4FRNT Renegade ~ Hand built in SLC.
Those bear rens ARE really pretty…..
I didn’t really dig the Lotus 120. I don’t get along well with pintails….the nose pulls you around but the tail doesn’t finish the job. Rens are more neutral overall and result in a more rewarding, dynamic experience. For me. That’s super subjective, I know, but that’s what I’ve got. Rens are slashy and intuitive and oh so good and the Lotus 120 weren’t really those things, at least not for me. They were like a work truck. Got the job done with no drama.
HALs Rens vs. new Rens: I’m still figuring it out. New Rens have much better suspension. They lose a little bit of that slashy but always gotta be on it feeling, but still feel slashy. In good snow (which I’ve not found much of, lately) they still disappear in all the good ways. I haven’t found that feeling of getting low in good or funky snow and feeling like I’m skiing inside a tennis ball with new Rens….yet, but again….haven’t found much good OR funky snow lately and I’m also in piss poor shape compared to years past. I can say that I had no problem skiing HALs Rens as a daily driver… even on hard snow they had something ineffable that was FUN and I’m not quite getting that same vibe from the new ones, jury is still very much out, though.
How’s that for a subjective, not-really-saying anything comparison?
4FRNT Renegade ~ Hand built in SLC.
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skinipenem
What's HALS? I'm plain f'ing dumb.
Mustonen your description actually comes across very well. What's a tennis ball and what does skiing inside it feel like?
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HALS is just the cool looking wood sidewall. I dunno what it stands for and didn’t know it was called that until I asked the same question upthread a few pages back.
I’d liken the tennis ball feeling to kind of bouncing around off of stuff. Centered and a part of the ski rather than using the ski as a tool? You don’t really arc turns on the Rens…. When you and they are in the zone you slide/roll/slash around. A part of that feeling is very much the reverse camber/matched side cut/stiff ski. You roll around so the ski meets whatever part of the hill you’re engaging with, but the ski itself doesn’t change that much in shape. Note that you also aren’t getting a ton of rebound out of it either, or at least that rebound you do get is different than loading up a traditionally cambered/shaped ski.
The tennis ball analogy is something somebody else used, maybe in this thread, though I think they meant something completely different.
Keep in mind that while I may not be a total beater, I’m beater-adjacent, but when I’m in my tennis ball I feel like a hero.
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4FRNT Renegade ~ Hand built in SLC.
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gaijin
A big question on my end is how your new Ren compares to a HALS Ren.
By the way, your binding choice on your new pretty, shiny, weak-ass looking Bear Ren makes me even angrier that it's not mine.
Also curious what boot you're using to drive/tour those? Looks like a rad daily driver for Japan's mid-season.
It’s been a long time since I skied the HALs Rens. My son still has our 2017s but his bsl is now bigger than mine. If ya need side-by-side rocker pics I can get some.
Ren binding choice.
I think you need the ability to walk in your Rens.
I considered CAST. Got sketched hearing some pillar issues (not being straight) with the CAST system. Duke PT 16s look burly. I’ll mostly be using these inbounds. And Duke PTs can quickly change between different soles.
Boots….Lupo Air 130 or Lupo HD 130 if I’m walking in the pins. Krypton 120 or 130 if skiing inbounds.
PS I’m tempted to post a pic a pic of my Rens and my new K108s for you gaijin.
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