Neighbors...

it says call the police non-emergency line....

Yeah, definitely want to document it. Federal crime I think.

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Originally Posted by mfcf13

Well if she does get a transfer, at least it will be a fresh start. The cops and many of the people in your town just sound awful. Even suburbs have nature access (even if it's not shoreline) and if it's a bigger locale, you can blend in. Anonymity is great and you will love it after having to deal with the small town crap you've chronicled here.

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Somebody made me literally cry the other week. I held it together until I was alone, but it was awful and I still feel bad like 2 weeks later.
This shitty woman was on the bus and the conversation was this:
-her complaining about student loans
- I asked what she studied in college
-her dumb college then all her work history which included this factory job in a factory that doesn’t exist anymore
-me asking about that old factory and the job
-her asking why
-me explaining that I grew up here but moved just as I was becoming an adult so lots of those kinds of places were familiar to me but I never knew anyone who worked there so it’s a lingering curiosity. I give another defunct factory as an example
-she says she knows that factory because her friend lived next to it
-I say yeah me too

She then goes into a whole story about her friend living next door to the school teacher who murdered his family, and do I remember that guy?

I’m like, yeah that was my dad.

She just plows on like I hadn’t said anything, like basically what everyone in my town in 1985 thought of my family, not recognizing that I had just told her that was us.

I say again, yeah, that was us, that was my dad, you were friends with Mary next door…yellow house, ford thunderbird. Her brother Ronnie died in a car wreck.

She said yeah, that’s them, sorry about your dad, then she shut the fuck up, and I dropped her off.

I held it together and drive far enough so she couldn’t see me stop and I sat there with my stomach in a knot and tears in my eyes, getting later and later on my route, wanting to call the office and tell them I felt sick and couldn’t finish, but some other guy’s mom had a heart attack that day so there was no way.

So I put my sunglasses on and some music and I finished my shift, because…what else was I going to do I guess.
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After work, with the sun setting, I rode my motorcycle over to that now-gentrified area, factory long gone, replaced with condos. Railroads long gone, replaced with bike paths. I shut the bike off and looked around at the house, and the rest of the block, thinking about all those people and how they were scared of us, or pitied us, or wanted nothing to do with us…how my whole upbringing was tainted, how every interaction was off one way or the other and I never even knew it. How a few times some kid or adult would be new in town and they would be so nice and normal toward me, but I never understood why, because I was a little kid and didn’t understand the way an entire town learns your last name and even 35 years later that’s what your name means, or what the image of your home means to them. But as I thought, and tried to make some sense and do some thinking, 3 different yuppies came out to “say hi” and “can I help you?” meaning to get me to leave.
I couldn’t stand the idea of dealing with more cops so I left.

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Originally Posted by mfcf13

I would go a step further and also tape a copy of a letter from a lawyer that forcefully clarifies the easement and spells out possible consequences if he continues his behavior. then you will really get to watch him steam.

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Something along those lines. Have a lawyer send him a cease and desist letter, he's interfering with your quiet enjoyment of your property. If he continues to do so, you can threaten to file a quiet title action against him.

Damn IAS, just, … so sorry.

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Originally Posted by schindlerpiste

I don't own a BB gun. placed to emphasize frustration. You are right. It is impossible to blame the dog. However, more than a few dogs in UT are shot with more than BBs every year for trespassing.

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Why not make friends with the neighbor dog. You like dogs, it’s a dog…why not be buddies?

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Originally Posted by highangle

You're a regular lord of cheap shot karma, aren't you? Be careful not to crash into a dumpster.

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I have a covy of bikes and love riding. Hate douchebags that make road riding difficult.

Step up, tell your neighbor to stop killing the birds.

Back in the day th house next door was rented to a matre 'd waiter type who started bringing the party home on weekends to the point they were playing foot ball at 4am in the street and swearing at the neighbors wife

Sunday 9am i back my dirt bike with the loud pipe up to buddies window, crank it up and proceed to do flat track laps in my still dirt back yard, I do this every 15 min till buddy went to work at 4pm so he got zero sleep

not a word was ever said but it was clear if he ever expected to get any sleep in this neighbor hood he needed to make better choices in life and so the apres closing party moved somewhere else

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Originally Posted by schindlerpiste

Sounds like a good neighbor. Everyone makes mistakes, especially with pets. The important thing is they rectified the situation. I live in a fairly new neighborhood where there are maybe 20 homes. Fences are not allowed. My "next door" neighbor (who is approximately 200 yards from my house) has this golden retriever that loves my yard. Everyday their dog visits my yard, chews my dogs' bones, urinates on my grass and plays with whatever toys are left out. The first time it happened my pup was 10 weeks old and didn't have all her shots (Parvo). My other dog is a poorly adapted rescue who doesn't like other dogs and barks profusely every time the golden visits. I rang the neighbor's doorbell and very politely asked them to control their animal and not let him visit my yard. .....Lip service but no relief. The second time, I did the same thing. The dog has visited the past 5 days and nights. My wife, who, believe it or not, is not nearly polite as me leashed the dog, walked it home and sternly admonished the neighbor. Today I contacted the HOA. Next, I'm thinking a BB gun in the ass greeting.

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If it continues, take it to the human society as a stray. The owners will have to pay to get it out of jail and usually the fines increase each time.

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Originally Posted by Danno

Something along those lines. Have a lawyer send him a cease and desist letter, he's interfering with your quiet enjoyment of your property. If he continues to do so, you can threaten to file a quiet title action against him.

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Here's an interesting little case from Ak...

https://aloinc.com/driveway-easement...supreme-court/

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Originally Posted by old_newguy

Damn IAS, just, … so sorry.

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Me too. Vibes, or internet hugs, or whatever I can try to do from here.

IAS, please, please write down your stories in an organized fashion. You have a gift.

And once again, I support ^^^
You have a gift with words.
And I feel for you - it sucks when people bring up shit that unleashes a tsunami of grief, intentionally, cluelessly or otherwise.

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Originally Posted by rideit

IAS, please, please write down your stories in an organized fashion. You have a gift.

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QFT.

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Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy

Why not make friends with the neighbor dog. You like dogs, it’s a dog…why not be buddies?

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I did. But, there are many reasons why I don't want her in my yard. I can be friends in the open space, the street, the trail or anyplace else, but she has no business in my yard and on my property.

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Originally Posted by Salvelinusconfluentus

If it continues, take it to the human society as a stray. The owners will have to pay to get it out of jail and usually the fines increase each time.

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No... We will see what happens with the HOA. Although the CC&R says no fence, maybe I can get some sort of exemption. It's a nice dog. Too bad the new neighbors are self-centered. I don't think that it is too much of an ask for them to respect my property. We'll see. Asking them to place their dog on a long lead is apparently too much.

IAS, all my neighbors are here.
Without getting all Mr. Rogers, the shitstreams of the past are past.
Ski here now.
We value you.

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Originally Posted by TBS

At our last house in PDX there was a rental across the street occupied by some college students. At first it was fine, there’d be the occasional party but nothing obnoxious.

But over time the mix of tenants became increasingly sketchy. The inflection point came about three years in when one of them parked a parts car on the street to fix his vehicle.

Then they spent until like 0400 that night working on it and trying to get it to start. Came out the next morning to a pile of junk and a bunch of tools in the street.

So I went thru the tools and took ones I didn’t already have back to the garage. Came back out with a snow shovel, scooped up the rest of the shit, took it to their front door. When I knocked the front door fell open so I dumped the crap inside and walked away. Then called the city about a derelict vehicle on the street.

One of them came over later and put a note under the mat telling me he wasn’t afraid of me.

So I started calling the police non-emergency number every time there was the slightest parking infraction or other problem. Which happened a lot. Probably five of their vehicles were towed for various reasons, many parties were ended by the cops and the tenants started leaving.

Six months later the house was declared a Chronic Public Nuisance and the house demolished. Owner tried to sell the lot but there were a bunch of permitting issues (lot was located at the “headwaters of Fanno Creek”) so it’s now overrun with brush.

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You're the asshole that had my car towed ?!!!!! I have vowed never to rent to college kids or anyone around that age. Wife and I just had a disagreement about me not wanting to rent to my own kids when they need a place to live soon. Somehow she's already forgotten what a shithole my 23 yo recent college kids place looked like. I don't see anything changing soon for him in terms of taking care of a home. Fuck that shit, let some other slum lord handle their immaturity.
You must have lived not too far from my childhood digs in SW Pdx.

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Originally Posted by wooley12

Walp, I'm at the beginning of a neighbor problem, just don't know what neighbor. In late May, the Mrs and I went away for a week and stopped the mail. When we got back, I found this Postit was in my mailbox. I didn't tell my wife because I know my wife. Jump ahead late July and we find that the garden hose in our yard had been cut in the night with garden shears in 10 places and a small important figurine from the garden was taken. We found it when the wife posted about it on HOA FB page and someone said they saw it 25 yds up the trail to the lake that's behind our house. So we have it back, in the house. What's that unsigned note say to you? Neighborly tip or veiled threat? Two events not connected?

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“Keep your head up” sounds to me more like a note of support and encouragement, rather than a veiled threat. Now what would have prompted that, I obviously don’t have the background information to even speculate about. Maybe a neighbor heard something about a conflict brewing between you and some other neighbor and wanted to show you some support, or something.

The cut hose sounds like kids. Or perhaps someone thinks you are using too much water on your yard in a drought situation. Yeah, who knows. Definitely report it and document everything.

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Originally Posted by billyk

“Keep your head up” sounds to me more like a note of support and encouragement, rather than a veiled threat. Now what would have prompted that, I obviously don’t have the background information to even speculate about. Maybe a neighbor heard something about a conflict brewing between you and some other neighbor and wanted to show you some support, or something.

The cut hose sounds like kids. Or perhaps someone thinks you are using too much water on your yard in a drought situation. Yeah, who knows. Definitely report it and document everything.

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i think it is entirely plausible that whomever wrote that note has no idea what "keep your head up means" and fully intended it to be threatening. i doubt the hose cutters are kids. kids TP, egg, and ding dong ditch houses. they don't cut up hoses. that said, the garden gnome fuckery does sound like kids. well, at least when viewed irrespectively of the other happenings. is this your front or back yard? perhaps it doesn't make a difference but i construe someone going into your backyard as a much more brazen and alarming act.

oh, i forgot to get to the whole point of my speculation. if something happens again, consider a cheap and discreet camera.

Just wanted to check in again and say I love my neighbors

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Originally Posted by Sharon Needles

A new neighbor moved in next door so I went to meet him. Said he is a professor of logic. Seems kinda weird so I asked him to explain what it was... so the professor asked if I had a doghouse. I said yes, so he asked if I had a dog. I said yes, so he asked if I had a family.... yes, so he asked if I was heterosexual. Well yes, and the professor said that that finding out he was heterosexual from having a doghouse was logic.

So the FedEx guy stopped by with a package and I was telling him about the new neighbor and mentioned that he was a professor of logic. The guy wanted to know what the hell a professor of logic does.

So I asked if he had a doghouse. The guy said no. So I said, "Oh, you're gay.”

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh3TI3iMb1E

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Originally Posted by old_newguy

Damn IAS, just, … so sorry.

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Seconded.

Also, if you write a series of short essays, you would make some coin just by selling it on this forum to us mags. Possible title for the anthology (short and sweet): "Marquette".

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Originally Posted by billyk

“Keep your head up” sounds to me more like a note of support and encouragement, rather than a veiled threat.

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Maybe Poonam was trying to say “keep your chin up” but got the engrish a little wrong?

^^^Funny.

I'm going to make a report and get a camera. Bears, cougars, deer, elk and coyotes have wandered into the yard. Would be fun to see what else.

Pretty sure it is political. Pretty sure it isn't the guy with the trump shrine who tossed a beer can in front of my car as I passed his house a while back. We've had a talk. Top suspect on my list is the trump landscaper 4 houses away. The clue that the figurine was on the trail a short distance towards the wilderness is what a dummy would do thinking he was being smart and misdirecting. 30 yard walk from the landscapers back yard to mine via the trail.

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Originally Posted by highangle

See edits, but I think it also violates our liberal Defense of Life and Property statutes, if I want or ever need to get chickenshit about it. Pretty sure I got my point across. I hadn't really explored the hunting laws/protected species angle to this thing though...And you're also exactly right about it's how much I want to invest in it...

Can't bring our little buddies back, but that's good to have in my pocket. And I do wish I had recorded it, and can't fix that either. And chances are I came on too strong and this father/son team will dwell on me rather than on not murdering helpless little animals like chicken-killin dogs.

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Fuck those guys, HA. There's a high road because somebody has to take it.

Start shooting their pets.

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Originally Posted by wooley12

Walp, I'm at the beginning of a neighbor problem, just don't know what neighbor. In late May, the Mrs and I went away for a week and stopped the mail. When we got back, I found this Postit was in my mailbox. I didn't tell my wife because I know my wife. Jump ahead late July and we find that the garden hose in our yard had been cut in the night with garden shears in 10 places and a small important figurine from the garden was taken. We found it when the wife posted about it on HOA FB page and someone said they saw it 25 yds up the trail to the lake that's behind our house. So we have it back, in the house. What's that unsigned note say to you? Neighborly tip or veiled threat? Two events not connected?

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maybe you live near a hockey coach?

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Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater

Fuck those guys, HA. There's a high road because somebody has to take it.

Start shooting their pets.

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Never go full Alaskan!

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Originally Posted by schindlerpiste

No... We will see what happens with the HOA. Although the CC&R says no fence, maybe I can get some sort of exemption. It's a nice dog. Too bad the new neighbors are self-centered. I don't think that it is too much of an ask for them to respect my property. We'll see. Asking them to place their dog on a long lead is apparently too much.

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Yeah, thats my all else has failed and this is continuing to happen on a very regular basis solution...

For OP how about suggesting an invisible fence for the neighbors? Might solve the issue

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Originally Posted by babybear

For OP how about suggesting an invisible fence for the neighbors? Might solve the issue

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It'll work great, so long as the neighbors agree to wear their collars at all times.

Or see recent electric tennis racket comments in another thread

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Originally Posted by babybear

For OP how about suggesting an invisible fence for the neighbors? Might solve the issue

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We have 3x. I'd place one on my property, if the owners agreed to have their dog wear the collar

We used to live in a small townhouse complex. There wasn't a ton of parking inside, so some people had to park on the street outside the complex. The neighbor across the cul-de-sac from us had three vehicles, with the third being a rusty old Chev that was basically used for dump runs. How a family of 5 managed to always have a truck full of garbage(that couldn't be recycled or get picked up on garbage day) is beyond me. This truck was always parked on the street outside, and unfortunately that happened to be right outside our kitchen window. And always have some kind of junk in it, whether that is a broken bed frame, TV stand, or old kids toys. It only moved once it became too full of garbage so that it had to be driven out somewhere and emptied.
This gentleman also sat on the condo board with my wife. About 8 months prior, a new couple moved in and started slowly taking over the board and the complex through lies and bullying, but that's another story.
So one day I decided that the best course of action would be not to confront the owners, but to do something petty and underhanded that I could laugh about every day. So I bought a big bag of birdseed. And every afternoon as I drove home, I would toss a handful in the box or around the truck.
Fast forward about 12 months, and we've sold the condo and moved to a different town. We invite some friends from the condo(who also sat on the board) over to our new house. He begins to tell us about how our old neighbor would complain at meetings about the birds in their neghborhood because they were always shitting all over his truck.

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We used to live in a small townhouse complex. There wasn't a ton of parking inside, so some people had to park on the street outside the complex. The neighbor across the cul-de-sac from us had three vehicles, with the third being a rusty old Chev that was basically used for dump runs. How a family of 5 managed to always have a truck full of garbage(that couldn't be recycled or get picked up on garbage day) is beyond me. This truck was always parked on the street outside, and unfortunately that happened to be right outside our kitchen window. And always have some kind of junk in it, whether that is a broken bed frame, TV stand, or old kids toys. It only moved once it became too full of garbage so that it had to be driven out somewhere and emptied.
This gentleman also sat on the condo board with my wife. About 8 months prior, a new couple moved in and started slowly taking over the board and the complex through lies and bullying, but that's another story.
So one day I decided that the best course of action would be not to confront the owners, but to do something petty and underhanded that I could laugh about every day. So I bought a big bag of birdseed. And every afternoon as I drove home, I would toss a handful in the box or around the truck.
Fast forward about 12 months, and we've sold the condo and moved to a different town. We invite some friends from the condo(who also sat on the board) over to our new house. He begins to tell us about how our old neighbor would complain at meetings about the birds in their neghborhood because they were always shitting all over his truck.

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Thanks for the laugh. I dig passive aggressive shit.

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Yeah that's pretty good. Gonna keep that idea in my back pocket!

I haven’t read all of this thread, but I used to have a nice enough, but weird neighbor until last September when he moved. Our new neighbors are a nice young couple and the guy works for the forest service. If you don’t know, we’ve had a shit ton of fires here, but one started only a quarter-mile away and went up big and fast, and the wind was blowing our way, and this neighbor guy sent three helicopters on it ASAP and put that thing out.
I just wanna say that I have a cool neighbor, and a definite upgrade from the old guy that mowed his dirt early every Sunday morning.

Someone here posted a story once … maybe it’s in this thread… that he kept putting a little bit of oil under an asshole neighbors car…. Resulting in many confusing trips to the dealership…

Like the birdseed… that too was gold.

And my neighbors are all totally awesome.
We all get along. I parked 12 cars in my neighbors front lawn Saturday for a party at my house. Everyone on this little corner is super cool.

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So one day I decided that the best course of action would be not to confront the owners, but to do something petty and underhanded that I could laugh about every day. So I bought a big bag of birdseed. And every afternoon as I drove home, I would toss a handful in the box or around the truck.

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We're experiencing some birdseed terrorism at our new apartment rental that made me think of this thread. The flat roofline of our ground floor unit sticks out past the exterior wall of the upstairs neighbor, and we have skylights in each of the bedrooms back there - including directly over our bed. Pretty much every morning since we moved in we've woken up to the (late 40's?) couple upstairs throwing birdseed onto the flat roof, attracting a flock of pigeons that loudly stomp around on and shit all over the skylights. The landlord apparently had the same issue with them before so they know it's disruptive. I'm trying to get into some kind of a zen mental state before I go over there, but we're expecting our first kid in a month, and if these fucking pigeons wake him up everyday I'm going to lose my goddamn mind.

/rant