I'll be up top around 8 in a white f150.. Promied the dogs I would take them for a lap and then off to HHA unless anyone has any better suggestions. Hombres with Freerides...Back in Fraser at 11:00
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I'll be up top around 8 in a white f150.. Promied the dogs I would take them for a lap and then off to HHA unless anyone has any better suggestions. Hombres with Freerides...Back in Fraser at 11:00
Anyone make it up today? I was half way thinking of heading up for a couple of hours tomorrow morning since it looks like there was some snow up that way.
yesterday was really nice. Finally some new snow without the wind....
How High up did you get. Any slab development above treeline?
Yes. Curious of the wind effect as I am planning on heading up tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by KillingCocks
Thing we noticed on Thursday at LL was that the fractures that happened on the Ridge (Superbowl, elsewhere) were lower in the slope. Crowns looked pretty big, and speculation was that it stepped down to deep pack instabilities. Also watch out for cracks propagating up the hill from remote triggers and lower traverses. I think we're in for a heavy avvy cycle. Hope I'm wrong.
Heading up for a few laps soon. Black 4Runner, Voile Split board, blue pants, black jacket.
The Pass skied great today with moderate snow throughout. Tomorrow should be really good.
Skied the west side today and there was some great snow to be had. Stability is another issue though....
This guy released when I ski cut the upper skier's left section of Y chute. Ran full track and although it probably wasn't enough to bury you, there were a few rocks in the runout that could have posed some problems.
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The pass was a zoo today. Tons of hikers going up the skin track, tons of folks with no avy gear.
The snow and skiing were decent (I had a good time), but as RonMexico said, the stability was suspect. And, even with suspect stability there were people skinning up "The Roll." Blows my mind...skinning up a very pronounced convexity that other people are skiing down when there is poor stability! Someone is going to get themselves in trouble pretty soon. I try to be as polite as possible when I talk to gapers who have no gear and no clue, but I can see myself blowing up at someone soon. They not only endanger their own lives but mine as well. Argh...
/rant
Hey - no worries. Based on recent incidents, the best way to survive a slide, either triggered by you or not, is to be able to pull waynewong moves with pontoon-assed barrel staves with balloons tied to yer back with a sled doing endos behind you. Don't forget Pete's poodle, the avy dog. Prolly outa toss that thing offa the cornice first as a further test.
Yo - to the dudes skiing Y chute, didja yell "avalanche" or some shit after you triggered that (smallish) slide 'cause there was a party in the trees below you - good thing there wasn't much snow to entrain! Did you guys cross the run out below "z-chute"??? N ice work!
Considering hitting the pass tomorrow. But junkshow + considerable avi danger might be turn-off enough. Anybody here heading up tomorrow?
Thinking about it
headed back to colorado next weekend for the holidays. probably looking at getting some touring in on thursday, friday, xmas and monday. haven't gotten to ski berthoud since my college days at CU, so i'm pretty stoked. berthoud is where i really sharpen my teeth and started touring. looking for partners, let me know if anyone is around.
a circus out there today for sure, but my buddy & I found some solid turns and didnt see many folks on our way...
The snow was really good today and it was pretty crowded, but there were freshies well past noon.
Where are these shots from? I don't recognize. I thought Floral but looks way too open.Quote:
Originally Posted by KillingCokes
The first run is Floral out near/below Fairway. The second run is flume to jumpoff
KillingCokes is the mayor of Floral.
Today wasn't half bad up there, I have a feeling tomorrow might be pretty good too...
Sorry, tried to re-size them...
Made them 600x800 on my photobucket album so fuck it. Here are links:
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please resize your photos, JONG.
You should maybe try to re-size those pictures a little bit... Jus' sayin'
have to love the oversize, blurry photos of folks sans avi gear hucking.
Come on dude. This isn't loveland pass. The 'tards that ski there without gear are just waiting for it. Berthoud is always good to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rontele
Gotta love TGR... :rolleyes2 Sorry for the oversized pictures I tried after the fact to fix it but it wasn't happening. From what I could tell there was only 1 blurred shot, and BTW we did have avy gear, not that you really care. Crap Your welcome for the update, the snow's fucking great. BTW I'm gonna go back out tomorrow and bomb out all the landings just for you fuckers!
must be that new awesome invisible avi gear...or did you leave it in the car while you were doing laps?
Jong here... I love the one of the guy jumping into a zone that already has a small crown in it. :nonono2:
For what its worth, I enjoyed the pics. Its just hard to tell what the hell is going on when you can't find the rider for 45 seconds. I think every one is wondering where your probe and shovel might be. I can sort of understand hucking with out a pack if you have your crew around, but yea, uh, where are your shovel and probe?Quote:
Originally Posted by forum8fox
and the reason you're getting shit is because there really are way too many people who ski those zones without anything.
In one sense, fuck 'em, its their fault if they die.
In another sense their choices may affect the lives of others... then its not okay.
Sick shots bro! I don't care if they are blurry. At least you were out there, while most of these tards where sitting in front of their laptops commenting on gawker.Quote:
Originally Posted by forum8fox
Packs were with me and the other person that was with us. Beacons, well as you might guess are not visible, go figure? Imagine that! The aforementioned crown was a result of me botching my take off and nose diving into the wind lip sheering then compressing as I belly flopped. Not really a big deal. BTW we kept other people in mind the whole time, never was there anyone below us.
Great story. Compelling, and rich.
Why is everyone so pissed? If you're still angry at life after this storm, you're a gaping douchenozzle.
Aside from the fact that you're not on skis, those are decent pics (albeit huge). Thanks for the TR. I'd be up there tomorrow but I'm flying solo. Looks like a Winter Park day :(
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Originally Posted by fluxrad
Calmer than you are.
Srsly, though, no one is "pissed." It is just that the photos plus the state of the snowpack may raise some red flags.
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Snow & Avalanche Discussion
New 24-hour snow totals are in the 4" to 8" inch range with a half to three-quarters of an inch of water. This last little burst of decent snowfall from this storm has increased the avalanche danger. A good amount of avalanche activity to report for the Front Range zone from yesterday provides some evidence.
I was out touring in the drainages north of Berthoud Pass yesterday, and witnessed a natural soft slab avalanche in Tea Cup Bowl in Current creek (see images below). The avalanche consisted of the storm slab, 1-3 ft thick, approximately 400 ft wide, and ran the length of this small terrain feature; about 150 vertical feet. This is a southeast aspect, 35 degrees, and below treeline at 11,100 feet. Our group also triggered a couple size 1 avalanches in this storm slab near and below treeline on terrain with slope angles in the mid to upper 30s. These occured in fairly forested terrain.
We received two additional reports from the Berthoud Pass area of skiers triggering and getting caught in storm slab avalanches. A skier triggered an east facing slope at treeline at 11,500 feet above the cliff bands west of pass. The slab was 100' wide and 2-3 feet thick, and ran about 200'. He took a short ride and sustained no injuries. Another skier triggered this same storm slab. He was caught, tumbled, and came to rest on the debris surface with an injured knee. He self-evacuated with two companions. The slab was 2-3 feet deep, almost 1000 feet wide, and ran for 200 feet. We don't have any more details on this slide right now. A natural avalanche also closed Cameron Pass last night.
Observes from across the zone are reporting a very reactive storm slab, that is cracking and sliding under skier weight. The slabs are getting larger in size as the storm snow settles and stiffens. Visibility above treeline was very limited, but widespread natural activity would not be surprising. The snow that fell in the early part of this storm was much lower density than what came later. The storm snow is "upside down", and is not a good structural set up for avalanches. This transition in snow density is easy to see if you dig down, and easier to feel as you move through the terrain. The southwesterly winds have been quite strong along the highest terrain and recent wind deposits are still a concern.
The new snow is heavy, and has added a significant load to our snowpack. We keep inching closer to the point where we can impact those deeper buried weak layers that are still lurking. The small additional weight of a skier can tip this balance. Triggered slides that initiate in the storm wind slab could step down to the deep weak layers to create larger avalanches. This deep slab is scary. It's becoming easier to trigger, and when it releases will produce large and destructive avalanches.
I'm sittin' next to the armchair,tryin' to throw a pass,but will you PLEASE!tell anyone you know to PLEASE play it safe.I always wear my bacon outta sight.That being said,let ol' boy preach to the choir!
thanks for regurgitating todays avalanche report, as if I hadn't seen it multiple times today (before I left and after). The slab they are talking about on the west side is in rush chute proper, broke a little above the choke (narrowly) then fanned out wider out the apron. I picked that out before leaving the car.
BTW I do know how to play safe, but I sure do make a great scapegoat apparently.
I cared less about the lack of avi gear than the oversized photos. Resized, they would have been a good contribution to this thread.
Sorry man, I tried.... I might give it another shot if I get out again today.
you colorado folk sure do get your panties in a bunch quick.
Headed to steamboat tonight, either skiing da boat or berthoud tomorrow! so stoked!