Tipflation?!?!

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Originally Posted by Bunion 2020

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Yeah I am going to tip 4 bucks + for helping myself.:fuckyou:

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I wouldn't tip either on a sandwich I made myself with ingredients that I brought myself. Oh you didn't? Ok. You're actually just a cheap dipshit that wants things as inexpensive as possible regardless of who has to be exploited to do it. The workers here could be listed as cafe labor and paid under minimum wage. Lord knows minimum wage hasn't nearly kept up with the cost of living. That cost of living has risen along with all your other expenses like gas, clothes, food, and housing. But you don't see the greed of business owners behind that inflation. You only see your own isolated world and how you can take a little back by shitting on another worker. Definitely not going to ever need to team up with other workers to keep a business opener from taking away your healthcare or pension or shipping your job to a low wage country. Good thing you got ahead of that one sandwich maker by a full $4. Real winner [emoji1360]

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Originally Posted by paulster2626

A common myth. It is illegal to use donated money in this manner as a tax-deductible charity contribution.

At least in Canada it is, but laws in North America are often similar, so until you prove otherwise I'm gonna say this is the same in the good old US of A.

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LOL Business owners never do anything illegal especially with respect to tax chatting! /s

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Originally Posted by lepistoir

I wouldn't tip either on a sandwich I made myself with ingredients that I brought myself. Oh you didn't? Ok. You're actually just a cheap dipshit that wants things as inexpensive as possible regardless of who has to be exploited to do it. The workers here could be listed as cafe labor and paid under minimum wage. Lord knows minimum wage hasn't nearly kept up with the cost of living. That cost of living has risen along with all your other expenses like gas, clothes, food, and housing. But you don't see the greed of business owners behind that inflation. You only see your own isolated world and how you can take a little back by shitting on another worker. Definitely not going to ever need to team up with other workers to keep a business opener from taking away your healthcare or pension or shipping your job to a low wage country. Good thing you got ahead of that one sandwich maker by a full $4. Real winner [emoji1360]

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Lighten up Francis. The workers at Hungry Moose are paid better than average and given housing and ski passes too. Health insurance too if they want it. Everybody in Big Sky knows this.

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Originally Posted by lepistoir

I wouldn't tip either on a sandwich I made myself with ingredients that I brought myself. Oh you didn't? Ok. You're actually just a cheap dipshit that wants things as inexpensive as possible regardless of who has to be exploited to do it. The workers here could be listed as cafe labor and paid under minimum wage. Lord knows minimum wage hasn't nearly kept up with the cost of living. That cost of living has risen along with all your other expenses like gas, clothes, food, and housing. But you don't see the greed of business owners behind that inflation. You only see your own isolated world and how you can take a little back by shitting on another worker. Definitely not going to ever need to team up with other workers to keep a business opener from taking away your healthcare or pension or shipping your job to a low wage country. Good thing you got ahead of that one sandwich maker by a full $4. Real winner [emoji1360]

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Oh fuck off. A tip is for a service to the end user not included in the direct wages by the employer. An incentive - not to be relied upon for a basic human recovery for labour provided.

What tip should be applied by the end consumer to offset all the costs/inflation/whatever that the employer should be supplying? 10%? 20%? 50%? What a stupid system for basic compensation.

And FTR, I worked waiting tables/ slinging drinks to put myself through school (at a time when tuition allowed such). Couldn’t attempt that strategy now, it would be stupid to even try in all but the most lucrative of establishments. FWIW, one hotel I worked at had a 5-Star restaurant - and all the servers were from Europe, with papered education in service. Their wage was middle-class not minimum, the percentage tip was the same as ours at the regular dining establishment (but the bill the tip applied was much higher).

I’m just going to start tipping Google and AI for simply answering my questions.

"Tipping" for a premade sandwich at self-checkout is charity. There are dumber economic ideas out there, but they usually involve starry eyed college privelaged white kids talking about communism.

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Originally Posted by lepistoir

The workers here could be listed as cafe labor and paid under minimum wage.

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For what it's worth, Montana is one of the few states that doesn't have a tip credit--tipped employees have to get at least state minimum wage as base pay with tips on top; employers can't use the reported tips to make up the difference between $2.13 and minimum.

Personally, I like the impact that policy has on FOH workers (particularly that you can't get stuck doing pre- or post-shift work for $2.13/hr), but it probably hurts BOH if management is trying to keep to industry norms on labor as a percent of revenue.

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Originally Posted by rideit

I’m just going to start tipping Google and AI for simply answering my questions.

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Dude that's awesome. While you're at it you should tip me for being a genius too. I have all the answers and if I don't I can make shit up with the best of 'em.

Last night I was at the Sterling. Super high end night club in Aspen.

The smoking hot waitress handed me the card reader and all I see was 3%, 5%, 7% or 10%?

Then she explained that was optional.
On top of the 22% they’d already added!


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^^^WTF!

Hunh.

https://www.axios.com/local/denver/2...tips-reopening

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Originally Posted by Yonder_River

Just paid the invoice for hvac installation via that jobgetter app. Guess what? It included a tip line starting at 15%. The bill was $20k. I laughed, was about to skip it, but left a $100 for the installer since he was ukranian. It's officially everywhere now.

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Probably a serb pretending to be Ukrainian

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Originally Posted by rideit

Hunh.

https://www.axios.com/local/denver/2...tips-reopening

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That article buried the fact that they are upping wages to $30/hr.

However, you can only put so much info in an article title. My question is if they are paying $30 for back of house, etc.

Back to the top with some high quality footage:

https://nypost.com/2023/07/04/doorda...p-on-20-order/

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Originally Posted by ex-powderbroker

Back to the top with some high quality footage:

https://nypost.com/2023/07/04/doorda...p-on-20-order/

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Wow. So a 25% tip ain't good enough? Great example of why I hate the concept of PRE-tipping before a service is provided. I'd really like to assess the quality of said service before determining a tip, ya know? That delivery guy is definitely in the wrong line of work is he's so cranky about things.

I'm happy to report that I was north of the border at a popular brewpub, and the highest suggested percentage was 20.

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Originally Posted by rideit

However, you can only put so much info in an article title.

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That's no excuse for a shit clickbait article.

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Originally Posted by ex-powderbroker

Back to the top with some high quality footage:

https://nypost.com/2023/07/04/doorda...p-on-20-order/

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He shoulda kicked her stupid ass dog outta the way.

Tablet. WOld yo like to leave a tip offers random percentages.

I click no
I put $ in jar.

life moves on.

I had to calculate my own tip this morning. I'm getting too used to the tipping software; my math in my head skills are getting rusty.

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Originally Posted by old goat

I had to calculate my own tip this morning. I'm getting too used to the tipping software; my math in my head skills are getting rusty.

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If you don’t know what amount you should tip halfway through the transaction, the service was probably not worth the bonus.

Or you are just cheap ;)


One aspect of tipping I always found curious - why the proprietor’s bill was the primary measure to which one determines the value of the service provided by the staff. For me, I tend to tip higher as a percentage of the bill when I am having lunch at the local greasy spoon than at an upscale restaurant. And tip the guide that fills the freezer or is essential for my safety ski touring, more than one giving my family a tour on a manicured trail or an easy float down water that would barely classify as class 1. Why should the value of the product being consumed be the primary determining factor of the value of the service provided by a person? How is this a measure of a person’s worth (and any indication of the need for an amount of gratuity to offset the lack of compensation by an employer)?

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Originally Posted by old goat

I had to calculate my own tip this morning. I'm getting too used to the tipping software; my math in my head skills are getting rusty.

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move the decimal and double it and you get 20% its not advanced math

Doubling is so 2008.

I just double the tax. WA is 10%

You definitely don't need to spend two hundred dollars on a tip calculator.

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Originally Posted by BCMtnHound

If you don’t know what amount you should tip halfway through the transaction, the service was probably not worth the bonus.

Or you are just cheap ;)


One aspect of tipping I always found curious - why the proprietor’s bill was the primary measure to which one determines the value of the service provided by the staff. For me, I tend to tip higher as a percentage of the bill when I am having lunch at the local greasy spoon than at an upscale restaurant. And tip the guide that fills the freezer or is essential for my safety ski touring, more than one giving my family a tour on a manicured trail or an easy float down water that would barely classify as class 1. Why should the value of the product being consumed be the primary determining factor of the value of the service provided by a person? How is this a measure of a person’s worth (and any indication of the need for an amount of gratuity to offset the lack of compensation by an employer)?

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Yeah, I've often wondered about that--why should the waiters in a fancy place get much bigger tips. OTOH they probably get tips from a lot few tables every night, so maybe it evens out?

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Originally Posted by Woodsy

move the decimal and double it and you get 20% its not advanced math

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Easy for you to say. You're not 73. (If I have to calculate the tip I round the dollar abount up to the next $10, eliminate the 0, and double, for 20%+. So $85.76 becomes $18 tip. The other day I just temporarily forgot the method, like I someiimes call the dog by the previous dog's name. Everyone gets the same tip. That way it feels to me like it's a peer-to-peer transaction, not a scrap thrown to a servant based on how obsequious they are.)

Usually fancy = fewer table turns
And a different level of service

Seems to me that the level of service has more to do with how well the place is staffed, how well the kitchen is run, etc, than with the individual efforts of the wait staff. What constitutes good service also depends on the kind of place it is -- prompt service is less important in a special occasion restaurant where people are happy to east slowly and linger with loved ones.

Having just returned from yurp I’m once again rejoicing at the pleasure of the dining experience over there - great food, great service, good prices, and no phucking extra tax and tip bullshit .

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Originally Posted by old goat

Seems to me that the level of service has more to do with how well the place is staffed, how well the kitchen is run, etc, than with the individual efforts of the wait staff. What constitutes good service also depends on the kind of place it is -- prompt service is less important in a special occasion restaurant where people are happy to east slowly and linger with loved ones.

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You may be okay with waiting a little longer to order or have your entrees cleared in a nicer restaurant, but you're probably going to be pretty annoyed if the food isn't brought out promptly when it's ready.

IMO, it's a different skill set between something like a family pizza place or a sports pub and somewhere with a proper wine list. Hustle is important in both, but generally speaking customers shouldn't see visible hustle in a fine dining venue but probably are going to appreciate the pizza server quick stepping back to the kitchen so they get their food before the next table places an order.

But yes, management has the biggest impact on your experience, in part because a restaurant that generally runs well and encourages servers to make things right is likely to attract servers who are more interested in guest satisfaction.

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Originally Posted by dcpnz

Having just returned from yurp I’m once again rejoicing at the pleasure of the dining experience over there - great food, great service, good prices, and no phucking extra tax and tip bullshit .

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This x1000

I'm just waiting for the tip option at the self checkouts..

Ordered a pizza on line. Paid with card and added 25% tip. Excepted wait time was 45 minutes. Go in to get the pizza and the guy says sorry were slammed. It will be at least another hour for your pizza. So not wanting to wait I ask for a refund. Guy says give me last 4 of the card and I will take care of it. Checked my account today. The pizza was refunded but they kept the tip. So did I just tip the guy for refunding my money?

You are a prince of a fellow.

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Go back and get that tip for nothing and never go back

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you stingy fucks should all learn to cook

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Originally Posted by BFD

Ordered a pizza on line. Paid with card and added 25% tip. Excepted wait time was 45 minutes. Go in to get the pizza and the guy says sorry were slammed. It will be at least another hour for your pizza. So not wanting to wait I ask for a refund. Guy says give me last 4 of the card and I will take care of it. Checked my account today. The pizza was refunded but they kept the tip. So did I just tip the guy for refunding my money?

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check your cc online, if the transaction was never settled, the tip may not have ever gone through. You said you checked your acct, does it show two transactions, one for the higher tipped amount and a refund for the lower non-tipped amount? If so, yes, you tipped for the privilege of not getting a pizza. But I would go in to the store with that info, just on principle, because that's even more fucked than a lot of the other stuff in here.

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Originally Posted by Woodsy

you stingy fucks should all learn to cook

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I do, mainly why I don't eat in restaurants. By the same token, you should get a real job. See how pointless that is?