Opinions are like vaginas, everybody’s got one;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunion 2020
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Opinions are like vaginas, everybody’s got one;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunion 2020
No she’s free to spread her message as much as she wants. It pays a whole lot better than swimming does. It’s easy money these days selling indignation. She should cash in while she can. She could have just been a vocal advocate for the sport but she chose to make it a business. Of course with that comes criticism and questions about her motives.Quote:
Originally Posted by summit
https://www.athletespeakers.com/speaker/riley-gaines
Correction: she tied Lia for fifth place (in the 200 freestyle).Quote:
Originally Posted by Flounder
[Lia Thomas did win an event, though, the 500 free]
It is pretty fucked up that lia( w a dick and likes girls) is changing w the women's swim team.
Who here has young daughters and is fine w bio males changing w them?
Oh yeah, now we're really getting to the heart of the trans-panic.Quote:
Originally Posted by byates1
Yes, thanks for clarifying my badly worded post. I know Cono is all worked up about the amount of hours she trained but she still lost to 4 biological women. I’m guessing all, including Lia, have dedicated the similar amounts of time training.Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
No panic here, the 99% of girls in the girls locker room have a right to feel comfortable. The one dude who wants to change w them can use the family room.
I just spit water out my nose in Dr waiting roomQuote:
Originally Posted by Trackhead
Well played
FIFYQuote:
Originally Posted by Trackhead
That’s fucking ridiculous. The problem with sandy opinions now, is that everyone’s sticking their noses in other people business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flounder
The swimming culture is unique. We wear next to nothing all day long, around the opposite sex. So I could give a shit about locker room talk. Stealing someone’s glory, when they e worked harder than you, and I’d guarantee Riley worked a lot harder that the dude, is fucking bullshit. Give the dude his own lane, let him pick his team, but the times don’t count. Never will. It’s so ridiculous that’s not enough. You’re generally only racing yourself In Swimming.
The difference between 400th In the nation, and 5th, is a lot.
You are full of shit. Miller Lite is neither of those things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mofro261
Maybe if she had spent more time in college studying instead of swimming miles every day she would have a better way to support herself. I never swam competitively but I had a kid who did and I can't imagine a sport with a more boring, tedious training regimen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flounder
Are you getting a surgical consult for vaginoplasty? Post a TR if so.Quote:
Originally Posted by TBS
Lol. What an incredibly ignorant, and American, comment to make. Do you say that about all world class athletes?Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
You obviously have no clue to what is gained by the sheer hard work and determination it takes to do something like that. Because if you did, you’d see the benefits.
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Originally Posted by Rasputin
Yipper!Quote:
Originally Posted by Trackhead
Which came first?Quote:
Originally Posted by Flounder
Oh right. Her opinions came first after she had the negative situation. So how is it suspect?
Again... dismissing the female opinion by ad hom attack.
Is she making any significant income??? Who knows, but she has been a victim of physical violence and intimidation in sharing her opinoin, and maybe the only reason she could have any hope of getting a paid speaking engagement is so few females are willing to speak up because they get attacked so severely for speaking up.
Can’t quite put my finger on it, but something tells me Cono isn’t purely concerned with the issue of fairness and protecting female athletes…
“Believe in something, even if it means sacrificing everything”
Colin Kapernick Nike ad. He’s made plenty of $$ on his particular agenda.
Again, created after she took a stand based on a real experience. If she is gonna take a ton of shit and is rare enough in her willingness to speak, well then the market is limiting the supply and creating the demand the demand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunion 2020
‘Dude’ is just really committed to the bit, I guess…
https://youtu.be/tukcaqEpGYo?si=Jq7JUymnmPDogHsw
old goat has already stated that he was never an athlete so, no, he doesn't get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cono Este
lol. Just the dumbest of dumbfuck opinions, pure transpanic flow through bullshit propaganda, from middle aged dudes who love the grifting paranoiaQuote:
Originally Posted by byates1
People will capitalize on whatever they can. We have “influencers” all over the spectrum. And while Lia Thomas clearly is not as outspoken as Riley, she does seem to invite a similar approach to income as she is represented by a marketing firm.
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Dunfree wants to be allowed in w your daughters.Quote:
Originally Posted by dunfree
Dunfree has a right to get naked next to your 9 yr old.
The dude is committed. He’s a lady now. Interesting interview.Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong
But. Her bullshit about how there aren’t enough trans to make a difference is bullshit.
Can we restore all the doping cancelled medals?
Lance Armstrong represent!!!
You know the difference between 400th and 5th. The girls i trained with who had senior cuts at 13 worked harder than everyone in any sport. There is a good reason anyone rises to top 8 at D1. Incredibly talented, almost super human ability to recover, and hard work.Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
I was a lazy sob compared to those gals And I was alot better than 400th.
This is simple social terrorism, theft. I don’t even blame the dude. He’s just a the pawn. I can’t believe so many “athletes” around here can’t see that the people behind this don’t give a fuck about any sport.
Riley Gaines teammate: Her words, not mine. Curious on thoughts regarding this speech from posters here?
https://youtu.be/2-QTwchWiKw?si=_Kc-uFNbnEquvHv5
She sounds anti-trans in general, same as Riley.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trackhead
I think the issue is complicated, and not sure what the best way to handle it is, but don’t think people who don’t believe trans-gendered people do or should exist are going to lead to a good solution.
Note also that many of Lia’s teammates spoke out in support of her being on the team.
Byates, that shit is way out of line.
Mods, while I appreciate you reviving this trainwreck can you please move it to Pollyass where it belongs?
About all I can say is the only American woman who could beat me in my best event when I was in college was Janet Evans and I was only swimming at the D1 level because I was on a mediocre team and I had a good GPA. I was a scrub who could score a few points here and there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cono Este
I'm amazed at how fast the fastest women swimmers are, but they'd still get trounced in head-to-head competition with the best men. I just can't see how it's fair for women to compete against someone who had previously competed collegiately as a male.
Anti trans? You are the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong
This is what I’m talking about? This is what everyone’s talking about. You bring up concerns, and this is how the left silences you.
Complete and utter Nazi like silencing. No debate. Just go hit the big red button. That’s why there is no talk in this country anymore. The steering wheels been Tied down, a brick placed on the accelerator, and we’ll just see where we end up. Add to that just a few yrs ago it was all about #metoo.
These guys stand for nothing. It’s just terrorism from the left at this point.
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Yes, she sounds anti-trans, since she’s unwilling to acknowledge that Lia identifies as a trans woman.
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And the ‘scientific’ basis of her article is incorrect, as there are biological females with XY chromosomes. Where would she have them compete? Shit isn’t simple.
Take a scroll through Riley’s Twitter feed and tell me her only concern is trans-women in sport.
FOX news are the ones getting butt hurt over this.
Nobody else cares because trans are such a small percentages of the population it's a non issue.
It's sells papers and gets people outraged, that's it.
True, Fox is a tabloid outlet.Quote:
Originally Posted by mud
Screw sports. This is, by a large margin, the wildest trans issue I've ever seen
LOL what kind of a dumbass thinks Gym Jordan, Gaetz, and MTG are gonna step up for trans rights.
I don't say that about all beers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cono Este
I don't say that about all world class athletes. It was simply an observation that swimming seems to involve an inordinate amount of tedious training compared to most sports. I do have great respect for people who can train hard in any sport. There is a lot of literature expounsing the theory that success in sports and other endeavours like music performance depends a lot on people being able to practice--the best don't have to make themselves train; they have to make themselves not train. So there's no need for you to lose your shit--I'm not putting you down or saying you're stupid for having been a swimmer. That would be golfers, according to Sports Illustrated ranking of athletes from smartest to dumbest by sport.
And I do know something about hard work.
Let the trans people have whatever they want. Who cares.
Their gender dysmorphia anxiety and stress can be debilitating. The last training I had I was told that just the process of getting dressed in the morning equates to an entire day’s worth of high stress for an average person.
Let them be, the courage it must take to even enroll in a competitive sport is remarkable.
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Originally Posted by old goat
I apologize for being a Dick. I know you are a man of experience.
Apples bs oranges. Being a swimmer is like being a a race horse, or a sprinter. Your only goal is to maximize physical performance etc. I’ve trained with gold medalist, and some of them, summer sanders for example, had so much talent I consider her a failure. She should have won 10 gold medals. she was lazy, but she was a freak same as Phelps ability to recover. But I’m general, if you’re not leading the workouts, you’re not getting faster I’m the pool.
Now baseball? My son throws 93 mph and those fucks barely work out. He’s all baseball iq and obviously has an arm. I beg him not to lift. But what the fuck do I know a game that was originally intended for schools girls?
I deleted it. It’s back from the dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunion 2020
But every time someone’s offended it’s not polyass. It’s the PR. Read. Or don’t.
But can we get back to women’s chess?