but its America, didnt Trump tell us he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and get away with it ?Quote:
Originally Posted by jackstraw
The new Normal trend to shoot CEO's might be better than shooting kids and a lot of people seem to agree with it ??
Drive people to desperation and act shocked when they react irrationally.Quote:
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Why do you think he’s lost his fucking mind?Quote:
Originally Posted by jackstraw
Maybe he thought it was totally justified. This wasn’t some random lust killing, it was planned and purposeful.
Has a soldier that kills his enemy lost his mind?
Has a CEO that knowingly condones denial or delay of costly treatment that results in death lost his mind?
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im unfortunately far more familiar with the terrain than you are champQuote:
Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
I’ve seen this comment before, especially in The Daily Beast. My thought was I doubted that author in particular had experienced a personal tragedy. Everyone reacts differently, but people have expectations for what the reaction should be. With a separation in the mix, that means complicated grief.Quote:
Originally Posted by dan_pdx
Has America lost its mind ?
might be easier to at least ask
So there’s no security cameras in Maple Grove, an affluent suburb of MSP, of any kind? No traffic cameras, store security cameras etc?Quote:
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That would be a rhetorical questionQuote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
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Noted lying liar who lies Eric Adams said they have a suspect but aren't releasing it. Sure.
I was unfortunately there yesterday asshole, and those routes don’t have many businesses with cameras that would catch cars or people well. I’m sure there’s some Ring cameras or the like but I don’t know who or how quickly they’d turn it over (stores often turn over asap during business hours, getting from a home can take longer)Quote:
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Mayo Clinic = Cadillac healthcareQuote:
Originally Posted by rideit;
Yeah they're auto-denying benefits regardless of the facts of each case because they know that some people won't appeal, either because UHC makes it impossible by design, or because the patient is too ill/dies first.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
How is the shooter worse than the people that designed and built that system? Killing people at a distance by withholding care is still killing them.
No one knows his motives yet.
But regardless it’s not hard to imagine a health insurance plan denying some sort of life prolonging treatment under the explanation of “you’re gonna die either way”. In that situation I can see how someone or a family member might feel that murder is justified - in the same way a parent might feel that way towards a killer of a child.
Not justifying it - but I can understand it. And I dont think that is equivalent to losing one’s mind.
All proceeds go to cover creators out of pocket costs, and cash pay for denied claims.Quote:
Originally Posted by TStriker
Ya know, if that (or something similar) happened to my kid, id have a hard time not justifying it. Same sentiment if that (or something similar) happened to me in my early 20's when i was single with nothing tying me down.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennymac
If you sell me expensive services that will save my kids life, take my money, and then withhold those services as a matter of fiscal policy... i see that as premeditated murder in the commission of a robbery and the person who implemented that policy is ultimately responsible.
I understand why such vigilantism is illegal, and i agree that it should stay illegal (who you think is guilty is not always guilty and the punishment must fit the crime). But, i also struggle to find a moral problem with vigilantism if the party is in fact guilty, and the retribution is commensurate with the crime.
Slow your roll Triggered, it’s okay to be wrongQuote:
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dunfree is all knowing.
I cannot respond to this because it seems you've lost your fucking mind making those comparisons.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
Apparently the NYPD found his backpack in Central Park, with Monopoly money in it.
Get a grip, you’re the one who’s lost his fucking mind. If you can’t see the comparison in those examples you are stupid and ignorant. I can’t respond but I’m responding? MoronQuote:
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between this, the items left at the crime scene with dna on them, and the photos of bro's uncovered face, i'm starting to think he might not be that good at crime.Quote:
Originally Posted by The SnowShow
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/why-fin...hink-1.7137496
If this was netflix he would have been caught already
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Wow Canadian tv is… rigorous.Quote:
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Originally Posted by jackstraw
Well, at least he died doing what he loved: gloating to shareholders about how he'd turned healthcare into just another massive wealth transfer system to steal from the weakest and give it to the people who need it the least.
Usually, a gangster like this should be found with a wad of money crammed up his ass. (Monopoly money, perhaps) White collar sociopath no better than Tony Soprano, he just killed and robbed with an algorithm instead of a gun.
Boom. Love me some Neckdeep!Quote:
Originally Posted by neckdeep
I think the only learning moment for me is just a reminder of just how much ADD and apathy society actually has. An is, so this is how you just start a conversation about the negative effects of the ruthless for profit health insurance system?
What's next? What are Swifty and Kelce up to? Old and Orange? The border?
I swear, focus is so low and performative online outrage is so high, shit like this is cover for the actual bad shit going down. How many people got murdered yesterday?
About 68 murders yesterday.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm
Where’s Jack straw’s outrage?
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Originally Posted by neckdeep
QFP
I'm just disagreeing with the premise that the shooter is irrational or has absolutely lost his fucking mind. I don't think this is a Travis Bickle.
Quite the contrary. I see an organized, highly symbolic terrorist act. Message: this is not a victim, this is a crime boss suffering a crime boss's fate. Shot down on the pavement. I assume the monopoly money was originally intended to be left on the victim which is a message in the mob that someone was killed because they were too greedy.
Moreover, the public reaction shows the shooter is not irrational, just amoral. That's what's implied when millions of people say they don't condone but certainly understand. It's only irrational if he fears the consequences. If he felt like he has nothing more to lose, it's not "irrational". It's amoral AND the killer knows this because he's including gestures to justify his actions. I don't think he's crazy, I think this guy is just insanely pissed off.
I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore!Quote:
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This weekend she chose Vangroovy to wrap the Eras tour so the place is/ was full of Swift heads,Quote:
Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles
probably less chance of getting shot off the stage eh
Yeah, much more Howard Beale than Travis Bickle.
Jesus that's dark.
I like it.
It's great they got the CEO and all. But I see where him being a raging asshole remotely killing and maiming the sick and weak isn't his fault. If he hadn't killed them, the board would have hired someone else to do it. So kill the board members... But if they hadn't hired a ruthless CEO, the shareholders would have found a new board. Ofc, any of these people could theoretically refuse their role in evil, but the market would then favor another corporation that is evil and any nice people go away. The inhumanity is systemic in the current market structure. Should the wealthy die until it changes? Perhaps so, they have the most power to make change, and drove the changes that got us here.
The system needs to change. Blind pursuit of profit at the expense of humanity must be removed from corporate law.
^^^ Why do you hate capitalism?
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He doesn’t get a pass because someone else could have been the CEO because he chose his path and made decisions. I’ve thought about what kind of person can have a job like that, knowing what the impacts are on people, and live with a clear conscience, I’m not that person. You’d have to be a sociopath to disregard the negative impact you are responsible for just to increase profits.Quote:
Originally Posted by LongShortLong
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