We've come full circle!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Conundrum
TSG owns Stumptown and Backcountry!
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We've come full circle!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Conundrum
TSG owns Stumptown and Backcountry!
Also Motosport and Bergfreunde.de. And WhiskeyMilitia, if they are still alive.Quote:
Originally Posted by ExPowderSnob
So what happens when all the words are trademarked? I guess start making them up--like the names of heavily advertised, $100,000 a year drugs. They come up with some weird names for those.
Your dad is Steve Bannon?Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
Looks like Cripple Creek Backcountry is on notice too.
That one was terrible. Here's slightly different one: When Avery Brewing started out Adam Avery had a dog named Elle. He named his brown ale after it. Elle magazine sued him. He was tiny at the time so he changed the name of his beer. And his dog.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
This is from the website allaboutbeer.com:
You would think that the average consumer could tell the difference between a beer and a women’s fashion magazine. Yet the publishers of Elle, recalls Adam Avery, brought legal action over a brand called Elle’s Brown Ale, named after the brewer’s late Labrador retriever. Avery resolved the dispute by adding an “i” to make Elle “Ellie.”
We were in the right,” says Avery, “but I didn’t want to spend time in court. Some people might say, ‘I’m going to fight tooth and nail,’ but not me. The problem with trademarks is that you’ve got to spend a lot money to keep them.”
Hedge fund is slang for maybe a certain type of PE firm. Unless I have my nouns mixed up. They both often do LBOs of entire companies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conundrum
Would only be a great call out if he retired from there and I had the trust fund to go with it.
The great vampire squid.
stuck-I'd go with your signature on this one.
Although they may sometimes overlap, hedge funds and private equity are different. Leverage buyouts are the defining activity of Private Equity. Both, however, are alternative investments.Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
I think we'll need to know where your Dad works.Quote:
Originally Posted by f=ma
If you really want to get aggravated, review their Terms of Use. For the privilege of buying from them, they impose mandatory arbitration with a class action waiver, albeit you may opt out within 30 days by writing to their legal counsel, and limit your damage claims to $100 or the price of your purchase. Of course, since mandatory arbitration is so wonderful they have carved out their own trademark claims from being subject to arbitration. Way to stick it to your customers!
Maybe f=ma is stuckathuntermtn's dad?Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
Maybe SoftBank?Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
Still waiting for my cease and desist letter in the mail!
Time for the good ol'fashun boycott. Find something cheaper on backcountry website... hit up evo and their price match!
Anyone else get an email last night from Backcountry announcing a new membership program with cash back and some other things? seems like odd timing.... It's called "Summit Club"
On that note, EVO.com is run by a diehard former pro skier (Bryce Phillips), has three brick and mortar locations that are basically community hubs by themselves, and is a rad company all the way around.
Unless they trademark EVO and start going after extra virgin olive oil makers the world over....they'll be getting my money. Way smaller selection than BC.com, but a good online biz to support.
Great sale on skis going on right now too - ends in a few hours.
Background: https://www.evo.com/crew
Story: https://www.powder.com/the-peoples-skier/
Whoa, this is some hardcore fluffery https://www.outsideonline.com/239917...bryce-phillips
Funny you say that, I actually wound up buying a bunch of gear when the shopping list said EVOO. I thought it was weird that it was listed with fruit and vegetables, but who am I to question the list? Anyway, probably a great lawsuit there.Quote:
Originally Posted by meter-man
we need to flood the email and chat and phone contacts and tell these assholes to fuck off
He work's at Microsoft, and if you're not nice to me, I'll have him ban your XBOX account for life.Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
In case anyone's wondering and it hasn't been posted (didn't wade through this whole thread), here are the brands owned by TSG. I'm not going to shop any of these companies so long as this ridiculousness continues.
http://www.tsgconsumer.com/portfolio
Please be respectful to the gearheads and CSRs and let them know it’s nothing personal at all, you just want their boss’s boss’s boss’s boss’s IP firm and brand advisors to fuck off because they are going after their very own customers, people who help make the outdoors recreation ecosystem meaningful with valuable services and goods not offered by a mega conglomerate like TSG Consumer Group, so the overlords not need prey on every single company that potentially maybe just a little bit threatens the monolithic brand value of a single fucking word.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~mikey b
yup
I have not shopped at backcountry dot com for years. I always find better deals elsewhere. I get pro deals mostly and I’m quite selective in what I buy retail. I don’t buy anything from any company in the corporate profile. Not on purpose, I looked through the profile and I don’t see anything I ever buy.
Canyon bikes really screwed over a friend of mine, and it wasn't about a bike or warranty issue, but something that truly affected his/her life. Can't go into details, but Canyon can seriously F-off.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldMember
Anyhow, haven't really bought anything from BC since I found out Moosejaw has an everyday 20% discount for military and first responders, plus their awesome 50% rewards around Black Friday. Score some major deals if you plan ahead.
Pick your battles; isn’t Moosejaw owned by Walmart?Quote:
Originally Posted by 1000-oaks
Just sayin’...
ain’t shopped there neither
I got that a couple of weeks ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandbox
That’s a consistently unimpressive lineup. I presume their business model is picking up mediocre brands whose ethics are a handbrake on profitability, and applying the usual ruthless corporate playbook.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldMember
consumer standing to challenge trademark registrations:
https://www.theiplawblog.com/2019/01/articles/trademark-law/consumers-have-standing-to-challenge-trademark-registrations/
Not my blog
If we’re looking at the same link, you’re Dad didn’t work for Goldman Sachs.Quote:
Originally Posted by kootenayskier
Haha. I learned about Flylow sitting at a bar while Dan poured the drinks. The hookup code he gave me for his site was 666. I went and picked up my jacket from a box under his front porch. Dude is legit!Quote:
Originally Posted by mcski
And tbh, I was like “I don’t know man, a telemark specific clothing company? People still do that?” I’m glad it all worked out.
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Yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by SchralphMacchio
King billionaire douche -
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...1acf8f8ba8.jpg
He looks like 3/4 of the white guys you see walking around Aspen.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackstraw
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Originally Posted by Sandbox
I did and replied back to them why I'll never be buying from them again
Well guessing the marketing team is looking for things to keep them busy as they are not doing any social media work at the moment. I wonder how many people don't actually know about this so they are hoping to gain sales from the smucks who don't know yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by TahoeBC
New Colorado Sun article up this morning is not flattering. Continues to paint picture of rampant aggression against small non-competitors in the outdoor space, just to protect monolithic brand value (which again should have never been awarded as a registered trademark).
https://coloradosun.com/2019/11/05/b...otts-backlash/
And just to reiterate - my position is that whoever authorized IPLA to engage in these actions needs to be fired. A public apology should be issued. And the goatless trademark registrations should be cancelled.Quote:
“Jenny Verrochi, who started Backcountry Nitro last year in Boulder with a Kickstarter campaign, got a cease-and-desist letter this fall from IPLA, the nation’s largest trademark law firm representing Backcountry.com in recent trademark filings. She emailed back and forth with the company’s ILPA lawyers in October, noting that she had secured the trademark for her organic cold-brew coffee brand earlier this year.
The company’s settlement offer said Verrochi could continue to sell Backcountry Nitro coffee but could not advertise, market or sell online.
“Given the circumstances, I believe this is quite fair,” IPLA senior associate Ben White wrote in an email. “Although you may disagree, that is what happens when you adopt an infringing trademark. Imagine if you tried to sell goods in an online store named Amazon Nitro — do you think Amazon would allow that? This is an analogous situation.”
Someone (possibly a former pro snowboarder turned CX racer turned Enduro racer now skateboarding his face off) made some Fuck Backcountry stickers in SLC a few years ago. I believe there may still be some at Go-Ride
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That's actually a pretty interesting parallel to the backcountry issue. Backcountry is a descriptor as both a noun and pronoun. Noun: Place or thing, not unlike 'I'm heading to the backcountry in the mountains to ski as opposed to the frontside that's lift served'. As a pronoun to describe a style of equipment, clothing, or anything else used in the backcountry. I think there would be a good argument to be made by us, as consumers, that we buy backcountry bindings, skis, boots, clothing, and other goods used in that place commonly known as the backcountry. Now if we only had an IP attorney on the forum who would be willing to take the case...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jong Lafitte
ETA: When does TSG sue the National Park Service? They use the term backcountry for purposes of issuing permits, for one.
https://www.nps.gov/grca/planyourvis...try-permit.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backcountry
Human skin looks so bizarre on a lizard body.Quote:
Originally Posted by glademaster