Ukraine

the USA is a menace on the world stage anymore. No more - 'well, at least we do X and are for Y'. I mean, side with Putin... cut aid to Africa.. threaten sovereign nations with occupation and annexation ... impose economic policies to crush long standing allies. Willing to hear a reasoned response in how we're on the right side of anything anymore.

IMO Not at all but the Maga base of what 80 million supports trump so he doesnt need to do anything more than be a dumb ass and its not been a lot of time yet and so what could bring him down IS the question in my mind ??

No question Trump was provoking, but zelensky should have been more diplomatic, and maybe he would've gotten something.
If you publicly antagonize someone, especially someone with a big ego, you don't get what you wanted.

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Zelensky wants “security guarantees”, does that mean making Ukraine part of nato?
Is the US supposed to go to war with Russia to return Ukrainian territory to the pre 2014 lines?

It seems that some fell, either the US goes to war with Russia (WW3) or the US is on Russia’s side.




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Ukraine shouldn’t have to concede one inch of territory. We must restore pre war borders at all costs. Including full scale nuclear world war. If you’re not willing to destroy mankind for a few hundred miles of Ukraine you’re obviously a Putin puppet.


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Ukraine shouldn’t have to concede one inch of territory. We must restore pre war borders at all costs. Including full scale nuclear world war. If you’re not willing to destroy mankind for a few hundred miles of Ukraine you’re obviously a Putin puppet.


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This is the stupidest comment so far.
Risk nuclear war?

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The guy who's been hostile to Zelenskyy for six years and who believes Russia is his strong ally against his woke left enemies and who is working on schemes to make money in Russia and who has telling pro-Russian lies about the war nonstop did not make a snap decision today https://bsky.app/profile/tomscocca.b.../3ljbk3g6bbs26

Not any more, rod

What the fuck have we just witnessed?

And fuck our resident Putin comrads. I'll put all of them on ignore. It's not amusing anymore. Talking of world war 3 while the US now officially returns to 19th century politics emboldening every fuckwit dictator to do as they please. THAT IS HOW YOU GET WORLD WARS.

For what?

And rod doesn't even see the brilliant irony of the pineapple comrad. Hasn't Leningrad informed all you of how to make fun of the liberals and their law and valu based diplomacy with hyperbole?

The whole presser is actually longer, 50 min, watch from beginning. Trump was actually trying to sell this shit and I don’t think he even wants it, and Z kept going off track, rolling his eyes, yes, watch Z. Yes I’m sure he had heard enough, and been slapped around prior, but he’s always repeating himself with the same sad shit we all know about.

Either way, he had a chance to secure continued support and aid, but it seems when we ask for collateral, someone’s not happy. I think both these guys are playing their game, trump asking for a 500 billion in mineral rights, ? He’s bluffing Putin, cause I don’t think they’re actually worth ,cub right now, and he’s throwing a spoken in the Ukraines oligarch bike too, no free war.

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Risk nuclear war?

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No! Your comment proves you’re a complete idiot who can’t understand sarcasm.

Ahhh, ww3 and chicken little...the domino theory was correct, we are the last domino. Now when can get back to good old American values: grab em by the pussy and tell em to find cheaper fucking eggs next time. Perfect time for a ketamine and trt sausage fest bros. Cry more libs. Fuckers wanted to nuke the fucking sausage bro.

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I am sorry what is meant by this? Neville Chamberlain was an appeaser who did not read the room right and sold out Europe.

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Trump is appeasing to Putin ala Chamberlin. Putin is the donalds love interest as he has said many, many times.

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This.

If yesterday taught us anything it is that the US government is compromised and that other nations should treat it as a hostile nation.

The press conference was a Rorschach test. For MAGA and tankies this was a thrilling example of America First. You can never have too much contempt for those two bases. For normies it was watching the collapse of the international system which underpins our peace and prosperity. For Europe this looks like the beginning of the end of the transatlantic alliance.

MAGA worships power and hates humanity. They don't really care about Ukraine all that much. It's more about love for Putin. Like leftist love for socialism, it's all about aesthetics.. They both hate personal choice. A strongman like Putin reflected in Trump is what they want. Someone who restricts freedom.

If you changed players but kept the same script. Replace Zelenskyy with Netanyahu / replace Trump with Biden. The sudden ambush would still be shocking. The bottom line: America should support young democracies fighting for survival. Period.

Was walking past Downing Street this evening and a big crowd was waiting across the street. Our timing was perfect as we got to see Zelinsky’s motorcade leave. The positive energy was palpable

Yeah, the Ukrainian delegation received a heroes welcome in London. Meanwhile in Vermont where JD Vance is apparently skiing this weekend hundreds of pro-Ukrainian protesters gathered to protest Vance's vacation. Guy holding up a sign next to a lift line, "Vance is a traitor go ski in Russia." and "Our cows shit better ideas than Vance." Also, lol, "Vance skis in jeans":

https://x.com/mattmfm/status/1895891182322130957

https://x.com/Schizointel/status/1895920716828327941

https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status...24323476783177

(Would post pics instead of link if only that were easily done)

a non-elmo link: https://ftw.usatoday.com/story/sport...n/80983762007/

I assume he gets a private lift and the runs it serves

All you have to know about Vance is his one eighty when it comes to his opinion of Trump. He’s an insecure man with ambition and no scruples

"Vance skis in jeans"Just getting too surreal

Shooting ourselves in the dick to destabilize the world:

After yesterday's events in the White House, Haltbakk Bunkers, one of Norway's largest marine fuel companies, appears to have announced that it will no longer refuel American Navy vessels.

Haltbakk has called on other European companies to refuse service to American forces.

https://bsky.app/profile/osinttechni.../3ljdkdffwrk22

Funny how everything goes to shit when you ask someone pay up.

He turned down two other occasions to sign. He might have blown it intentionally.

I think a lot of this is just feeling out how serious people are.

Show us the signed loan agreement you scaled wanker.

Sounds like Repubs are secretly pissed with Trump:

Amid the diplomatic fallout, the Trump administration has privately signaled that it expects a public apology from Zelensky to mend relations, European officials told Bloomberg.

https://kyivindependent.com/starmer-...mberg-reports/