Does anyone want these? $10 to your local animal or women’s shelter, or some other altruistic deed, will get them sent to you.
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Does anyone want these? $10 to your local animal or women’s shelter, or some other altruistic deed, will get them sent to you.
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Free range skate skiing.
Bit of flat light, but the crust was perfect
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Hike down was nice as well
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Not over yet!
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That looks amazingly nice, especially for this late.
Agreed. Way to get after it late into the season. Thanks for the stoke this year everyone!
These pics are killing me. Nordic season was done first week of March (and only really started late January) in my area. Enjoy it, so jealous!
Talked to a Nordic shop the other day saying hardly any Nordic skis next season. Biggest factory is in Ukraine, most materials come from Russia. Huh..
Shocking!Quote:
Originally Posted by teledad
Not at our shop. Rossis shifted production to Spain of most models. We’ve been told we’re good.Quote:
Originally Posted by byates1
^ cool. I want a pair of those skin skis for classic. Mine are beat 8 seasons old..
3 feet of new snow this week certainly helped. Grooming at that spot is ending this weekend (and access is somewhat restricted), but anyone in the Tahoe/Reno area should check out Nevada Nordic - a community organization that's trying to keep grooming in the Mt. Rose area as long as the snow lasts. Trail use is free, it's all supported by donations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shredhead
https://nevadanordic.org/
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touring the Stickpin Fire scar
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RELEASE THE NORDORK!
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Just an update that although supply issues are affecting shipping times, the skis are in or on the way. Grooming has started at the campground up valley for “those” folks.Quote:
Originally Posted by plugboots
My new Fischer Skate’s are getting ground and hotboxed this week from Caldwell Sport/West Hill. Looking forward to getting a nice full season in this year!
Nice.
I’m thinking of pulling trigger now on some 191 RCS stiffs but trying to justify this when I’ll only use them when occasionally visiting Mammoth and Bend (doubt I’ll drive an hour to the Tahoe skate spots when there’s excellent backcountry skiing 5 mins from my house).
Fischer was using Ukrainian mfg but is that still the case? The supply chain comment about Rossi was interesting.
Call around if you haven’t. We ran out fairly quick on the most popular sizes, but we still have last years skis at 35% or more off, and we sold almost all our last year’s rentals at waaaay cheap and they’re immaculate.Quote:
Originally Posted by frorider
Frorider, there’s a ski swap at Tahoe xc center next Saturday…
Also, Fischer owns the factory, so lots of their skis are made there. Historically, Madshus, Alpina, Rossignol, Salomon also used the facility.
Can't wait for the trails to come in at the park nearby. There's a 5.5k loop and they made some new stuff for this year through the middle. My week is so much better if i can get out one day for a lunch lap.
eta: no skin skis yet but I got some for my better half and I am awfully jealous.
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Thx, yeah it’s been on my calendar for a while but since I can’t be there in person I didn’t want to burden my N Shore friends with having to shop on my behalf. Pulled trigger on some RCRs on sale.Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
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This looks so tasty ... get it!Quote:
Originally Posted by plugboots
I didn't realize TGR was so accepting. Here are a few pics - early start to the season around here so I've been trying to take advantage while I can.
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Great pics. So jealous of people getting out already.
Basic questions from a nordic curious noob:
Classic vs Skate for just building fitness? Hopefully this doesn't start a holy war.
Are lessons helpful or can a reasonable person figure it out on their own? Have experience with Tele and AT skiing (and obviously alpine).
I'm not a life long expert here, but I'd say skate over classic for building fitness.Quote:
Originally Posted by davjr96
Lessons are definitely helpful. Yes, you can figure it out to an extent, but it is all about technique and some (a lot?) of it is not intuitive. I find folks that have been doing it for decades are still learning.
My 2 cents
Agreed on the above. I classic with my kids, I skate when out on my own. Skate is a much better workout unless you are double poling a ton with classic.
I'd also second a recommendation on lessons if you can. I ice skate, downhill, and all the other winter things. I still got my ass kicked the first season on skate skis.
How about ice skating? If so, it'll come pretty quickly. I don't classic so can't compare it to skate but I can tell you skating for an hour kicks my freaking ass. Especially if you get after it a bit and the terrian has even a little bit of elevation.Quote:
Originally Posted by davjr96
You can definitely get a workout with classic (without double poling) but it requires a good kick and weight transfer. Starting out people tend to just shuffle along and have a hard time getting enough speed to get out of breath. Classic is a good way to get skills dialed though, particularly pole/ski timing and gliding on a single ski (needed for skating too).
Skating is kind of the opposite - as a beginner you're not very efficient, so you're forced to either go full gas or quit. Over time you learn to slow it down, glide longer, and be more efficient (and faster).
Conditions matter too, in soft snow skating sucks but classic is OK. With icy firm snow it's the reverse. Generally I'm resort or BC skiing when the snow is soft so my skate skis get more use. Also waxing for skating is simpler (though in Norcal I wouldn't bother with waxable classics at all, just get skin skis).
Suggest lessons when starting either way. I've been skiing classic for 50 years and skate for 30 but am still learning and still occasionally take lessons.
It’s just like anything else, if you want to get better, quicker, take lessons.
You absolutely can get a workout with either. It’s the classic: “it doesn’t get any easier, you just go faster”.
Sometimes the snow’s soft and you wipe out. BFD
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What teledad said. Classic XC allows you to trudge along, while skating requires a certain level of output to maintain the dynamic (and more so with sloppy technique). But still, if you’re knocking out 20k and 1000+’ of gain, you’re getting some kind of workout regardless. And with some actual diagonal stride technique, you can get the pulse going doing XC classic too.
Lessons are worthwhile. Take a skate lesson right at the start, and then again after several days of experience. You want to sharpen your skills and not get into bad habits, but first you want to feel pretty good just getting around. Ditto for classic; I like doing a fast diagonal stride, and that’s not going to come naturally if all your Nordic experience is shuffling around on tele gear.
Classic gear: you’re in CA? Then just get patterned or the ones with embedded fast skins strips. But… it’s so nice to own a set of flat-base for those occasional dreamy cold snow blue-gripwax days.
Thanks all! Sounds like skate plus lessons are the way to go. Fully prepared to suffer. In CA but parents are in the upstate NY (or north country depending on who you ask) so would go there a fair amount as well.
Don't let me dissuade you from classic either. It has its place, I just tend to work harder when I skate. Other posters are 100% correct that you can get a workout in either way, but for me skate is just much more fun and I'm much more willing to go further and faster than when I classic.
Either way - get out and enjoy. I never thought I'd be a nordic person myself, but I like it almost as much as downhill these days.
if you want a better workout doing classic you just go faster and farther. i’ve never done skate but i really enjoy seeing the landscape on the skinnies. plus it’s ubiquitous and cheap or free, which is a nice bonus.
I run hot when exercising and was never much of a runner (although I move as fast as the new recruits half my age in the forested slopes at work). XC just seems to fit me to a T with respect to low impact on my knees and cool temps to moderate my heat. Combined with fresh corduroy or 10cm fresh on supported base, and it’s as close to unmedicated nirvana I have experienced. Throw in some wildlife, especially by headlamp (or even better, moonlight), and nothing reps the soul of skiing more to me.
Agree with much of the above, good interval training can be had with rolling elevation gain and skate, great cardio plus extension with both skate and classic on the flats. Lessons are always welcome, even if it’s just an opinion from a person of equal skill watching my technique from the side or rear. I’ve also found following a slower skier (kids are great for this) to slow down the stride and concentrate on the elements for a couple km’s. Gear is relatively cheap if you stay away from racing, and the family-orientated loppet scene is excellent in many skiing communities.
Oh, and add a kiddo (or tarp/blanket, a basket of snacks, plus a nice mulled wine in a thermos) in the chariot with the family, and what better way to spend a weekend afternoon on the track while getting the heart rate up. Only topped by sauna shenanigans when you get back to base.
Seems like this is as good of a place to ask as anywhere else. Does anyone have a recommendation for a light windbreaker vest for a bit of extra warmth while skate skiing?
There are Nordic specific clothing lines like Swix, but I generally ski in cycling clothes.Quote:
Originally Posted by John_B
Freeride Systems, a maggot owned and staffed company, is doing a special production run of vests.Quote:
Originally Posted by John_B
https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...d.php?t=349252
Or search for gilet.
https://bikecloset.com/product/caste...RoCSuAQAvD_BwE