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I saw that awhile ago. I dunno. Even travelling really slow, that bullet is still like 600+ grains. Wouldn't the guy get way more hurt? They coulda had a guy off camera with a slingshot to make the little dust poof right before the guy gets hit. If it is real, he's one lucky sumbitch.
I know a guy that out shooting fmj don't know the caliber(maybe.300 WM), but anyway, he hit the end of a junk axle, the round penetrated 2",came straight back out and went through his lower jaw and out the side of his cheek. Hardly felt it,
but all of a sudden LOTS OF BLOOD. One lucky sucker.
Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by leroy jenkins
Five or six years back I had a Ruger 45 ACP. Fun target gun and solid, but not nearly as accurate as the similar Ruger model in a 9mm as a friend had. Haven't had a handgun in a few years and would like to get one again.
Uncle who is a bit of a gun nut recommended a 226 or 229? Haven't gotten a chance to check out either one, waiting for the tax refund.
Yeti-man's clip is sketchy, btw. Spooky.
Look at what you shoot best for handguns. It doesn't matter what it is, how cool it looks or any amount of name recognition if you can't hit your target. I really don't like glocks or baretta's. I love my XD. Go to a range where you can rent a bunch of different models. Pick what suits you best.
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Originally Posted by Theodore
What he said ^^^^
For a first handgun (especially a defensive one), get a gun that takes a .22LR conversion kit.
.45 = 25 cents a round.
9mm = 18 cents a round.
.22LR = 2.2 cents a round.
This means you can practice for less.
I shoot probably 10x the .22LR rounds through my CZ 75 that I do 9mm.
This means:
Glock
1911
Browning High Power
Beretta 92
CZ-75
And I know the guy in YetiMan's clip. He was shooting .50BMG at a 2" steel cube at 100 yards.
The 226s are good guns, decently reliable but blocky. The bore axis is high, so you get a lot of muzzle flip in a Sig. You might like a CZ-75. The Sig I had would start to fail to lock up after about 600 rounds of no cleaning, which is only a little over half of a good combat pistol class of 1000 rounds. New recoil springs didn't help. Not good. A Glock or a CZ in my experience will run for thousands of rounds without being lubed or cleaned. That's reliability.
Secondly, don't listen to the .45 vs. 9mm crap. Realize that all handguns suck at stopping people, and that the best caliber is one you can shoot accurately and quickly. Even a .357 mag, considered the premier manstopper, is severely outclassed by a rifle too weak to legally hunt deer with. John Browning's personal gun was a little .32ACP.
PM me if you want more information.
I whole heartedly agree with the caliber argument. Hell, the VT gunman had a .22 and a 9mm. It's not the round, but where the shots are placed.
From the inimitable Oleg Volk:
http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/d/23...tnaked6014.jpg
http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/d/4543-4/mp5amy7852.jpg
http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/d/2043-4/girlie15.jpg
http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/d/14...+brass-catcher
http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/d/18...6raine9566.jpg
http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/d/22...gunner9846.jpg
http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/d/22320-4/shirt9071.jpg
Note all of the subjects' trigger fingers. All of Oleg's models are gunnies. :D
But no protective eye wear (or clothing in many cases) :the_fingeQuote:
Originally Posted by coreshot-tourettes
http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/d/2043-4/girlie15.jpg
Is it just me, or is the bore on this rifle kinda skinny?
It looks that way because there's no flash hider. It might be an HBAR (heavy barrel) model AR15.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caucasian Asian
Yeah, hot brass plus bare skin ain't fun. I think that the photo of Lori with the M14 is actually titled "Girl with a brass catcher".Quote:
But no protective eye wear (or clothing in many cases)
You'd think Oleg's "gunnies" would know that. I guess not.Quote:
Originally Posted by coreshot-tourettes
Oh, stop reaching for something, anything, to sour the discussion. None of the guns are in the process of being fired. And do you really think that you have time to put on proper eyewear and earpro and clothing when an intruder is breaking down your door?Quote:
Originally Posted by TruckeeLocal
Has anyone here shot a kahr pm40/pm9?
They conceal well, are flat, are accurate, have OK double action triggers, but are less than reliable. Most owners' Kahrs have to go back to the factory at least once before they're reliable.Quote:
Originally Posted by flykdog
And Kahr is owned by the Moonies.
You'd think that you would know you're a fool. I guess not.Quote:
Originally Posted by TruckeeLocal
TNKen is this your house? If so I am jealous. Hell, I'm jealous anyway!
I could only hope. My guess is that this collection is worth several million. It has been discussed at length on the gun forums. There is at least one gun, a German FG-42, in there that will sell for around $150K. Some very, very nice stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by khakis
I have a walk-in with a vault door, but not quite like that!!
Ken
That. Is. Awesome.
Do I see two MP-44's in there as well? An MG-42! Only seen those in a museum!
Any more info on that place?
Here's a list an RKI came up with looking at the pics. There are a couple more pics floating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gripen
No MG-42's (that we saw). Here's a link to a vid of the one I used to have. It was a .308 with a slow fire conversion ordered by the Italians.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkxGPSxrrD8
12) 1918A2 BARs
(2) FND
(1) M2 - air cooled
(1) M1921 water cooled 50 cal.
(3) M2HB - one has original night scope on it and one is chromed
(11) M1 or M2 carbine
(3) M60
(11) Thompsons
(1) Barrett 50 cal M82A1
(1) Suomi SMG
(1) Swedish K
(1) S&W 76 SMG
(1) Uzi
(1) Owen
(2) Sten Mk2
(1) Sten Mk3
(1) Sten Mk5 or Austen
(1) AC556K
(1) ERMA EMP 35
(1) MP41
(1) MP35 Bergmann SMG
(2) MG34
(1) FG42 second model
(9) M16 of various configurations
(1) AR18
(1) Bushmaster arm pistol machine gun
(1) HK MP5SD
(1) HK G3
(1) MP44
(1) STG 45 (might be wrong on this one)
(1) M203
(2) 1919a4
(1) ANM2
(1) Stoner 63 in left hand feed LMG configuration
(1) Para FAL Metric Belgium model
(1) Sterling
(1) MAC with a long barrel and wood handguard
(1) MAC12 380 ACP with can
(1) Madsen M50
(1) Madsen LMG
(1) Walther MPL
(1) Vickers Mk1
(1) Maxum MG08 on sled mount
(1) Brass Maxum (most like Argentine)
(1) Beretta M1936/42
(1) American 180
(1) Beretta BM59 with folding stock
(1) Bren Mk1
(1) Valmet M78 in 7.62X51
(1) Valmet M78 in 5.56
(1) Hotchkiss pattern "Portative"
(1) AK47 bottom folder
(1) AK47 fixed stock
(1) VZ58p
(4) Riesings M50
(2) M1 Garand (one might not be a Garand but a BM59 full stock)
(1) Jap "knee" mortar
(1) 60mm Mortar
(1) unknown size mortar
(1) Lahti L39 20mm cannon
(1) Solothurn S18/1000 20mm cannon
(1) M2 flame thrower (the bottom one with the hole in the tank)
(1) M3 (not sure of model) flame thrower
(1) 75mm recoilless rifle round, no gun pictured to shoot it.
Nice vid.. I actually meant FG-42 but mis-typed it.
The MG-42 is a nice, M60 is very similar to it strangely enough. They copied a good design;) I believe the German
Quite an impressive collection.
The modern German MG3 is basically a re-chambered MG42.
Booyah! Our Governor just signed a bill allowing Kansan's to buy NFA arms now! Finally, up to speed with our neighbors! Now I need to save.... a LOT. SBR's were legal before, but now I can get a silencer! :D
I sorta though the .50 with the belt in it was just for looks, but then I noticed how its pointing right at the door. EDIT< thats not the door, its his own privatee underground pistol range. Huh.Quote:
Originally Posted by khakis
I bet thats the "home defense" gun, just hole up there and point that thing out and no ones coming in there.
Jeebus.
Gotta love the BARs, the mp44s and all the mg's, but I would have more FALS, M14s, mp5s, and a few of the swiss 550/1/2s, not to mention some shotties.
Grenade launchers too, those are pretty practical.
This is my baby, an FNC80, or AK5 as we call it in Sweden. Comes with free rounds and a green beret...
http://i31.tinypic.com/311kmyh.jpg
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Originally Posted by coreshot-tourettes
Thnaks for the beta. Good stuff.
As mentioned one of the reasons I got rid of the 45 was the cost of rounds and accuracy, whne I shot the 9 in the same gun it was a different pistol alltogether. I'll hvae to do more research and try to get a few more in hand and see what feels right.
The gun room in that picture is ridiculous, thats wall to wall fun.
Marvel Precision is the mac-daddy of all 1911 .22 rimfire conversions. Super accurate and well built. http://marvelprod.com/
I have several 1911's. A great platform. My competition gun is a custom built STI 2011 in .38 Super. 1911 platform, but with a wide body grip for extra ammo.
Beware, there is a company called Ciener that makes .22 conversions, guy is a total ass-hat. Forever to deliver product, no customer service.
That's what I hear as well.Quote:
Beware, there is a company called Ciener that makes .22 conversions, guy is a total ass-hat. Forever to deliver product, no customer service.
I shot that Kahr pm40 the other day. Shot pretty well, didn't kick as bad as expected. I jammed a round on the third shot and the trigger pull is too long for my tastes.
How's Sweden's military work, is it like Switzerland where active duty and reserves keep full auto weapons in the closet at home?Quote:
Originally Posted by CarlE
No.......Quote:
Originally Posted by coreshot-tourettes
any of you have experiences/opinions on tacstar vs speedfeed vs pachmayr? I want a pistol grip for a shotgun.
While we're at it, how about firedragon pistol barrels?
Is that what you use while in "lumpen"? Same as we (the norwegian army, not myself - haven´t been drafted for a couple of years) use the AG3 in Norway (HK 416 on its way), I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by CarlE
I have a firedragon barrel which converts my sig .40 to 9mm, what do you want to know?Quote:
While we're at it, how about firedragon pistol barrels?
I want to get a 7.62 next. What are some of the better AK-style rifles? Or should I just get an AR-15 style in 7.62? I don't want to spend a ton of cash, I'm not looking for 1 MOA accuracy and I'm not planning on mounting 15 accessories on multiple picatinny rails. I just want something dependable, fairly accurate and not super spendy in a 7.62. Suggestions?
Assuming your talking about 7.62 x 39 (Soviet) not 7.62 x 51 (.308).Quote:
Originally Posted by Jer
Yep - 7.62 x 39. Full...metal...jacket.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gripen
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Originally Posted by Jer
7.62x39 in the AR-15 package is not great. Caliber works fine, problem is finding trouble-free mags. Most that work are hand crafted using a steel AR-15 mag then cutting and welding a AK mage to it; called Frankenmags.
Arsenal Incorporated www.arsenalinc.com makes one of the better AK rifles these days. That would be my choice. Avoid a Century AK at all costs. Next option if you are somewhat talented is to buy a parts kit, pick up the required US manufactured pieces, by an $80 receiver and rivet kit, and build your own. Nodakspud.com is the choice receiver righ tnow. (North Dakota Spuds) Lots of good how to websites. I've got a bunch of kits, but haven't gotten around to doing it yet.
Ken
fit and finish? You happy with it?Quote:
Originally Posted by GunPowder