I'm so glad I'm not the only one who wants nothing more with my life than skiing.
Now how to make that happen...
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I'm so glad I'm not the only one who wants nothing more with my life than skiing.
Now how to make that happen...
What a shallow existence. No hiking or fishing or mountaineering or partying? Sheesh.Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
Well, yeah. Bike, hike, float, drink, occasionally fuck a bitch.
Call me shallow.
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:eek: Is that you or the little black pup in your avatar that does this "bi*** ****ing"?Quote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
For the non-nurses, I've always wondered about jobs you can do remotely "from anywhere" which seems to be a pipe dream but perhaps becoming slightly more common these days. Business, finance, consulting, technology type of gigs. I'd guess most of them require significant time in the real world until you're experienced and important enough to be able to pull in employment and decent money without the face time.
I know of several consultants who have gone this route. When I was in hospitality they were always bringing in consultants on 3 month contracts through the busy season as group services managers and the like during the busy seasons. Bank a quick 30k then off to the beach/snow/etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by powski3
To bad they were all 50 year old has beens, but thats the route right there.
A few peers (project managers) on the same team as me do that. Work remotely and travel sometimes (<25%). They're on point and have solid experience though, I'm a noob at the current position. But yeah, develop rapport with the company and client base then you have flexibility. This is airline SaaS so 95% of client interaction is virtual anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by powski3
They are not part time though. Maybe you could work out a part time position with half pay, reduced benefits. But you'd have to be buds with sr. mgmt to pull that off.
in 1995, i was working at a healthcare IT company in boston, fresh outta college. i could tell right away that living my entire life in beantown chasing the dream of post grad degrees, $$$$$$ salary and 'early retirement' was for the birds. I wanted to LIVE WHILE I'M YOUNG!Quote:
Originally Posted by powski3
i got a part time job at REI and within a couple yrs, some REI coworkers moved to Utah. next thing ya know, they're like 'You gotta check this place out!'. I went out for a visit in 98 and was blown away. after shredding untracked pow for a weekend, all i could tell them was "i'm moving here".
Immediately upon returning home to boston after this epic utah vacation, i began scheming about moving. how could i get a "work-anywhere" gig and move out there? i ended up finding the perfect company and called the president and told him i wanted to work for him. i asked him what i needed to do and he gave me a list of skills to build. i went to work, literally, became a programmer at the existing firm, busted ass to learn as much as possible.
Long story kinda long, I called him back in a year and got the work at home gig in '99 and haven't looked back. It took me a solid year to believe i could hold the job and shake the daily fears that i'd be fired anytime now - small company, lots of work to do and i felt ineffective. After my 1 year anniversary, i said fuckit and moved to SLC. BEST MOVE EVAR! while my job duties, roles and responsibilities have changed drastically over the years, my commitment to the gig and to skiing hasn't. this year, we bought a place in the heart of the wasatch and gonna give it a go at 8700'. the wife does indeed drive down the canyon to the research park area 3x/week and she's growing weary of it, but it's not a show stopper yet. gonna need to find her a work at home job next!
cliff notes: Dream up an idea, do research, make a plan, execute and reap rewards.
here's one of my favorite quotes, via Branch Rickey:
"Luck is the residue of design"
rockon peeps!
luck or fortune is a fickle bitch - she will just as soon shit you out as shine you up!!!!!!
opportunity arises from the path, and, if you are wise enough to recognize its worth, you seize it!!!!
This is the route I have pursued. My job title says "Economist," but in other organizations it might say "Consultant" or "Statistical Analyst" or "Quantitative Financial Analyst." Basically, I crunch numbers by dialing into a server that isn't even hosted on site where I work now anyways. This is supposed to be my last season working "back East" before I return to ski country for keeps.Quote:
Originally Posted by powski3
This is season 4 since I left the full-time skid life in Montana, and I think this is about as quick a turn-around as you can hope for to return to ski country and live the dream. The upside, though, is that the trend in this line of work seems to be more and more focused on going "virtual office" style. I know that over at Deloitte, for example, they have eliminated permanent offices for anyone below the Partner level, at least at the local office.
exclamation points make everything awesome!!!!!!!!!!!
(no really, try it)
agreed, working remotely is a great gig if you can make it work. Not something that is feasible for many until you have been in the trenches for a bit, but once you have some good experience, and work in a field where you don't need to be there, it can be on the table if you ask and do some strong negotiating.
If all I did was ski I'd get bored. Variety's pretty cool
oh i dont know about that. i mean sure, moderation is great and all.. unless its skiing. skiing should be done to excess.
to each his own...thank the gods that be for all the dear folk that buy into trench life, tv, and consumption. someone needs to drive the ski bus and run the lifts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I graduated in 2009 and went on to work through the recession for a small company in the office for about a year before moving to Aspen in late 2010. I've worked for that same company as an independent consultant since then, going on three years now. In the meantime, Ive also picked up other gigs with other companies in the area and average 40-80 hours/week fairly steadily over the last 6 months.
In the Summer I try to bike every day for an hour or two and in the winter I try to ski 3-5 days/week, although a lot of those days are one and done or a couple and done. I've been working harder from home than I ever have in an office (I worked in many offices prior to going back to school in 2005). But I prfer working from home not because I want to slack off and ski all day every day, but because I have a little more flexibility to take a breather when I need it and I can work in my underwear most days. It also allows me to build my own brand independently while staying somewhat tethered to a 'regular' employer.
My point is, you work from home when it makes sense professionally, for your long term goals. If you try to make working from home about you going skiing everyday its not going to work out. Its almost harder in my opinion to work from home rather than nin an office. No one is going to baby sit you and look over your shoulder. In many cases you'll be an independent consultant, in which case you'll want to manage your own expenses and keep your own books. Youll have to track your own invoices and inevitably at some point youll probably work for free in order to get a project or build equity with your clients. You'll have a hard time walking away from work on a Friday evening, and work never really stops. You're responsible, number one. If you fuck up, you just wont get any more work, plain and simple.
The notion of working from home seems to evoke some fantasy scenario for some people when in fact it often is not pretty. You gotta love what you do it and wake up in the morning wanting to do it.
Another warning for those that think RN is a guaranteed meal ticket:
http://money.cnn.com/2013/01/14/news...html?iid=HP_LN
43% unemployment for new grads after 18 months!
I'm glad this was bumped, meant to put in my $0.02 before...
I think there's an overwhelming sense of faith in the Invisible Hand amongst the discussors in this thread. I can't count myself as one of those...
I've always seen things in terms of good/bad, positive/negative, constructive/destructive and have always been compelled to be on the left side of those /s.
What this means is that I need to spin a skiing lifestyle to myself in a way that rationalizes it as a way of contributing positive change to the world. After spending years bumming and in and out of the industry, I found it challenging to do this fully. I chose guiding because it was a way for me to professionally put people in touch with The Mountain and, if I did my job well, plant the seed of love in people. I miss that job, and loved that lifestyle. I don't think I could be a ski-town ski bum, though...just making dough to shred, living for myself...it wouldn't compute with my wiring.
I made a big change for my kids, but I still have that overwhelming need to contribute and be a part of positive change in society. As mentioned, I don't believed in the invisible hand, so my conscience won't let me go for greed. I've finally found a career trajectory where I am working for a cause and providing for my family.
Physically I know I need to breathe the spirit of the wild, and am much like John Muir in that wilderness is my church. I don't do anybody any good if I can't go to church...but I don't need to go shred to do that, necessarily. Weekly trail runs, taking care of my temple (body), getting some backcountry days in through winter, some peaks and water adventures in summer, let me stay connected to the world beyond the concrete and steel enough to come back and fight with high spirits.
But, I actually like people, too. Enough so that I don't like seeing suffering, and we have a lot of work to do and lots of problems to solve to get us all to a balanced civilization. Being a part of that is MUCH more important than how many days I skied last year.
Skiing is poetry in motion, and the expression is beautiful...but it's a selfish exploration if you can't use that to inspire you in your contributions. Use it as fuel, don't treat it like the fire.
barf....Quote:
Originally Posted by climbhoser
I expected that. Is what it is. I think the rad-shred-heads at TGR that post crap like:
"i gave it a shot. i really did. i left JH after a 3 year run, got an office job, worked my ass off, got a promotion, made some money, had a girlfriend who was playing the same stupid game. i did all the things you're supposed to do in real life."
...sound like infantile retards.
Skiing is a diversion...sorry...and tourist towns are superficial trash. People on the Western Slope can light their drinking water on fire, but you're cool because you got 80 days in.
That, my friend, is barf.
You sir, are what give mountain towns a bad name in the eyes of the general public.
Outdoors = church = most people dont give a shit about your enlightenment, regardless of your motives.
Anywho, focus on the delivery for a bit, not the message.
I, sir, would not live in an artificial, tourist based economic retard enclave if you tripled my salary.
You also seem personally defensive about my outdoors=church conclusion, which had nearly 0 to do with the overarching point of my post.
Just to hammer it in (dense wood often requires more effort to pound a nail): the only reason I DO ski is for personal benefit, but my life is much more meaningful when it's not entirely about myself.
Ah yes. The old live to work or work to live discussion.
Three observations.
Everyone has their passions. These can evolve and change over a lifetime. Sometimes it happens by choice and others just evolve. If these involve outdoor recreation, like most folks around here, all the better in my book. Where you live might just be related to the environment rather than activities. I know a lot of people who love the mountains but have no interest in skiing.
Second, inertia is a powerful force but so is equalibrium. To me the trick is balancing all of this out. It's good to try new things look over the next mountain but if you don't like what you find there is nothing wrong with moving on.
Finally, find what is fulfilling and follow your heart. Anyone who can figure that out is fine by me.
what we have here is failure to communicate...............your hate will never make you great!!!! if you are unable to promote your lifestyle preferences without dissing the choices of others then perhaps you need to get back into your own head and re-examine your own values etc etc etc etc. also when you find yourself making gross generalizations about thousands of people, whom you know nothing about, it should set off the intolerance alarms in your own loving head!!!!
Well, I just started a job in an office on Monday. It is soul crushing in every way, and it doesn't even pay well.
good thing you're more sane than those other shootersQuote:
Originally Posted by stuckathuntermtn
Either you make minimum wage or you lie .Quote:
Originally Posted by climbhoser
How much mayo do you put in your tuna fish salad ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Slaag Master
I'm not sure I fully understand what you are saying, but I just want to take a stab here....Quote:
Originally Posted by climbhoser
So even if you have a great salary/fulfilling work/own a house/all that in a mountain town (ex. Crested Butte, Steamboat, Telluride) you would still rather stay planted in Parker, CO?
If you do agree with the above statement allow me to apologize in advance, as my head will certainly explode upon reading your response, and regretfully I will not be able to reply.
you can tuna piano but you can't tuna fish!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you referring to Bill "The Mountain" Brasky?Quote:
Originally Posted by climbhoser
That guy can plant some seeds
Yes, but can you piano fish a tuna ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Slaag Master
i don't wanna bona tuna!!!!!!!!!
Would completely depend upon the town, work, etc..., but that's not the point anyway. The point is that I can't be compelled to go into it thinking where is the world going to offer me the most value, but instead where am I going to BE of the most value to the world. "The world" as referred to in that sentence has many variables of varying degrees, the top of which are my children. I won't trot off to rural Africa for the Peace Corps because I think I can have a deeper impact being a good dad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Z
My point about my church is that I'm useless to the world if I'm miserable, so indeed that has to be considered. That said, I've yet to go somewhere that I don't have access to the trails/woods/mountains/water or whatever, and can't think of anywhere in the world where that would be prohibitively far away. It's a minor consideration if one at all. Cuyahoga Valley NP is orgasmically fantastic, especially in fall. Forgive me for finding just as much to appreciate about elaborate, MidWestern ecosystems as those in the high peaks...no, day-hikes around in the sugar maples aren't as sexy or glamorous as ripping Chugach Spines, but my ego has very little to do (I won't say none) with my appreciation of a moment.
But, if you get right down to my personal preferences, which I work hard not to lead with, then yeah, I prefer Parker to CB, T-Ride or Steamboat. Had a good offer earlier this year in the 'Boat and I turned it down. Enjoy your head explosion!
Your first 'office'job is supposed to be soul crushing, then youresupposed to find inspiration and fucking ontribute something to the world. If you cant do that, i suugest living in a mountain town and making yourself happy and being nice to others.
Problem is living in a mtn town, surf town, etc and checking out tends to become a self-centered existence. These people sometimes becomes the assholes with nothing better to live for than beati g you up the cat tra k to the top of the bowl, whatever, a pretty shallow existence imo.
If thats what someone wants to do with their life,thats fine, but theres something really special about struggling, creating something meaningful.
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nobody gives a shit cumstain
Ha, no shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Conway
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No job is supposed to be soul crushing...
You gotta find balance in everything. You get the right mix of family, work, cash and the great outdoors and all is good. :)
I just moved to Montana.
I have seen the real world. Avoid it at all costs.
true that! you dont to be pretty or talented to be pretty and talented in Montana!
Bump to see if anyone who moved to a ski town during this thread is still around and still in a ski town.