifters for better hold. Salomon refused to sell me new top plates and the dealer couldn’t get them either, so I decided to do my best and put them on low use skis so they don’t get many more miles.
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Thanks, I may try the loctite before I replace the pin and rivet.
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Anyone use a dynafit crampons without the centering clip? I used it without the clip and I guess it slid laterally and cracked my crampons?
This was a 100 width crampon on a 98 width ski:
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Wait, to clarify, "You DID use the centering pin and it cracked"?
No clippy thing is certain death for cramps. I think i have a 100mm single from this very thing, I’ll check tomorrow…
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In the future just buy Plum crampons for Salomon MTN and ditch the stupid clip. Probably posted somewhere already in this thread but worth mentioning.
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I have a single dynafit 120mm crampon if anyone needs one.
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I don’t recall seeing anything on this yet… has anyone else noticed that most of the new expert springs in the Mtn have a ton of lateral play? The men’s spring doesn’t. And it’s only on the 2023 model.
I believe it was the u spring in the tower. It was happening to every pair we could test, and where possible the men’s spring was tried and didn’t do it.
wow very strange.
The 23 exp springs look identical to my 2018 exp springs. I was skeptical they could introduce more play than my well used 5 y/o springs.
Lo and behold, the 23 spring added between 1-3 mm of lateral play into the heel tower rotation.
I’ll check the 23 and 18 exp springs in my wife’s brand new MTNs and report back. probably should’ve checked the play with a boot while I had the springs swapped on my bindings too
The spring is a different shape. I don't know why.
Your wife uses expert springs? I use the men's and have never come out. Also, no play in the men's spring...
I think he just swapped the EXP springs into his wife's new bindings, but I could be reading that wrong. Weird about the play in the bindings, I put a EXP spring in one pair I mounted this season and did not see any play.
Also, I finally popped out of the EXP springs for the first time this year. Took a tomahawk after reefing out on the side of a chute doing 25 mph to finally pop out, but I can confirm that you will release in extreme circumstances lol
my wife has new MTNs, hence I have new EXP springs to help you look into this.
it is a different shape, but it's very slight. slight enough I had to break out the verniers.
The widest point is 0.5 mm wider and the narrow end is 0.5mm narrower, while the older EXP spring is straighter overall.
whole thing is strange. wonder if there was a bad batch.
essentially zero lateral play with the old springs (0.25mm at most) while there's 1.5mm of play with the new springs.
this occurred with both my old MTNs and the new 23 MTNs, so its definitely the spring and not a change in the heel tower.
Recently got a pair of brand new Tours for cheap (the ones with the 50mm track that "require" brakes). Was really interested in mounting them brakeless, and had an extra set of the brakeless plastic pieces laying around. Found someone locally willing to part with their old beat up heels for cheap. Cleaned up the base plates on that set and mounted my new towers to them. Worked like a charm. Saved $200 in the process and avoided the negative "flat mode" by mounting the 50mm set direct to ski. Pretty happy with it. And, now I have some spare parts laying around.
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Nice. If you want the next level of performance, get and ATK heel spacer or DIY one from an AFD and make your stomp pad higher. Still get a level flat walk mode but get a less vague heel because it’s resting on the stomp pad like it is while skiing on the brakes version.
I’ll be curious to see if you noticed the difference in skiing with the brakeless compared to the brakes.
I've skied both and had a pair without and a pair with brakes in my quiver at one point. I honestly didn't notice the difference much. The brakes were on a pair of skis I really only took out when it was soft and the other was on my pair for "variable" conditions. Maybe if I had swapped which pair was on which ski I would have noticed the difference more.