What does everyone think of Dolmar?
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What does everyone think of Dolmar?
do you have dealers near by?
they are suposed to be great saws but I had never heard of them before I started looking for a saw
no dealer = no support = no sale for me
I decided on a husky 353 next year
Yeah, there are 4 Full Service dealers within 10 miles of denver and another one 17 miles out
My 361 wails mind you it's ported and piped but I can do a full bar cut in softwood no problem (20 or 24) but kinda loud for people standing nearby
In my opinion unless you are actually cutting big wood... You cannot go wrong with a 346xp light and it absolutely rips. Pricey but quite a bit cheaper in the states.
In big wood I got a 066 or 090gear drive I could let go
Fine saw, but in general just harder to get parts for, even if you have a dealer nearby parts are not always as easily available as the big 2. Opinion based on a friend of mine who has one.Quote:
Originally Posted by gretch6364
Jonsered makes some nice saws too. A couple have turbos which really come in handy if you're cutting at altitude.
Ive had a dolmar 5100 for four or five years and have had no problems. When I was looking at saws it seemed like you could get more saw for your money with dolmar as opposed to the big two with the downside being less dealers/support which I didn't really care about as if and when I have a problem with mine Ill be fixing it myself. Also makita saws are the same as dolmar and can be found pretty cheap some times.
edit - I cut alot of wood with the saw when I was in Co at 9000+ ft and never had a problem with power
Yeah my 029 Super was a nice quiet saw until I ported it and opened up the muffler, no where near as loud as the two Homelite Zips I picked up the other day though. now I'm looking at pieces to make a nice quiet saw, found two boxes of 026 parts, looks like enough parts topiece one together.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffyg
361 stock is more than 90% of non-commercial firewood cutters in the west need.
Great saw.
Use a Husqvarna 455 rancher, takes about a week to cut a semi truck worth of logs into 16'' rounds working at a very casual pace, biggest logs are usually around 2'6'', which is annoying with a 20'' bar. I really like it, good vibration dampening, light, rarely stall it and always easy to start in the morning, larger fuel capacity would be nice though.
I'd kill for something that could handle a 4+ foot bar, might invest in one next year. I bet I could cut the whole load in a day no problem. It's not like I'm hauling this thing up a mountain.
A buddy of mine just scored an MS660, nearly new, on craigslist for, get this... $400. Even used, that saw in that condition would fly out the door for $1000. I've never gotten a good explanation of how that occurred, but the basic idea seems to be that it was sold out from under a guy getting divorced. I know for a fact that that stuff happens - I had an ex-gf give away a guitar and amp that I left in "our" apt when I bailed. Went back 2 weeks later to get my stuff and it was gone. Anyway, the whole point of this is to say that a 660 will do just what you asked for and you can periodically find screaming deals on craigslist. Same guy just bought a skid with about 2000 hours on it with a supposedly seized engine for $1200. All it needed was a starter. I wish I could be half as lucky as that dude...Quote:
Originally Posted by karpiel
It Is pretty much a husky some of the part #'s are even the same altho some things they try on a jonsered don't make it into husky production so the local husky dealer tells me AND actualy Husky own a number of other companies the names of which suprised the hell out of meQuote:
Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw
Brands owned
Global brands:
Husqvarna
Gardena
McCulloch
Diamant Boart
Tactical brands:
Jonsered
Poulan
Weedeater
Dixon
Regional brands:
Klippo
Flymo
Zenoah
Bluebird
and they own electrolux, make firearms and sewing machines
660 is a heavy ass saw for cutting fire wood out of 30 inch rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw
If you aren't cutting hard wood a 440 or 460 or Husky 372xp will do the same and will run a 32 inch bar no problem.
For $400 thats a great deal.
No doubt, although since handling one a bit, it's not as heavy as I imagined.. But I did a days worth of felling on a 25 degree slope a few weeks ago and didn't wish I had a heavier saw... lol. I run a 460 myself and that's only because I do all my cutting above 10,000'. But if you want to run a 48" bar and rip through stuff without trying like karpiel mentioned, I'd go for the 660 myself, even at sea level, and especially if I didn't have to hike, scramble, or climb with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by char
Got a Husky 435 coming for Christmas. I very seriously considered the pro models, and the bigger landowner models, but in the end decided to go with small and relatively light. It will be occasional use for brush cutting and storm cleanup. I'd like to fell a couple trees, but nothing over 14", and not without some help from a more experienced friend with a bigger saw. I'm just stoked that I don't have to borrow a chainsaw anymore.
Never been started so....Quote:
Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw
I think in my situation weight wouldn't be an issue at all, it would basically be used once or twice a month, and would allow me to get cords split, loaded and delivered effectively twice as fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by char
still have all of all of your fingers?
If you're with a Husqy 455 now, you'll be looking at way more than twice as fast with a 660. You'll cut through 26" diameter logs pretty much as fast as you can get somebody to set them up. If that's really your biggest round, and you live at some sort of reasonable altitude, you could just go with the 460 and a 28" bar and get almost the same effect for about $700 less. The Husqy 455 is only 3.5hp. The MS460 is 6hp. The MS660 is 7hp. IMNSHO, the 460 is the sweet spot for power and weight. Unbelievably, it's only 2 lbs heavier than your husky for nearly twice the output.Quote:
Originally Posted by karpiel
If you are cutting it to sell, you are going to cut into your profit margin just in terms of the amount of fuel you will burn in a 660 or 460.Quote:
Originally Posted by karpiel
441 will have better fuel consumption.
But, if you want a expensive, big, heavy, fuel sucking saw to run a 36 in bar in softwood, by all means, have at it. If you really want to do it fast, just run a 32 inch bar (effective length = 28 inches) on the 066.
Disclaimer: I have a fleet of around 20 044/440/441 series saws at work and 2 660's. The 660's don't get out much.
Sure do!Quote:
Originally Posted by telemike
My lot is right at 9000'. This is really helpful, I'm a complete chainsaw jong, before this all I had was a homelite electric for trimming small branches at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw
Stihl says the carb adjustment maxs out at 9,000'. The 460 will be great. The 660 will be incredible. Only you can decide how much money to put into incredible vs. great. Brand new, the 460 is about $1,000 and the 660 is about $1650. Deals are there to be had - download the craigslist alert app for your phone. Also, get a <$50 bench mount chain sharpener and a depth gauge tool.Quote:
Originally Posted by karpiel
Can't you have a shop reset the carb. limiter caps for your altitude?Quote:
Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw
Yep, you can jet the carb, but there's no making up for the power loss - you can only burn so much fuel for X amount of o2. Jetting the carb only keeps it from running rich. But I cut at 10 - 11K' and just run it stock - it runs fine. But for the 2 stroke gas engine, altitude power loss is 3.5% per 1000' ASL. The math on that SUUUUUUUCKS.Quote:
Originally Posted by char
Just saw this post - you got a pic of your fleet? That sounds awesome! And yeah, the 441 will consume less gas, but I've heard of many carb issues up until this year. I wouldn't get a used one. But you'd know better than me - do a lot of carb work on those 441s?Quote:
Originally Posted by char
They had a problem with the routing of the fuel line and the fuel lines getting eaten by ethanol.
Ours run fine. Most prefer the 440/044/046 though because of the springs between the handlebar and powerhead on the 441. Can make falling a pain in the ass unless you run only the 441 all the time.
Yeah, the spring handles are sweet. What about the 441 makes felling a PITA?Quote:
Originally Posted by char
I usually run a 460 for falling. I used a 441 a couple times just to try it out and my cuts were less precise. IMHO the springs provided too much play between the handle and the powerhead/bar. I'm sure over time I could get used to it.
Interesting... really never thought of that. Never ran a 441 for more than dicking around with somebody elses saw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Powder Ho
Did nimble nuts delete the 6 pages of drivel about being a well dressed chainsaw fashionista?
I did - but just in case there was any doubt about who the cunts are - nice job dragging the bullshit into last year's thread as well. :rolleyes2 Why don't you douchebags start your own thread about how much you hate PPE?Quote:
Originally Posted by shirk
People don't hate it.
Some people just have an opinion that if do everything right you might only need certain items of PPE.
Fuck! "Do everything right" - why didn't I think of that?!Quote:
Originally Posted by shirk
I am totally doing that from now on.
The right thing would be to delete, perhaps.
Thread back on topic, any of you have bench top chain sharpeners?
Harbor Freight Vs. Oregon, etc?
I have the generic harbor freight/northern tool $40 model. Works great.Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
Anybody ever spring for one of the expensive ones? What do you get for an extra $300?
You get some sweet black loafers, duh.
Who needs those? Everybody knows that real lumberjacks have $450 loafers already.Quote:
Originally Posted by rideit
We use one of these at work
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...psfc549978.png
Its alright. I would have to be sharpening a shit load of fucked up chains to even consider any sort of electric apparatus.
I use this-
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...psa485566f.jpg
Basic file + full skip chain= 10 mins to sharpen a chain. I can't do it that fast with a grinder.
do you notice any cutting difference between the round profile of the file sharpening and the angled cut of the grinder sharpener?Quote:
Originally Posted by Trapp
The profile of the grinding wheel is sized to match the tooth, same as the file.