Ukraine

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Originally Posted by rideit

Wow, if even 30 or 40 of those migs/etc could strafe the 17 mile Russian column by Thursday, that could be decisive in regards to that particular offensive. Wow.

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Those countries are putting their balls on the line. Being neighbors I guess they figure it’s worth the risk vs being next.


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Originally Posted by ex-powderbroker

russia’s surface to air capability covers half of ukraine. if they can shoot down planes so can the ruskies. not that they shouldn’t test it in some capacity though. they need to prevent the east and west from being split, because then it is just that much closer to becoming an all guérilla war.

there’s also the fact that the ports are getting shut, and they might have to reclaim territory at some point.

i read from a dubious source that russia offered them a withdrawal for recognition of crimea, the territories, and no nato and they refused.

i wonder if it was just crimea if they would have gone for it, or if not because russia is obviously an untrustworthy party.

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So what’s the alternative? Martyr your entire country? Sucks, but what is the alternative? Commit to defeating mother Russia?

I don’t know the answer.


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Originally Posted by ticketchecker

Saw a protest sign pic today - “if Russia stops fighting there is no war, if Ukraine stops fighting there is no Ukraine”


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You all are way behind the news cycle

It's gonna get real ugly real soon, the time to act is now. That convoy basically can't reach Kyiv or a shitload of people are going to die.

edit: I guess this has occurred to them. I hope they succeed.

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Originally Posted by frorider

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I guess i should change my username to “Lvivsky” but I’m not gonna that.

How many vehicles do you really have to destroy to completely clusterfuck a 17 mile long convoy?

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Tucker had some interesting things to say this evening

Unless he said that he was going home to put a gun in his mouth, probably not.

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Originally Posted by abraham

A note that the Molotov cocktail name was in response to another military action by Russians with a false pretext.

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This was interesting.

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Originally Posted by highangle

Enough to make a statue of Hero Zelensky so gigantic the shadow would fall on Moscow every evening.

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6 foot statue of the man with 600 feet of manhood.

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Originally Posted by The Reverend Floater

Can we send maybe just a handful of Warthogs and a single B2? Then just deny it, Trump style?

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I like the way you think and fuck Putin

Former World's Strongest Man and current UA politician Vasyl Virastyuk taking up arms. Probably a good guy to have on your side.

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Originally Posted by leroy jenkins

How many vehicles do you really have to destroy to completely clusterfuck a 17 mile long convoy?

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Maybe more than you'd think. There are probably lots of vehicles in that convoy specifically designed to clear wrecked vehicles from the roadway.

Ukrainian President signs Request for immediate admission into the European Union

Is that possible, what does that do besides putting Ukraine on the hook for all the military hardware coming into the country?

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Originally Posted by ötzi

Is the Ukrainian air force still a thing? I haven't heard a word about them since the "Ghost of Kyiv" business. Just wondering.

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I gotta think their air force is super vulnerable, to SAM attacks from sites in russia, from russian planes air to air, and worst of all, from russian planes while on the ground, including their refueling facilities and runways.

If they lose them, they're fucked. If they still have a few, even if they aren't in use, they are still a bit of a check against future russian complete air superiority.

Satellite images show the Russian military convoy is now 40+ miles long

CNN reporting on the U.S. intelligence assessment, "Administration officials warned lawmakers in classified briefings Monday that a second wave of Russian troops will likely consolidate the country's positions within Ukraine and by sheer numbers be able to overcome the Ukrainian resistance"

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Originally Posted by MTT

Tucker had some interesting things to say this evening

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If you calling him trying to take back his shameless pandering to Putin last week interesting? That dude is pure poison, he lies, takes shit out of context, and is “only asking questions” almost as much as Hannity.

I watch at least a part of those assholes every night just to see what kind of shit they’re peddling. They spout off bullshit to dimwits knowing no critical thinking will be involved in the eating of their propaganda.

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Originally Posted by frorider

I respect her background on Putin but she gets some things wrong or incomplete (perhaps due to interview editing?).

Her thesis that wartime leaders like Churchill become irrelevant after the war is overlooking examples like Eisenhower. On a related note, while Putin has used war as a ratings and power boost, she says nothing about how effectively Putin has used Christian nationalism in league with ROC to accomplish those goals. She posits that near constant war is his only method for power maintenance and consolidation.

And her comments about his willingness to use Nukes are absurd. Yes we know about his use of nasty poisons, but to use that as evidence he’d subject Russia to nuclear MAD is plain dumb. Putin’s use of poisonings is an example of the opposite. It’s about as ‘surgical’ a strike as you can imagine.

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This is helpful perspective and makes a lot of sense.
Gotta love TGR: you can get this kind of intelligent insight on the same thread that Benny is getting all weird about Polish Kielbasa’s and his dick size.

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Originally Posted by BobMc

If you calling him trying to take back his shameless pandering to Putin last week interesting? That dude is pure poison, he lies, takes shit out of context, and is “only asking questions” almost as much as Hannity.

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Well, Tucker had Benny eating out of his hands. The guy's smooth as a good pocket breakfast meat.

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Originally Posted by The AD

Maybe more than you'd think. There are probably lots of vehicles in that convoy specifically designed to clear wrecked vehicles from the roadway.

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True, and 17 miles is long enough you can't just destroy the front and rear ones, theres a bunch of turnoffs to alternate routes along 17 miles of any road I'm sure, but still, I gotta think 17 miles of trucks could be vastly slowed down with a few javelines.

Kinda wonder if they want to draw them into somewhere favorable.


Random thought, the Battle of San Jacinto, where the Mexican army was 'masacred' by the Texian army after the Alamo, despite the Texians having 930 men to the Mexicans 1300. Texians lost 11 and had 30 wounded. Mexicans lost 650 and 200 wounded. The texians, outnumbered, burned bridges trapping themselves on an island with the Mexicans. Its just a trip to me how human psychology works. I get the Texian motivation, but you'd think not caring about the war and wanting to go home wouldn't just completely destroy the Mexican ability to even defend themselves from attack. Complacency and underestimating their opponents resolve clearly played a part. It still just blows my mind 930 can 'massacre' 1300.

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Originally Posted by MultiVerse

Satellite images show the Russian military convoy is now 40+ miles long

CNN reporting on the U.S. intelligence assessment, "Administration officials warned lawmakers in classified briefings Monday that a second wave of Russian troops will likely consolidate the country's positions within Ukraine and by sheer numbers be able to overcome the Ukrainian resistance"

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And if it doesn't and all those mothers sons start dying, putins going to get dragged out of office.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJHeltDiUfs

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Originally Posted by MTT

Ukrainian President signs Request for immediate admission into the European Union

Is that possible, what does that do besides putting Ukraine on the hook for all the military hardware coming into the country?

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I'm not sure about the short term, but it would give them some hope of developing their ability to extract their natural gas reserves once war is done.

Hard to tell what the point of this war is, but destroying that abilty seems to be at least an objective for putin.

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Originally Posted by MultiVerse

Satellite images show the Russian military convoy is now 40+ miles long

CNN reporting on the U.S. intelligence assessment, "Administration officials warned lawmakers in classified briefings Monday that a second wave of Russian troops will likely consolidate the country's positions within Ukraine and by sheer numbers be able to overcome the Ukrainian resistance"

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I wonder how much that plays into the active narrative that NATO USA needs to declare Ukraine a no fly zone and start shooting down Russian aircraft?

I don't think there will ever be a no fly zone over Ukraine with the Russian army in the country and Putin in charge. Russian military doctrine allows for the use of tactical nukes if that were to happen and I don't think that's something we would risk for a non-NATO country.

A teeny bit of hope, these are en route right now.
But yeah, it looks grim.


28 MiG-29s from Poland
12 from Slovakia
16 from Bulgaria
14 Su-25s from Bulgaria
2,500 assault rifles
1,500 anti-tank weapons
70,000 ration packages
135,000 field rations
5,000 helmets
body armor
5,000 anti-tank weapons
100 Carl Gustaf anti-armor rocket launchers
2,000 munitions,
1,000 anti-tank weapons
500 Stinger missiles