Whitewolf here we come! Alpine + Squaw. Dreams can come true.

soon to introduce the specially designated "sober" express pass lift line......?! oh shit.

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Originally Posted by dookey67

um, that's not really random now, is it?

random would be where they just drug tested whenever, whomever, and however they wanted regardless; i.e. you show up for work and they pull you aside, hand you a cup and ask you politely to pee in it without any provocation whatsoever.

If you f@#k up on the clock and they drug test you, well that's hardly random at all...

[The Oxford English Dictionary defines 'random' as: "Having no definite aim or purpose; not sent or guided in a particular direction; made, done, occurring, etc., without method or conscious choice; haphazard."]

to the best of my limited range of knowledge on the matter, a great deal of ski resorts have a "don't ask/don't tell policy" which means that they do not drug test you up front, but if you are an employee and are involved in any kind of accident that causes either severe physical harm or property damage in excess of $500 they will test you for drugs and alcohol. i'm not sure, but i think this is pretty standard policy with any large business (time for The Dad to chime in!).

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Thanks for vocabulary lesson, Dooks. I think we got it now.

However, what is significant regarding resort employee drug tests is that if an employee decides to partake on his/her day off and gets injured enough to have to go to the hospital and make a claim on the company insurance for, say, a shoulder dislocation, the employee will be tested. If said employee turns up positive, there's a good chance the claim can be denied and termination inevitable. I have run across more than one very wounded employee who wouldn't go to the doctor because of this fear.

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Originally Posted by splat

I dreamt it would all be interconnected by tunnels like that big mountain railroad or whatever at Disneyland which, I believe, was modeled after the rocks at Squaw. It's fate.

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That would be the Thunder Mountain Railroad, and it's based on the hoodoo's in Bryce Canyon. There's even a trail in Red Canyon near Bryce called Thunder Mountain. It looks exactly the Disney ride and kicks major ass on a bike. ;)

All that said, I'm looking forward to having our very own Basshole. :yourock:

Hmmmm. seems I heard one of the cable car operators say that.
He must have ridden Space Mountain. Hence, the drug testing.

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Originally Posted by splat

if an employee decides to partake on his/her day off

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One of the many ironies of the inverse relationship between the severity of the drug and its later perceptibility.

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Originally Posted by splat

Hmmmm. seems I heard one of the cable car operators say that.
He must have ridden Space Mountain. Hence, the drug testing.

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Hahahahahahaha!!!

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Originally Posted by dookey67

um, that's not really random now, is it?

random would be where they just drug tested whenever, whomever, and however they wanted regardless; i.e. you show up for work and they pull you aside, hand you a cup and ask you politely to pee in it without any provocation whatsoever.

If you f@#k up on the clock and they drug test you, well that's hardly random at all...

[The Oxford English Dictionary defines 'random' as: "Having no definite aim or purpose; not sent or guided in a particular direction; made, done, occurring, etc., without method or conscious choice; haphazard."]

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Your sarcasm meter is broken. They used the word random, but the tests were not.

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... I have run across more than one very wounded employee who wouldn't go to the doctor because of this fear.

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jeez, you can't just be satisfied that they are very injured, you have to run across them too!?! What a hard-ass boss!

Got an email today that implies I'll be re-hired at Alpine. The letter did confirm that we'll all have to pass a drug test and background check. The letter implied that we should probably start studying for the test now since we'll have to take it sometime in November.

Other than for people with a medical need, I have to say that I don't feel the pre-hire drug test is that big of a deal. They're giving people plenty of time to prepare for it and if you can't go a month without smoking, you've got bigger issues.

They only call it random for insurance purposes. In reality its a you fucked up on the clock, were going to try and get out of workmans comp kinda thing.

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Got an email today that implies I'll be re-hired at Alpine. The letter did confirm that we'll all have to pass a drug test and background check. The letter implied that we should probably start studying for the test now since we'll have to take it sometime in November.

Other than for people with a medical need, I have to say that I don't feel the pre-hire drug test is that big of a deal. They're giving people plenty of time to prepare for it and if you can't go a month without smoking, you've got bigger issues.

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A pre hire drug test at a ski resort?

If the terms were no beer or wine for a month I would tell them to fuck off.

On principle, I would never submit.

And for what rate of compensation does one make this sacrifice? Straight bullshit and you know it.

Colorado corporations buy Tahoe ski resorts

Marketplace, April 17, 2012

So they gonna bring back the ski trains of yesteryear, Jamie?
You'd think if they wanted to upgrade the transportation infrastructure to deliver more customers, rail from the Bay and transfers to Squaw and Northstar would be Job One. I like rail transportation.

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Got an email today that implies I'll be re-hired at Alpine. The letter did confirm that we'll all have to pass a drug test and background check. The letter implied that we should probably start studying for the test now since we'll have to take it sometime in November.

Other than for people with a medical need, I have to say that I don't feel the pre-hire drug test is that big of a deal. They're giving people plenty of time to prepare for it and if you can't go a month without smoking, you've got bigger issues.

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I have no idea how any normal human being could bump chairs sober.

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You'd think if they wanted to upgrade the transportation infrastructure to deliver more customers, rail from the Bay and transfers to Squaw and Northstar would be Job One. I like rail transportation.

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That would be truly awesome.

I'd love rail as much as the next guy, but I think they mean something more like widening 89 and finishing the endless I-80 projects. I doubt there is enough travel between Reno and Sacramento/the Bay to justify more passenger rail.

They don't need rail service from Reno. They need it from the Bay. After you've been here for a while, you'll realize that I-80 projects are perpetual. Widening 89 would be awesome. Then the Southern Pacific or whatever Buffet's train set is called could employ some of those flatcars they have in Yurp that you drive your car onto while you go sit in a passenger car for the trip, offloading in the old rail yard in Truckee. Boon for traffic, boon for Truckee, boon for all North Tahoe resorts in the winter.
Ski trains are typically seasonal and dedicated.

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That would be truly awesome.

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I'm eagerly awaiting you and the rest of the bay area crew bitching that the train leaves at 5 and there's a 100yd walk to the nearest cab

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So they gonna bring back the ski trains of yesteryear, Jamie?
You'd think if they wanted to upgrade the transportation infrastructure to deliver more customers, rail from the Bay and transfers to Squaw and Northstar would be Job One. I like rail transportation.

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I love the idea of bringing the ski train back.

Combine that with the Tahoe Subway in the Sky and it would be awesome.

Hmm, Vail resorts arrives and within a few years, people are talking about a train from the nearest population centers. Sounds vaguely familiar to somewhere else I know.

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Hmm, Vail resorts arrives and within a few years, people are talking about a train from the nearest population centers. Sounds vaguely familiar to somewhere else I know.

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Springfield?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEZjzsnPhnw

Colorado, not Oregon.

Ski trains to Tahoe were done from the 40's until not that long ago.

Yeah, and Winter Park had a ski train till not that long ago. I was just pointing out the parallels between the two. Either way, I think it's a great idea, especially keeping people who are not used to driving in snow from clogging up the highway during storms.

A train would be great only if there was adequate public transportation once you got up to truckee.

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