I might be late to this, but did the wildcat tour’s get heavier? I seem to remember my 18/19 pair weighing in under 1750g a ski?
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I might be late to this, but did the wildcat tour’s get heavier? I seem to remember my 18/19 pair weighing in under 1750g a ski?
We wrote it down: 1716 g. in 184 . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by XavierD
The small variance in weight is because we are now using a different base and sidewall material.Quote:
Originally Posted by XavierD
Couldn’t agree more. Thanks as always for doing that podcast Melee - its very informative.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-kapow
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My last December’s WC tour 116’s are 1,857g & 1867gQuote:
Originally Posted by XavierD
Yep, agreed. Just a great bunch of guys who are really into the products they're selling. Moment has done great by teaming up with these guys over here.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-kapow
So it sounds like the Commanders have gotten a lot heavier this year. About +300 grams for the 188 108?
“Overkill is underrated” - quote of the interview
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My wife got excited when she was listening and realized the Bella’s that she bought shortly before the season was cancelled are the women's version of the Wildcat.
Really want to try the Commander 98, go fast take chances.
“Trolls on TGR” - lol...
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by TahoeJ
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Luke, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?!
Great podcast and always exciting hearing more about ski design and development from Moment. Stoked on the new sidewalls and base materials, sounds like a real improvement.
But this logic I do not follow:
Puts tour core in old commander design.
They think it sucks because it has too much taper (not surprised).
Made changes to old commander tour to help develop the new heavy commander design.
Adds more effective edge, longer radius, and makes it more directional (YAY!).
Releases new commander to the masses...
... but doesnt release a Commander Tour based on the new design, when the Commander Tour was the main catalyst for the redesign.
Why? The TGR trolls want to know ;)
Just buy a Deathwish and go skiing... :rolleyes2
Deathwish + Shifts = new Tahoe Corona KitQuote:
Originally Posted by skier666
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"Come at me mags".
The Jonathan / Luke dynamic is always a good start to ski season.
Finally got to listen today. Good stuff.
Only thing I wanted more of was more WC 108 v Deathwish discussion.
Loved how the Frankenblade is a loss leader, but kept in production... Thanks Luke!!![emoji3590]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...9c848ff7d4.jpg
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That is the binding that should be sold with Frankenblades by default (or the Warden demo). You got to be able to share blades. Plus when you're hiking for your summer turns with them need to be able to run AT boots.
Please someone post Frankenblades with a CAST setup.
I always say for "maximum hold my beer" effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by doebedoe
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Wise words [emoji120]Quote:
Originally Posted by skier666
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Kind of want to buy a set
Of Frankenblades now after listening to the podcast lol
Everything that we test is not intended to be a production ski. Sometimes we just trying things to see how they work.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdadour
Once we made a few tour revisions all focus was put on the non-tour Commander and the tour variation wasn't touched again.
We don't have enough time with the tour Commander yet and it's not ready to go to production with our stamp of approval.
Maybe we will play with it more this winter...
The Deathwish is usually the only ski in my quiver without demo bindings. I feel you.Quote:
Originally Posted by skier666
Got it, thanks for clarifying. I can appreciate the fact that you guys don't release a ski until its been fully tested. Stoked to get the new Commander 108!Quote:
Originally Posted by Melee
Pivot 15s or 18s?Quote:
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