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Hey mikey b, found this browsing reviews, got anymore of those discounts?Quote:
Originally Posted by ~mikey b
Cool beans. Talking 🥓:
https://www.ortovox.com/us-en/shop/c...x-diract-voice
Some thoughts upon finally touching a Mammut Barryvox vs the Pieps Pro BT w/ recall carrier. [I didn’t feel like I needed the features of the Barryvox S, but the recall beacons I received from Pieps/BD were the Pro version so that’s what I have, even tho I warrantied Sport DSP’s. That unit difference doesn’t feature in my comments below.]
1) I didn’t realize Mammut was using a plastic frame as a carrier too. This softens some of my angst & anger at Pieps re: the recall plastic frame…some, not all. Mammut’s frame isn’t a switch restriction device, tho, ie…not a crutch/afterthought.
2) The Barryvox feels smaller in the hand; more ergonomic for having seemingly the same mass; you can wrap your hand around it. The Pieps beacon is flat & wide & more slab-like. They were probably trying to create slimmer bulk for carrying. I think I like Mammut’s shaping better.
3) The Pieps/BD slider switch sucks balls in comparison to the Mammut switch. I used to think it was fine and usable. Now, having used a properly useful switch, all I can say is: at least you should only need to be switching it on once a day & off once a day…(stay safe out there!)
4) The Pieps recall plastic frame really does its job and restricts the slider switch from going anywhere while it is in the Send position. I have to concede that. It does mitigate the problem very clearly.
5) The Barryvox does not seem to take lithium batteries. That’s disappointing after having used lithium in the Pieps. I really liked the lack of acid leak threat AND the longer life, despite the cost $$$.
5) I’m torn on the Pieps. The electronics are top notch, and the performance for searches is really unimpeachable. The switch is not good.
6) The Mammut is simple and effective. Group check is straight forward. Signal acquisition at distance is impressive. The switch fucking works. Carrying bulk seems good for pocket or frame sling.
So, I have (2) Pieps Pro BT’s w/ +/- 30 days on them for sale for $100ea + ship [established mags first, PayPal F&F or add fees]. I do not know if the 5yr warrantee is transferable, but hopefully we can work that out.
(& thx to mikeyb for helping me switch…!)
happy to help
I agree with all of your points and prefer the Mammut for the same reasons you do.
I was happy with the old Pieps until my switch broke. I was happy with newer Pieps until I got the Barryvox.
I have barely used the BCA Tracker 4 I got in May.
I've been happy with the Mammut as well. Read the manual to verify but I believe it can use lithiums as well.
I will research that again - that would be greatQuote:
Originally Posted by John_B
The "S" version can use lithium batteries.Quote:
Originally Posted by ::: :::
https://static.mammut.com/file/Barry...e-Guide_EN.pdfQuote:
Power supply: 3 x LR03 1.5 V Alkaline (AAA)
or 3 x LR92 1.5 V Lithium (AAA).
Yeah, no lithium for reg Barryvox
First line in the Batteries section: “Only use alkaline (LR03/AAA) batteries of the same type.”
https://static.mammut.com/file/Barry...e-Guide_EN.pdf
Ah, my apologies. I misread and assumed you had the S. Good job not trusting me!Quote:
Originally Posted by ::: :::
Just remember that you have to start off with a new set of lithium batteries then use them continuously.
The remaining power is a calculation based on cumulative use in the beacon, since the remaining power can't be measured as with alkaline batteries.
Otherwise, if you use some other lithium batteries, the power might die off with almost no warning.
Maybe I'm an old curmudgeon, but I still think, despite the power and life, lith don't belong in transceivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan S.
This thread is confusing, can someone tell me which beacon to buy?
Mammut
check yer PMs
Do the codes works on "packages"? Looking to set me and the boy up with a BSP kitQuote:
Originally Posted by ~mikey b
I believe they work on your whole order
Yabba Dabba Dooo
thx mikey b
FWIW, I tried to buy the package with the code and it was ultimately rejected, but the preview screen showed the full discount and then I clicked buy and was charged the full amount, got this from support "I just checked, and the reason is because our codes and discounts can not be applied to Barryvox or the Eiger extreme collection, as well as items on sale." I went ahead and cancelled the order.
Well that sucks balls. Was gonna pull the trigger this morning. Maybe I'll have to piece it together then
I'll update
Question; the light and touring packages seem to be only a few ounces light than the standard package, is it worth it ? Pros and cons?
I think the “light” is for skimo, shorter folding items to fit in smaller pack & vaguely lighter weightQuote:
Originally Posted by k2skier112
last I knew those codes worked for Barryvox
obviously, YMMV
It did for me on two in one order
Done, stoked. Thx!
fkna
Do you have any more discount codes available to share? Looking to get my first kit so this is very timely.
Thank you!
The outdoorgearlab reviews have some feedback that the fine search on the Barryvox (non S model) is not as accurate or fast as others. Any complaints about this in your testing?
I do not agree. I find it just as accurate and just as fast.
Problem is, people often move too fast in the fine search, and that affects speed and accuracy. When you’re down in fine search, go slow to go fast. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast.
Same. When compared to a newer Pieps and my old DSP, my Barryvox is at least slightly faster and considerably more intuitive at a fine search.
Holy shit, really? Hate to break it to you but the biggest thing that slows down beacon searches isn't the beacon.Quote:
The outdoorgearlab reviews have some feedback that the fine search on the Barryvox (non S model) is not as accurate or fast as others. Any complaints about this in your testing?
yeah but the reviews say…….
Outdoor gear lab reviews are bad even when they hire qualified reviewers. Their way of categorizing and quantifying always directs focus away from what matters to what doesn't.
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Originally Posted by m5d5cb
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Originally Posted by ~mikey b
Remember that a beacon is sending out a signal only once a second (+/- 0.3 seconds).Quote:
Originally Posted by Falcon3
With the exception of multi-burial searches, any beacon is spending most of its time just waiting for the next signal to arrive so that it can be processed.
I suspect that the perception of beacon speed for single-burial searches is just that, a perception, and not the reality of how quickly the beacon is processing and displaying valuable information.
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I haven't had the need to beep for way too many years. But now that I'm back in the mountains it seems silly not to have the equipment.
I don't and won't likely tour. I will practice and learn. Uses will be lift accessed terrain like the ridge, hobacks and Jackson slackcountry (etc.). Simple would be the best.
Barryvox seems the recent darling. Any reason to not go that route? Others I should consider?
Any Mikey hookups left to sway my purchase?
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yup
The man just keeps on giving. If I didn’t say it before, saying it now. Thanks for helping me replace my pieps
I do what I can
I only used the code once; how long does it last?Quote:
Originally Posted by ~mikey b
until it doesn’t work
If you've got a spare code to toss my way, I'd greatly appreciate it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~mikey b