Beware, the walk mode on that Roxa boot interferes with most crampon heel levers, which I imagine is why they switched to a different design.
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Beware, the walk mode on that Roxa boot interferes with most crampon heel levers, which I imagine is why they switched to a different design.
Ok good to know, thanks. Fit soinds ok for me if the instep isnt too high. Roll some pennies and i might have a pairQuote:
Originally Posted by Benneke10
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Oh, that could be a problem. Theyd be used for that applicationQuote:
Originally Posted by kamtron
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Grivel has a skimo crampon with the lever on the front.
I used Leopard crampons when I had 27.5 RX Tours and didn't have issuesQuote:
Originally Posted by kamtron
Can anybody reasonably sort these by downhill skiing performance?Quote:
Originally Posted by plugboots
I'm in heavily punched tlt7s that have never really fit my feet. Looking at an 10-day-ish traverse this spring so it's probably worth actually buying a boot that fits! Just a liiiiittle more lateral stiffness and fore-aft support would go a long way over the 7s. Seems like any of these boots will skin comparably. I daily drive moment wildcat 108s with them and can have fun on bmt 122s, as well. I have a 110mm forefoot, narrow heel, average instep
Well stay away from the Salomon’s. They’re narrow the whole way. I’d guess the scarpa, dynafit or zero G will be the easiest to make work.Quote:
Originally Posted by sruffian
So we need way more info to be helpful. Why didn't the TLT7 fit? Where are the punches?Quote:
Originally Posted by sruffian
How long are your feet? 110 mm forefoot is wide if they 250mm long and narrowish if they're 300 mm long.
Are your feet high volume everywhere? Low volume with big bunions? etc
Not worth thinking about skiing performance if they don't fit. But honestly, if you can't go try them on, I would recommend you call or write skimo.co. They are the best source of knowledge (in the US) that I've found for comparing light boots, especially because a number of these boots are fairly new.
thanks, auv. and of course, fit first. Yeah - no one shop locally has all of these boots, so I will be trying them on piecemeal over the next few weeks
Nothing too crazy on my feet, I just have a paddle foot forefoot. I'm in a 275 for the tlt7. on the tlt7, just standing in the shell it rubbed big time on the sixth-toe area. Because of where the seam of the clog sits, they were punched on the inside, not the outside of the clog. Sizeable punches right where my big toe joint is to add forefoot space. Not bunions, just straight up paddle feet - when my foot splays it looks like there is an extra toe's worth of width on the outside from the metatarsal forward.
I feel like you might be talking about a different Salomon boot, the MTN Summit is pretty wide in the forefoot and more narrow in the heel. Salomon actually lists the last as "99/105" (I assume because of it).Quote:
Originally Posted by Climber Joe
As someone with a pizza-slice shaped foot, they were shockingly comfortable when I test fitted a pair.
If you have wide feet I'd definitely cross the f1 lt off that list. It's narrow and tough to punch from what I understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by sruffian
Tlt x, summit, and 0g peak are all higher volume fits. I have wide feet and tried them all on and thought any of them would work with some punching.
My guess is that 0g peak and summit will ski pretty similarly based on side by side carpet flexing. Tlt x is definitely a little softer and has a more wiggly walk mode lock, but nobody seems to have the blacklight version which might be stiffer.
I ended up with the peak because it fit a little better. They do, however, run nearly a full size short.
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Have you tried a Backland carbon? I have "normal" width feet but always need a 6th toe punch to be able to spread my toes, and they work well for me. Heel hold isn't great, but they ski ok. Durable
I’ve got some dynafit TLT 8s I’d like a comfier liner tongue in. How easy is it to Jerry rig something? I’d rather attach some extra foam or something to the tongues than swap liners, but I might end up doing that eventually anyway.
Anyone done something like that?
Those stock liners are so thin and flimsy. I attached some foam to the tongues on mine with double-sided tape, but it only helped a little. There was still so much room elsewhere in the shell that I swapped in a pair of Pro Tours before taking them on snow. That made a huge difference, upgrading to GFTs last season made an even bigger difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Climber Joe
Anyone had a chance to try on both the mtn summit and the 2023 backland carbon (no boa)?
Looking for which one has a smaller ankle pocket/ better ankle hold. Currently have dynafit radical pro and lange xt3 lv and end up touring in the lange way more because they fit way better. Swimming quite a bit in the radical, and figured I may as well go lighter in my actual touring boot since the crossover is working decent for me for shorter days.
Open to other suggestions as well, but I tried on the f1lt, one of the zer g peaks, and the dalbello quantum, all had too much room in the ankle, can’t find either the backland or the summit to try on.
Backlands seem to generally be the lowest volume, but I’ve heard the ankle on the summit is actually decently snug, and I don’t mind the wide forefoot.
And yes I know these boots are both a little over 1kg but the ski ability seems more what I’m after for driving skis around 100 underfoot
I tried them both on. They are complete opposites fit wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by madriverfreeride
I bought the Backland, because they fit my feet better than any ski boot I’ve ever tried. The Summit was so wrong for my foot shape that I didn’t spend much time trying it. I have narrow feet, both in the ankle, heel and forefoot. High instep. I get snug ankle hold, and a touch of room in the heel with thin-all-over socks in the Backland. Using socks with heel padding helps me there.
I had Quantum’s before this, one size bigger, and the ankle was maybe a tiny bit looser.
ZG Peak was pretty good fit for me too.
Note, I am talking about the shells only. When trying on the boots, I used my already molded Palau liners, to get an apples to apples comparison of the shells.
Basically, I did not notice a big difference in ankle fit. Especially because all these can be snugged up with a buckle around the ankles.
The bigger fit differences were the toe box, forefoot width and instep height, although with all these open top boots, that’s less of an issue.
Good to know, does the new lower buckle design on the backland push the ankle into the pocket decently well? I found the boa on the last design didn’t cut it for me, thats why the summit was intriguing since they claim some sort of ankle band helps keep you in place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tjaardbreeuwer
Not really, the Z cable buckle on the Backland is in a pretty normal, forward, place on the middle of the instep.Quote:
Originally Posted by madriverfreeride
Scarpa Maestrale and Salomon Mtn Summit have that ‘ankle strap’ like a snowboard binding, that pushes your foot back.
Basically the current Backland just has a beefier closure, but in the same spot.
I went and tried it on (last skied this afternoon) just now, and ankle is nice a snug on my skinny ankle, but the Z cable just tightens on top of the instep, doesn’t push the foot back at all.
So if that’s what you are looking for,
It sounds like a Mtn Summit would be better worth for you ordering somewhere and trying on. If it fits pretty well, you will not have to worry about Backland any more, they are so very different.
Light boot / ski matching.
I was looking at the following uphill/ touring focused set-up
DPS Cassiar 87t (87mm, 1205g) - ATK Trofeo 8 - Scarpa alien RS
The ski is wider than Scarpa recommend. Although I think it'll be fine.
Then I found a good deal on a Backlight 95 ski. I'll probably bump up to a ATK Haute route binding too.
The backlight will be 4cm shorter, a whole 45g lighter, and only 7mm wider. But its definitely a stiffer more powerful ski. Do I need to rethink my boots choice?
Anyone tried on the various Travers boots? Is the grilamid GR model much less stiff than the carbon CS model? Can anyone compare fit to the Transalp? The Transalp is the first boot I've owned that legitimately fits right out of the box, and I'm hoping to find similar in a weight weenie boot.
I have Travers CS and was looking to get away from the BOA. Broke 2 in 4 seasons, same boot. Thus, I tried the Transalp on. My Foot is on the wide side with a high instep. Definitely not a Scarpa foot. Regarding the fit of the Transalp when it was on my foot, I felt pressure on top of the foot in the metatarsal/cuneiform area. Long story short, ended up with a pair of Tecnica Zero G Peak Carbon's. They fit out of the box with the only mod being a Surefoot carbon insole. The Travers CS are very soft boots and have become my backup boots.Quote:
Originally Posted by kamtron
Since you like the Transalp, compare both the Travers CS and Technica Zero G Peak Carbon or non carbon model, side by each. Have patience putting the Tecnica on.
Anyone have any experience with the Dalbello Quantum Evo? The Lupo fits my foot fantastically, looking for something a little lighter. Not a lot of options to try stuff on around me.
You mean the "old" 98mm Lupo? The fit of the Quantum boots is quite different, you probably should order it from someone with free return shipping . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by nyskirat
Yeah, the pre-redesign(?) for the current season.Quote:
Originally Posted by gregL
Quite different is all I need to know. Thanks!
Just sitting here waiting for a mag to retrofit F1 XT lower cables/buckles to their LTs…
Yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by dub_xion
I certainly do wish I would’ve known about those lower buckle XT’s when I bought my LT’s.
I’m realizing probably readily available next season after the inaugural year, but also probably available from a dealer special order this season if you ask nicely. I imagine not a huge weight penalty over the Boa, and still a quite a bit lighter than the XT when the retrofit is all through.
Keep in mind the XT’s have some plastic under that buckle that I imagine distributes pressure a bit more evenly. XT’s certainly seem more servicable over the long haul.
I have some F1 GTs on the way from Telemark-Pyrenees for a nice deal. I'll report back on them since there's very little info. It's basically the XT with a grilamid rather than carbon-infused cuff. So a little less stiff but maybe a little more "smooth". I hope they will fit.
Fit is great in these F1 GTs. Skied them on two big days already. I've never been able to do big days like this without any shell work, just a sock-method at-home mold of the intuitions. Maybe they are too big for me, but heel hold is surprisingly good in them and forefoot has the right amount of room. I sized up due to rumors of them running short and it feels right.
The boot is plenty stiff, feels very supportive but also very upright even at the max 13 degrees forward lean and with a spoiler. It will take me some time getting used to it. I skied them with my fat skis (184 x 108) on the volcano in good powder and with my skinnier boards (177 x 96) in corn/mush conditions. Both skied well at slower speeds. I think I will try and add a heel wedge and shim to reduce the volume a tad and maybe counteract the upright stance.
I'm guessing as the liner packs out that a beefier intuition, maybe a tour wrap, would make them ski better.
Actual weight is 1420 g with green superfeet, size 31.
FYI XT has 2 more degrees forward lean than the GT and LT models
^ Thanks Kam
I’m suddenly interested in the F1 GT as a Skorpius equivalent. I think the fit would be better for me.
I’m a little unsure of the “90 flex” I like the idea of progressive flex. I would think w/ a beefier liner, booster strap etc. could help if needed. But at that point, maybe I need to be looking at the 1300g class of boots.
With the new ZGTP stated at 1285g it’s feeling harder to justify the F1 GT/XT.
Interested in a boot for pow skis ~ 100-120mm. Some people would say get 2 boots…
Anyone gotten hands on the new sportiva kilo yet?
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Im told it won't hit North America for another month, I have a pair pre-orderedQuote:
Originally Posted by ezgzy
Don't know if this influences your choice, but with some more use my liners packed out enough that I've been getting heel blisters in these boots. Overall, the fit is ok, but I may have wanted to go smaller. I've done some work with a bootfitter to improve the heel pocket (inward punch, kind of wild) and will see how they work when we get some snow.Quote:
Originally Posted by chicken feathers
They are really comfy though. I think it's just some movement that's leading to the blisters.
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carry on lads
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If only they were 1kg!
these are!
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I wore these around a bit yesterday in the shop and they felt fkn great
I never really considered a light boot before but Hamish keeps heckling me about it
it feels like it’s going to be dreamy on the way up and in rolling terrain
I hear it skis well but I’m just not totally sure what to expect
Technica boots fit my feet well, and I thought I’d be going the other direction from my ZeroG Tour up to a Cochise for the ski area, but now I’m not so sure….
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Light boots ski better than you'd expect, especially in good snow (corn or not too deep) with manageable skis. Definitely worth it in many conditions.
I wore em around the house for a few hours today and they fit really well right out of the box
I can’t wait to ski in them