I'd hate to walk down that after several gin & tonics. ;-)
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I'd hate to walk down that after several gin & tonics. ;-)
Touche! That's why I didn't really get into it. Acinpdx summed it up nicely. Hell we tore into and shored up structure on the willson school in Bozeman which was over a hundred years old. Some of things they used to span with dimensional 2x4 would make most engineers now shit their pants but hey it lasted that long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beaver
So you're saying this thing has a chance to not fall over too? I just need it to store some tools, bikes and a couple buckets of hooker teeth.
Wait...you made no mention of building with dead hookers. Wait for rigomortaus to set in and shove one on each side of that header, replace every other eight ball. No problemo.Quote:
Originally Posted by commonlaw
No, not ok. It stops acting like a wall and instead acts like a bunch of individual stacks of bricks. Plus it would look better if the bricks were staggered properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Tortoise
Guessing he didn't want to make half-bricks to start the row.
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Little deck for the 110 year old pos I've been fixing up all summer. I'd be proud of the inside, but the painters the homeowner hired fucked it up so bad I'm sad and ashamed.
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Yup. As long as there's gravel all the way down the back of the wall it'll probably be ok, but if it's backfilled with dirt I give it 10 years before it goes over.Quote:
Originally Posted by runethechamp
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You have some smooth legsQuote:
Originally Posted by acinpdx
You got a purty mouth
The dead loads can create sag over time. Cut add a built-up header above the door.Quote:
Originally Posted by commonlaw
Overhangs help to protect the siding (and help aesthetically). I'd extend the rafter ends at least a foot and box in the rakes to add a rake eave:
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Def going to beef up the framing and already have the overhang in the works. What do you think of acx over osb for the roof?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpinord
Redundant. Plus ACX is too high a grade for something that will be buried. If you float 5/8" roof decking you can tie in with 2x subfascias. Using 3/8" ACX or whatever soffits will 'box' the overhangs and add rigidity.Quote:
Originally Posted by commonlaw
Subfascias planned too. Since I'm in Seattle, I thought I wouldn't mind paying more for something more high grade to protect all the shit under it from the rain, long term. If there is really no appreciable difference I guess I wont, but osb just seems so spongy. Again, its obvious I'm making this up as I go, but some compressed shit wood, some felt and some shingles doesnt really scream integrity in this climate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpinord
OSB is pretty standard and should have no problem for your shed and no snow loads with rafters at 16" o.c. (even 24" o.c.) and 12" boxed overhangs in your case.Quote:
Originally Posted by commonlaw
Shake shingles over felt (with that green moss growing) is pretty tried and true in your area. ;) If in doubt, maybe metal is better with your low pitch and/or membrane, but pretty spendy and a PITA for such a small roof.
Right on. Thanks for the advice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpinord
You're welcome. I'm guessing around 3:12 on your roof pitch? If so, rolling asphalt roofing may be required and better than shingles, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by commonlaw
I think its steeper than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpinord
terry, i love the 3d web spin...cool tool...acad sure doesn't do that
What are the front and back wall heights? I see now the back wall is lower than I drew it. So yeah, the pitch should be 4 to 5ish:12? Looks like 8' x 10' footprint?Quote:
Originally Posted by commonlaw
Yeah, it's a great 3D visualization tool. Vectorworks baby! Finally, we have multiple view panes, too for 2018.Quote:
Originally Posted by acinpdx
This is all off the top of my head while in workland, but I think the rise is about 22 inches and the run is around 44. 7.5x 10 footprint, which means I am closer to 6:12/26 or so degreesQuote:
Originally Posted by Alpinord
I was way off. I blame it on 5AM and not enough coffee! Any roofing should drain well.Quote:
Originally Posted by commonlaw
alpinord had great advice. I would only add that if what it is holding is important or of value and since its not huge, I would use Grace Ice and Water as the underlayment instead of felt. I have seen it used at 10,000 huge snow loads as the primary roof (idiots, lasted for 8 years so far on its own - not me) and it is worth the little extra money for so few squares to have such great protection underneath shingles.Quote:
Originally Posted by commonlaw
btw: great looking deck, super level wall, , cool shed, great projects around here
^^^^ Common, I have most of a roll of ice dam self adhesive underlayment that needs a home if you want it. Should be plenty for your needs.