On the basis of what? They both have steering wheels, shift knobs, and windshields? You know, a Yugo is nearly identical to a Lamborghini Countach in that regard as well.
Printable View
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php...tureid=1601153
This one is actually a V12S, and quite a bit different.
Yep Crossfire...
The point of that picture shows a manual gear box, and three pedals. They even do a manual V12 now. But that's Turbo S money. (Which I would take over a turbo S all day)
http://astonmartin.blob.core.windows...25_resized.jpg
The V8 F Type, which is a shit box (I've driven a few, sold 2), only comes with a ZF single clutch auto. It's the same gearbox found in all BMWs. (non M)
So that leaves the V6 F Type with 380hp and a manual. Well at that point...
https://cdn.mrgoodlife.net/wp-conten...r-718-S-03.jpg
Both can be had at yuge discounts. 10k off the F Type. I've seen a V12S Demo get a 100k discount. Aston is about to change everything, and now is the time to buy a true purist sports car at a good price. Why anyone would buy a 991 C2S over a Vantage GT is beyond me. Furthermore, why anyone would buy a F Type over a 991 C2S is beyond me.
Here is a Vantage GT for 30k off, which makes it cheaper than a V8 F Type. Lot of car, with a lot of eyeball, for 90k. I bet I could cut another 5k out.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...7451/overview/
89k? Holy fuck balls!
But yeah, I don't drive stick. Make all the jokes you want.
If I'm going to buy a very expensive car..let's call that for me >60k.. I want the total package
In terms of new ness for price, reliability, comfort, maintenance, and performance.. F type checks all my boxes. The equivalent f type v8 is cheaper by 20k than that am, sounds better, better torque and bhp. Handling, dunno.
Don't forget, everyone has their own expectations and opinions! I respect yours. The new f type R awd..well yes please!
If I was single again, I would pick up an extra shift a month and lease one probably. No harm done there.
Similar porsche boxster s checks all my boxes
F Type R AWD, is a beast. Shouty as fuck, and no way to shut it up.
They can get to be 140k with Ceramics.
140k...
25k more gets you a brand new V12S, 60k off MSRP... 140k and I am looking for a manual F430 Ferrari.
enough lip flapping, need sound + video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGSRtEi2-kk
Totally Boxster over Cayman in every flavor. S, GTS, or Spyder/GT4.
These cars are about handling, and while quick, are not holy shit fast like a Turbo S or 918. I think having the top down, is a yudge part of these cars.
http://www.asphalte.ch/news/wp-conte...der-981-03.jpg
Totally wished I just bought any single convertible this spring. May though June in Maine has been godly wonderful weather
Buy a Toyota mrs. Looks kind of cool, mid engine, drop top, Toyota reliability. Should be pretty cheap I would imagine.
I had one for like 10 years. It was great. I'll have to find a pic... It was fun as hell. 92 mr2 turbo.
I would rather have the cayman even though the boxster has grown on me over the years. if handed the money for either new, I would still rather get a sweet older off year 911 or 968 convertible.
I saw so many nice cars on the road today, but has anyone ever noticed that Lamborgini's come in the ugliest colors ever imagined? Isn't it showy enough that you're driving a car that's 250k+, why does it have to be the same color as a fucking Powerade?
Heh, yes. There's a toolbox that lives a neighborhood over with a smurf blue Gallardo Spyder. He fits the stereotype to a T - right down to wearing his Lambo hat and shirt every time he drives it. Tailgates like a motherfucker too on 25-35mph roads.
I know I'm in the minority here and will take some shit for saying this but I'd take a Boxster S over that Gaillardo Spyder all day long.
Here it is... super fun car, older than the 10 year threshold of the thread, but since it was mentioned....
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And one of Toyota's great motors. The long-shuttered Sport Compact Car magazine had a project MR2 for a number of years. In one installment, the project head described what felt like tires lifting off the road on roll-on acceleration. Wish they were a bit bigger. And still made.
A project MR-S also made it's way into the publication.
Edit - Looks like a guy graciously scanned and uploaded articles on the project MR2 to another forum.
Nice example of a 996.1 Aero on BaT. Factory LSD, thorough suspension upgrade, impressive car. Already near $22k with 6 days left... Owner is hoping for 30-33k. More than a newer, powerkit C4S that sold on BaT last month..
http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-porsche-911-c2/
http://13252-presscdn-0-94.pagely.ne...6_192325-7.jpg
130hp vs 580hp, pretty cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F91MSFNM8HM&ab_channel=MatthewJackson
Hey BD - you seeing any decline in the 964 market in the near future? I've been trying to talk myself into a 997, but no luck so far.
This is pretty nice:
http://www.pcarforsale.com/wp-conten...he-997-c4s.jpg
But it's no match for this:
https://www.classicdriver.com/sites/...orst_330_2.jpg
Those cup one wheels are fuckin sweet!
Bumping with a request to Beer Drinker to shed light on 964 market dynamic.
don't forget the dark horse option:
- buy a 996 or 997 roller with low miles, heavily optioned
- dole out $35k for a new GT3-Mezger 3.8L engine (400hp / ~300tq)
- total cost = $42k or so
Should be about ~4.0 second 0-60 and 200mph top speed. Very reliable, durable enough to track consistently.
Wait. You're saying a late model, low mileage example less engine costs $7,000?
^^^ Right :confused: And for this jong the wide body 964 would work $$$$$, but barring that, I would go 997 all day long. I love that car.
I would not buy a used porsche without talking to an old school Porsche mechanic. There are some very bad yrs, and some good yrs. My 993 leaked when it rained. Spent thousands trying to find the source then punted. Early. 996 had bad engine seals too, not aligned and required top end rebuilds. My guy Gunther told me kate 80's were bullet proof.
Engine alignment on a 996 can be brutal. Some engines with poor internal alignment are 'refreshed' with new bearings, etc. and resold by less than reputable shops for $7-$13k, only to blow up a few thousand miles later.
GT3/Mezger engines are another breed though (the whole purpose of my other post). They are 8,500 rpm beasts with light internals, track ready & not prone to failure. Nothing close to the fragility in the 3.6/3.4 996 motors. Same goes for 996TT motors, GT3s, GT2s.
Any water cooled porsche flat 6 that isn't a turbo or GT-spec between I think 97 and 08 experiences similar failure modes. The air cooled engines have their own set of issues, not something I'm up to speed on.
Now I'm trying to talk myself into a used WRX or STI hatchback... can't imagine I won't kick myself if I do, but considering nonetheless... I've never driven an STI, so I'm on the lookout for one to test... Anyone care to comment on owning one? I know they're fun cars... my question is more about whether they felt special. From a distance, they just look like matchbox cars. But they're undeniably fast, AWD, and cheaper to buy and maintain than a p-car.