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Originally Posted by Fishskisurf
The main lodge at Crystal will no longer have the cafeteria and seating starting this season. If you want to sit inside you can use the tent (Raven Hall). It seems like we are getting good value for our $1700 season passes this year. See copied announcement below.
CASCADE LODGE
New use of space Winter 22/23
REIMAGINE CRYSTAL
MOUNTAIN COMMONS
CASCADE LODGE
AERIAL ADVENTURE COURSE
This winter, Cascade Lodge will be transformed to accommodate every skier and snowboarder’s needs. Level one of the lodge will continue to house both the men’s and women’s restrooms, water refill stations, and information about upcoming events, promotions and more.
Level two of the Cascade Lodge will now be home to Crystal Mountain’s human resources and central staffing offices providing a break room for staff. Level two will have new seasonal lockers available for rent through guest services.
Level three, which once housed the Cascade Grill, will now be home to the Youth Adventure Club (formerly known as Kids Club) this season. Cascade Grill will relocate to a food container in discovery meadow with outdoor seating options and indoor seating available in Raven Hall.
Level four will welcome Brand X, now encompassing rentals, demos, the tune shop, and ski check so all your equipment needs are in one place. Brand x will be conveniently located next to the lift lines, making it easy to stop and grab your gear and get right back in line. New this season, the gear check will be available to store your skis, snowboards, bags, and more all winter. For your daily locker needs, there will be kiosks available to make renting a breeze.
The Rafter’s Smokehouse will remain on level five for one more winter season before the smoker moves into the Mountain Commons to open the new Smokehouse restaurant.
I thought I worked with some pretty stupid people, but whoever is doing all of the planning for this winter up at Crystal definitely takes the cake.
I'm sure families will be extremely excited to get all their food from shipping containers and being forced to eat in temporary tents, all for only $1,700.
It almost like Crystal management saw the screwed up season at Stevens last year and elected to try and outdo it in 22-23.
They've been grooming everyone for years. First it was the umbrella. Then summer glamping. Now lunchroom tents.
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It’s just an ever evolving comedy of errors in decision making.
Employee housing has been turned into what looks like another 300-500 spots, that at least seems to make sense
I get that they have to move some things around to build this new lodge… but this doesn’t make sense at all.
- Rent space in Enumclaw for HR and office staff (we know you have the money)
- Put employee break space in the tent
- Run rentals out of a conex
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The next choice that puzzles me is moving Rafters next year. What is going into that space, executive offices? I would think the restaurant space even with the new lodge would still be needed.
There is a mention of increase uphill capacity for Bullion basin. Are they actually adding a lift there?
BULLION BASIN & GOLD HILLS EXPANSION (2023/2024)
Increased uphill and downhill access added to Bullion Basin and Gold Hills.
What are you guys complaining about? The release clearly states that this is being done to "...accommodate every skier and snowboarder’s needs." Are you saying they're lying? :)
Weird. Crystal's customer-focused actions and policies over the past handful of years make this latest development hard to believe. So very, very hard to believe.
Hopefully charging up to $9,999 (thank god it’s not 10k, that’d be nuts) for a 20x10 ft piece of gravel to park an RV on will help Mega Corp have some cash flow to really focus on customer needs.
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I don't know what Crystal is referring to here. I haven't heard any plans to break ground on any new lift at Gold Hills, or adding the Bullion Basin lift. Maybe they just plan to add some extra chairs to the existing Gold Hills lift and cut a new run?Quote:
Originally Posted by RichV
I would think before Crystal ever builds the Bullion Basin lift, they would first need to construct the Kelly's Gap chair, the chair that connects B lot to the base area, and build the snow bridge/tunnel so that skiers can get from Bullion Basin to the B lot base. Here's the map of the plans:
Attachment 431105
https://www.fs.usda.gov/project/?pro...0&exp=overview
It certainly sounds like they're planning to both upgrade the Gold Hills chair and build a new one in Bullion Basin.
Forgive me if I’ve missed but what are the new employee housing arrangements if they fixed the existing for another parking lot?
I believe Crystal has been renting the Black Diamond Christian Camp near Ranger Creek air strip to house their employees:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishskisurf
https://blackdiamond.org/
Gold Hills only seems to be open on weekends and then not even every weekend. I have never seen a line there. So don't know why they would think that lift needs an upgrade.Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
Like I mentioned above, there is really no feasible way to connect a Bullion Basin lift to the rest of the mountain other than starting it from B lot. Then you have to connect that B lot base with the rest of the mountain, which will require a skier snow bridge over to the top of the road, and expanded snow making (since the B lot bottom would be even lower than the current base). We're talking multi-million dollar project. I can't imagine a Bullion Basin lift is part of their "Reimagine Crystal" announcement (which is the source of that Bullion Basin Gold Hills statement). Even though the Bullion Basin has been approved by the Forest Service in 2004, I assume there will at least be some kind of announcement by the Forest Service before the project moves forward, and I haven't seen that.
I know, it does sound a bit underwhelming to me, too, but just going on how the statement is worded. I suppose they could be looking for more blue terrain.
It's not really clear on the master plan map, but it seems like there should be some sort of crossover between Gold Hills and Bullion Basin and that would be the connection between BB and the rest of the mountain.
Ya, you would be able to ski from the top of the Bullion Basin lift to the base (and Gold Hills base). But I think the Bullion Basin bottom has to go in B lot. In theory, it could go where Upper C lot is. But that is a National Forest summer trailhead. I don't think Crystal can just take out Upper C lot, and the summer trailhead, without further Forest Service approval. The approved Master Plan shows the bottom in B lot, so I think Crystal is stuck with that. Upper C lot for the base wouldn't make sense, even if Crystal could stick it there, because it is slightly uphill from there to the base area.
I think the bullion basin snowshoe trails are a better use of that exceptionally marginal terrain.
I guess I could see it providing a dedicated family/learning area that is relatively isolated but offering more than discovery and quicksilver.
Bullion basin was a thing many years ago. That side never drew crowds and had a few fun runs but it takes direct sun in later season and the snow rots out quick. When it was lift-served, had to pull my brother out of a creek over there when he skied onto a snow bridge that collapsed. Lift improvements / ski runs could affect B.C. access via the cat track also. Inside the managed area puts it under the flashing light rules that presently don't apply. Since it's a poor choice for enhancing the skier experience which Alterra assuredly knows, what's the underlying motive? Crowd dispersal or acquiring acreage for marketing purposes/ enterprise value is all it's worth. I'm going with #2.
Their what?Quote:
Originally Posted by californiagrown
You heard the man. They are accommodating every skier and snowboarder’s needs!Quote:
Originally Posted by oftpiste
... and scenic gondola riders needs. Let us never forget the stormday scenic gondola riders! RIP views. RIP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northway
Brutal.
It's like the ski industry hates its own customers.
$4 -5k for an RV seasonal parking spot?! JFC that's insanity. And the worst part, the well-heeled in the greater Seattle metroplex will pay it so they can park their quarter-million dollar camper van and have maximum access to show how rad their life is on social media.