Didn't make their list that was released today.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
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Didn't make their list that was released today.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
I thought the list said "Northern Virginia", no? They count Stafford and Prince William in that term frequently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirshredalot
The article I read said Fairfax County, but it would be easier and cheaper to acquire the land for a Silicon Valley style corporate campus out in the boonies, though that would come at the expense of workforce retention and recruitment, plus they already have a rapidly-expanding presence in Fairfax and LoCo.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
I just read up on it a little and the "Northern Virginia" bid was a cooperative effort between Loudon and Fairfax counties so it would be out by Dulles almost certainly.
So, about 6 miles from my house but on the other side of the river and no bridge to get there. I don't expect a real estate windfall, dammit.Quote:
Loudoun and Fairfax collaborated with developer Open-Rebees to submit proposal for The Hub property, an 85-acre undeveloped site straddling the county borders near Dulles Airport. The property, which has been rezoned by the Loudoun Board of Supervisors for development of 3.5 million square feet of office space and 1,300 residential units. That project is adjacent to the Center for Innovative Technology, which was developed three decades ago during Gov. Chuck Robb’s administration and which the government has identified for sale. A Silver Line rail station is under construction at that location.
If the 2nd headquarters is for AWS and not just another office complex so there is only Seattle (cheaper just different geography - possibly east coast or south somewhere) then power options can influence the decision greatly. Sure there is renewable- solar, but you have to have sun and enough days that are not dark and cloudy overcast.... Pittsburgh would not be a good renewable solar power option. It also would probably need some major bridge infrastructure improvements fast also. So it is hard to say what the no we will be crossing that location off the list criteria - no that is TOO HIGH or LOW are at this point- traffic, infrastructure, cost of living, airport access, land needs and of course the unknown tax incentives being dangled, etc.
Ferry service over - side business opportunity... :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
Leaked blueprint of Amazon HQ2
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DT1On6RVoAAsV2t.jpg
https://twitter.com/haymarketbooks/s...05163357982720
There used to be a ferry across to Virginia right down the road from me for over a hundred years. Unfortunately it stopped about a hundred years ago too. Could be time for a comeback!Quote:
Originally Posted by RShea
That's no Amazon Moon!Quote:
Originally Posted by Svengali
they bought the plans discounted from Starbucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
I felt as if a million lattes cried out and were suddenly silenced.Quote:
Originally Posted by dunfree
Bravo.Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
I think that Amazon has known all along the 2 or 3 cities they are aiming for. The rest of this is just to see which city will offer the best tax incentives. If anyone read the original RFP it should have been obvious that only a select few metro areas in the US really fit what amazon is looking for.
I think this is all aimed around getting the best tax incentives. Amazon probably already knows where they are moving. I also think this is something of a public relations stunt.
I wonder what all of this data must be worth to Amazon. Probably tens of millions. Basically every city in the US sent in tons of valuable economic and demographic data, nicely compiled and packaged by the local chamber of commerce. That alone must be worth millions.
Toronto over Calgary....? I need to talk to their management.
Also part of the shopping is just like Amazon themselves with their product pricing starting off low and increasing each time you revisit an item, never know when land prices will increase if the speculators know it is down to 2 or 3 locations and cities- only so many large tracks of land in most of these places if they are looking for a campus and not buildings scattered over the region....Quote:
Originally Posted by WTF is dat
I still side with this initial analysis by the NY Times...
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...arters-be.html
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So Denver it is. The city’s lifestyle and affordability, coupled with the supply of tech talent from nearby universities, has already helped build a thriving start-up scene in Denver and Boulder, 40 minutes away. Big tech companies, including Google, Twitter, Oracle and I.B.M., have offices in the two cities. Denver has been attracting college graduates at an even faster rate than the largest cities. The region has the benefits of places like San Francisco and Seattle — outdoor recreation, microbreweries, diversity and a culture of inclusion (specifically cited by Amazon) — but the cost of living is still low enough to make it affordable, and lots of big-city refugees have been moving there for this reason. Amazon would be smart to follow them.
Unless they are also really looking at an Eastern US presence and not a second western US office...Quote:
Originally Posted by spanky
Denver is not, by any reasonable definition, in the west. It is a mid western, prairie city, and no amount of marketing will ever change that. The west starts at the Continental Divide. Thanks for playing.
Pretty sure it starts at Mountain Standard Time. Central, if you're talking about the Southwest.
What is the purpose of this second campus? No room to expand around the Puget Sound?
West of the Mississippi last time I was in Colorado- did it move recently? Time Zone wise it is not Pacific but then it is closer to Pacific than it is to Eastern Time Zone.... Skiing out West- do you only think of California, Oregon, Washington and far left coast or is the Rockies "Western" Skiing??? Rarely hear people say I am going on a ski trip out "Mid-west to ski outside of Denver Colorado and only talking about resorts west of the Continental Divide....Quote:
Originally Posted by glademaster
The West starts just outside of Worcester so yeah Denver is safely in the West.
My friends from my former industry determined that we would hold meetings alternating between east and west each year. Atlanta for the east, Dallas for the west. I just laughed at them.
So Colorado is fucked. Amazon wants to build on the Colorado radness. Not only do we squash Olympic dreams we may try to kill corporate dreams too.
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Ha! Woostah.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
The NH gov has been amazon this amazon that everytime he opens his mouth. He was dead set against a rail system and then all of a sudden we need 4mil to do a commuter rail feasibility study. How's that tasting now gov? Gonna flip positions again?
Isn’t that a steak sauce ?Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
Iceman skis Out-West-Jiminy-Peak in jeans (and a plaster cast)?
Any new guesses on this?
Bezos' ownership of the Washington Post, huge new home in DC and extensive new facilities just up the road in Baltimore (with tons of room to expand) all make it feel like DC Metro somewhere, so that's out.
would that cause a buy or a sell for you?
i was hoping for detroit.
I think CO might implode if the choose Denver, so I hope Denver.
But I'm guessing Raleigh. Detroit would be cool. DC might be a good move since they'll be spending a lot of time in federal court.
house is already for sale but hopefully if AMZN comes it'll spur some action and maybe even pricesQuote:
Originally Posted by shroom
NDA prevents me from telling.
Living in this area, I’d be surprised by Raleigh.Quote:
Originally Posted by shredgnar
But I’m constantly wrong.
My guess is DC.
C'mon, give us a hint, does it ryhme with bender?Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
Drumbeat gets a little louder for NoVa/DC area. Seems like it might be a decent time to pick up a few shares of JBG Smith.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/18/b...finalists.html
Queens and Crystal City. Dirt pimp telephones already ringing off the hook.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/13/tech/...ton/index.html
Be interesting to see if it has any effect on real estate this far away from Crystal City (~25 mi.). My guess is maybe a bit of a ripple effect but who knows.
Did anyone see this NOT going to the NYC and/or DC area?
I feel like they were just playing games with people when the obvious move would be to have something in the NE to cover both coasts. I suppose there was a chance it could have been Phili, Boston, or Atlanta, but come on...
The only thing kinda surprising is that they picked both.
I thought you lived in the Boston area! Are you Tip's neighbor?Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
Seems to me the nationwide search was just a way to shake down NYC and NVA for some better tax breaks. Welcome to torn up streets, insane construction costs and new levels of shitty traffic.Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn