Well of course I got a ramp, just a pain in the ass for unloading without reverse, and more curious about it than anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by dfinn
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Well of course I got a ramp, just a pain in the ass for unloading without reverse, and more curious about it than anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by dfinn
I can't believe nobody else uses these. I have a boot sole length of 318mm, and the villager XXL is a perfect fit. If you have really big ski boots, you might be out of luck. These overshoes are perfect for so many reasons. The rubber soles provide unreal traction, so your not slipping and sliding on your running boards. They also protect your ski boots from the devastation caused by running boards. They keep your boots warmer and drier. Extremely easy to put on and off. THe overshoes weigh one pound, and fold flat allowing you to store them anywhere. For the last 4 years, these overshoes have been one of the most important pieces of snowmobiling equipment I have. If you are frustrated with sled skiing because of your hard shell ski boots, you need to buy these. You can thank me later.
http://www.overshoe.com/recreational...tail.php?s=VIS
oh yah, $40 bucks
http://www.altrec.com/images/shop/de.../8.44011_e.jpg
I just got some used scarpa matrix boots from craigslist. They have a vibram sole that covers the arch (not just toe/heel). SHould work pretty well. The overshoe looks like a good idea too. My boot soles are typically 330-340mm though. Wonder if they'd work.
Not to beat a dead horse or anything but I'm having second thoughts on the sled I'm looking at.
04 Summit 800 "X". 3500 miles. New motor. (Very) well maintained. Ridden by a middle aged lady (buddies wife). $4k.
On a side note, I'd be buying from one of the guys I'd be learning from and he's agreed to work on/fix whatever I DO break. (These guys build custom sleds so yes, they have the mechanical aptitude to fix anything that might go wrong...all I pay for is parts)
If it's overpriced what do you all think its worth? Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?...Bueller...???
Yes, I'm sticking Doo because I can't afford to get any of the newer Cat or Polaris stuff (2005 is as new as I can afford) and I feel confident that if I'm looking 03-05 Doo stuff was much better (Rev) than the competition. Maybe I've been falsely convinced by some sled heads of this theory though...
Thanks to those that have already commented/helped (BCSS, Kidwoo etc)
A little on the high side, but with an offer to fix things that break it's worth it.
Just bought an '05 M7 153" with 1700 miles for $3200. I wouldn't pay more than probably 3k for that sled.
Nice Provo! Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by PROVO
do you find the 10" model fits over the top of your ski boots or doesn't it matter cause your ski boots are under your pants?
I am getting me some of those, seems like a perfect solution.
[QUOTE=JeffreyJim;2627224]Not to beat a dead horse or anything but I'm having second thoughts on the sled I'm looking at.
04 Summit 800 "X". 3500 miles. New motor. (Very) well maintained. Ridden by a middle aged lady (buddies wife). $4k.
If it is o miles on the new motor, i think its a good deal. If its a crate motor or stock rings, do a top end rebuild sooner than later and put better rings in there. I think brp recomends a top end rebuild after 1800 miles??. and if your buddies gonna help do any repairs.... the 800 HO motors have there issues but I love riding the rev. riding my buddies cats and polaris are like riding an old boot. If the other brands came out with a rider forward platform i'd seriously consider them. brp are a bunch of fuck heads.
I'll be honest, I really don't mind sledding in my ski boots (plug boots with vibram soles screwed on). Granted I'm certainly not the world's greatest sledder but I'm capable. I also don't really play around much, use it mainly for access, but as anyone out here can attest, access out here ain't fire roads...
I just mount old binders to the running boards of the sled, my din is set at 8 so I just pull out one leg as I'm riding if needed.
Oops. I always forget that not all sleds have reverse.Quote:
Originally Posted by robnow
That put a smile on my face. I bet that works great when your laying down pow carves, you can pull up on the opposite side to really lay er over.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbuilds
Hilarious. :D
Ive been shooting it out the back with reverse for a while now, as do most of the people I ride with. I doubt 4ft to ground off the truck is any worse than some of the airs to flat that they endure. That's what the shocks are for right?Quote:
Originally Posted by robnow
10" model fits perfect. Basically, you slide your boot and leg gaiter (from your pants) into the overshoes, secure the buckle and velcro, then pull the pant cuffs down. Creates a really good barrier against snow. Because these things were not really designed for ski boots, sometimes its a bit hard to secure the velcro. All you need to do though is snap that buckle and those things are on there.Quote:
Originally Posted by lph
thanks man. that sounds perfect. just ordered a pair.Quote:
Originally Posted by PROVO
I've done this for years, the only thing is that it's better to shoot it straight back so it lands flat than go slow where the skis tilt up. If the front end drops and the skis are tilted all the way up and it lands on the ends you can potentially tweak the skis or one side of the front end if it doesn't land straight. I haven't seen it happen recently with new sleds but with the steel skis/heavy chassis it has happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoNads
anyone know if its okay to put a spare can and drybag right on the top of the tunnel of a Rev?
Of course, otherwise the rev wouldn't come out with their own BRP gas can and tunnel bags on the X package.
thanks for the response. Ive been checking out the skidoo cans and bags and they have little riser blocks to keep them off the tunnel directly. Just wondering if that is necessary.
Yeah what's the worse thing that can happen having a big heater underneath a gas can?Quote:
Originally Posted by forest
I'm kidding.
You'll be fine. People do it all the time.
PROVO:woot! thanks for posting that! Sledding in ski boots fucking sucks. Those look they could seriously relieve some (traction) headaches.
bingo... thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by kidwoo
Most I've seen have the special cans etc, I just want to use what I've got for now and was unsure.
Did you just pick up a rev?Quote:
Originally Posted by forest
tunnel could keep your ski boots warm to make entry at the top a little less painful, but for most runs it would take too much time to change out each lap to make it worthwhile imo...so alpine boots it is for me.
I was riding a summit last winter and in one day did a good job denting in housing cover on the front left side by the running board, think it was for the brake system. be careful of that b/c flimsy aluminium is no match for ski boots when you are getting rowdy on the sled.
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Originally Posted by JeffreyJim
Would you rather carry a big rock on your back, or pull it behind you in a wheelbarrow? Get a trailer and save your truck, unless its a beater. Trailers are almost as fun as sleds!
Have to disagree pretty strongly with this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by shralpingthegnar
Short answer - if I owned a truck, I'd have a sled deck. Backcountryislife on TGR/sledmods.com sells some _really_ nice ones.
Pictures - not of the ones BCIL sells, but general idea:
http://sledmods.com/forum/index.php?topic=3.0
Longer answer - I use a fullsize Ford 1-ton van & 2-place tilt trailer to move sleds around. The van is also the racecar/bike/ski hauler - it is an awesome support vehicle for everything BUT snowmobiling (and it is not BAD for sledding, except early/late season).
When there's snow all the way to pavement, the van is fine.
Recently, the snow has been thin to the parking lots, and driving a 2wd van up FS roads with a trailer to places with little room to turn around is tricky, at best.
Building a sub-floor, whether it is wheel-well height or on top of the bed (or buying an actual deck) is a good idea, IMHO. Room to store stuff, you can still drive the truck to remote parking lots, added weight helps with traction, shrug, you're on the right track.
The trailer is annoying enough that I've been kinda looking for a 4wd diesel crew-cab pickup, but, ehhhh, it'll cost me money, and I can live with the van/trailer for the time being, but if I were to do it all over again, that's what I'd have done. Sleds don't weigh THAT much, trailers are a pain in the ass to store unless you have lots of land/live in Commerce City, extra registration, two more bearings/tires to fail, trailer lights seem to perpetually suck, ehhhhhhhhh.....
A trailer is not BAD. If it is what you have, great, but if you're starting out, a deck really is pretty cool. I had the van long before I started sledding.
.02c!
Iain
http://bulldogdecks.com/ make a good sled deck too, with tons of room to spare. Towing is a giant hassle, especially when you're on road trips. They don't even allow trailers up some mountain passes... and most of the places I sled you'd have a very hard time getting a trailer there.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Cq63ZV-34G...024x768%5D.JPG
Those look well made, but holy crap, they're $1400 more than I charge for a deck AFTER I drive 35 hrs to go pick them up!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by GoNads
btw, the rock on your back vs wheelbarrow comparison is fucking RETARDED.
IT'S a TRUCK. They're meant to put stuff in. It will handle better with weight in the back (depends on truck of course), it gets better traction, it minimizes the possibility of an accident as you now have weight on the wheels & have no trailer to smash into you if you go sideways.
Sorry for the bitterness, but I tow out morons with trailers all the time because I have an extra 1000 lbs on the rear wheels so I can. I also ride a much longer season than folks with trailers can because I can drive to the snow.
and Iain, that's exactly the one I have for sale right now, the full lotus deck. I usually sell the motomikey's decks but took that one in on trade from JP's buddy.
Well, up until recently, factor in the exchange rate CND vs. USD. I know they sell to dealers for a lower rate too, obviously. Thats the msrp rate. The dealer/bulk rate is substantially lower, so the dealer can pull a profit margin as well, as is the case with most products I'm sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by backcountryislife
Picked up my new toy the night before TG. Been learning how to ride for the past few days. Waste deep unsettled pow as far as a sled jong can see = getting stuck 37 times and spending more time digging, dragging, pushing, pulling and starting the sled than actually riding. I equate my first days attempting to sled deep snow with what I think wrestling a 450lbs. gorilla would be like. I'm worked!
My new toy
http://poachninja.com/files/images/PB280049.jpg
This is what ridding waist deep is supposed to look like. (not me)
http://poachninja.com/files/images/PB280046.preview.JPG
This is me digging myself out of one of the many alder patches that seem to have some kind of tractor beam.
http://poachninja.com/files/images/PB280051_0.jpg
Fucking brilliant, how come I never thought of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by PROVO
I would rather carry a sled in the back of my truck over towing any day. And if you can't pull a sled out the back of your truck without reverse then you're a pussy. Seriously. I used to pull a 700 lb. Polaris Widetrak out the back of my truck with no problem at all. Push from the front and then yank it out from the back when it gets close to going off.
Trailers are a pain in the ass. Lower gas mileage, more strain on your engine, not very good on snowpacked roads, a bitch to turn around or manuever through tight spots, etc. Can't think of more than one con of hauling a sled in the back of your truck besides the wear and tear on the bed liner and tailgate.
We have two sleds on most days out now, so I'm trailering a lot, but whenever I'm riding solo I always pull one sled off the trailer and put it in the bed.
Ha, all the trailer hate, blah. I just got a smokin deal on a '06 20ft enclosed insulated 3place V nose on off sled trailer that I'm gonna put some fold down beds and a table in with a counter and heater to convert to a toyhauler. Then for dawn patrol I can get up a few hours later then you and already be at the trailhead ready to rally (cooking bacon). Also roadtrips on veg oil to BC and the yukon may be in order if things go high pressure for too long here. I kept my superlightweight aluminum 2place for the easy shit though, and when you get good with that thing you can go almost anywhere a sledbed truck can go. I would like to have a sledbed but the veg tank and filter stick up too high in the bed of my truck so I just keep the topper on. I was thinking about getting a superlightweight 1 place to tow behind my impreza wagon rallymobile but I fear I'll fry the tranny too quickly.
mmmmmmm fried tranny's :fm:Crap
h o fuk akturnandburn have you had MOOSE BACON?
fukkkkkkk my friend hooked me up with some OMFG!!!!!!!!!
also saw a product called baconaise the other day in the mayo section!
l00n nice work on the 800! if it makes you feel any better i was stuck bad twice today, but FKNA , dood , it is deep ,no?
oh l00n u forgot the part about the brownies....and being fucked up like a wooden watch !
turkey day was fun
neos are GREAT, we used them up in the oil fields in >-40 Fahrenheit and they kept my uninsulated steel toed clad feet happy. The caveat with Neos is they run VERY small. i wore a 4X for a 15 boot. guys with size 9's were in a 2XQuote:
Originally Posted by PROVO
A little spammy but maybe someone is interested:
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hi guys i am trying to get into sledding and i have a chance to get a 03 Arctic Cat 570 mtn cat sled with 700 for about $2000 in trade and cash wondering if it is something that will be good for me for a first sled and to get into sledding/sled skiing with or any info at all that i can get on this machine thanks a lot
Hey Bill,Quote:
Originally Posted by billcallen
Is that a Mtn Cat with a 700 engine or a 570. If its a Mcat 700 thats not a bad deal, you probably want at least a 143" track to get you up the bigger mountains.
no sorry i just meant only 700 miles on it but i think its just the 570 engine in it not sure on the track length thanks
Edit: i think i read on a spec for that year it was 121 does that sound right? just seems quite short
I would say 144 is the minimum track i'd be happy with. Mine is a 159". 121 i absolutely would not buy. 136 i guess maybe if it's a smokin deal.
Depends on what you want to do. A 121 will do fine as long as you stay on the groomed trails, but i think it's silly to spend money on a sled that you can't take off the road. The incredible thing about sledding is you can go ANYWHERE.