i think op is an wrong too but i manage to not sound like a dick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwacka
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i think op is an wrong too but i manage to not sound like a dick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwacka
A lot of whining and defensiveness for someone that says he doesn't let the blowback from his comments get to him.
Do you ever reread what you type before you hit post? I would advise you to do that if not. If you already do, well then can't help ya.
So. I’ve decided to move my 110 enforcers along. They’re 191’s skied about 20-25 days. I take care of my stuff and they look great. 2/1 bevel hand set. Detuned tip and tail to the absolute perfect amount.
Offering them here first rather than to the jong fest, m-series, swap shop sharks.
PM me if interested and include your email and I’ll send pics and an attractive price, I reserve the right to chose who I sell to. Prefer to sell flat. They have marker demos old school low stack on them and if you speak pretty to me I might sell them.
Out of recognition of Bandit Man’s unending patience in answering my questions (and others) on a range of skis I’ll be donating some of the proceeds to his favorite charity (PM me) or I’ll shoot it to Higher Ground. If you ever swing through Sun Valley let’s make some turns and tip a glass.
Cheers!
JFC wacka.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushwacka
Not sure how my skiiing experience, ability or background has any relevance to using a true bar to see if a ski is flat.
But you probably are smart enough to realize that and yet still decided to try and be internet tough guy again.
Keep digging dude.
$37 and a powder skirt up for grabs if you want to try and prove you're not such a big douche in real life.
Opinions are like asssholes - we all have one... I posted on ON3P thread and my travel ski was a 189 108 Wren and I felt was one of the best 1 ski quiver I ever owned... Now many on that thread said this same SKI was an ass kicker... I have 193 Supergoats and I like this ski but love 196 OG Blizzard Bodes... I now own 191 94 and 104 Frees and do not find them lacking at all... If you feel 104s are not chargers you must be a super badass...!Quote:
Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds!
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I really like the 104 Free. In the 191 length it is going to be more than enough ski for most people. When compared to the Volkl M102 or K108, it does have a speed limit and is not quite as damp or stable, but it really is an amazing all-around ski. However, I don’t think the average skier will ever find the 104 Frees limits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertow
As stated before, it is probably the best do-it-all ski on the market today. I think it is a better ski than the Enforcer 100.
So I skied the 191 enforcer 110 a few times and got left with a weird feeling of the ski. In 3d even just an inch, it’s super loose and skis awesome, any turn shape you want. But the second you hit chop, variable or edge-able snow the ski wants to pull hard across the fall line. I had to slow down my skiing a lot in chop compared to most other stuff I ski.
Just that 20m radius working against me?
Anyone else feel the same?
Agreed. I’m hitting Whistler tomorrow. Was 10-12cm new today. None expected tomorrow. Snow is decent I hear. I’m skiing with mortals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
So I’ll be on my E104s...M102s would work fine too...but they’re a bit more “work”.
E104s are just “easy”, yet they always get the job done.
And here’s the thing. I’m not the fastest but I can ski pretty fast. But I do have a speed limit. E104s work fine up to that limit. They’re damp enough and stable enough for me (and my tweaked MCL).
I’ve determined the only limit the M102s have is me. They’re a real bad influence.
Again it’s nice to have the choice..it’s why we build quivers.
It's just not stiff enough to ski variable snow/heavy chop at speed, IMO. My 191 Enforcer 110 is by "Dad Powder Ski"...I break it out when I ski with my blue groomers kids, when they want to hit the pow stashes. I don't think it is a powerful ski, but rather a well-mannered all around ski that is really solid in fresh snow.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_pretzel
That's why I keep saying I want the Enforcer 115 layup/thicker core in the Enforcer 110 mold. That ski would kill it in most conditions. The 110 is just a bit too soft/lacking from my experience.
Hmm, I’ve definitely skied softer skis that can rally in chop, however maybe the softer flex + the shorter radius is where the ski falls short? When it gets bumpy the ski flexes a lot really engaging the sidecut?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
It’s too bad because I really liked the feel of the skis.
Might be...it’s just that the 20-m sidecut on the 191 really isn’t that small/tight.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_pretzel
I keep thinking I should sell my 110’s and then I take them out on a day when it is soft and they are just so fun and easy. Loose tails make for great tree skiing, they are solid on groomers for the width, but I just have to throttle back a bit in chop and variable.
"191 94 and 104 Frees"Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertow
I lost the plot right here. Are you referring to Enforcers?
Bandit, you have cost me a lot of money... I pretty much follow your reviews and because of you own 192 Rustler 11s, 191 Enforcer 94s and 104 Frees and absolutely love all 3... I finally get to travel for a ski trip and am heading to Mt Bach for 9 days and in my bag will be the 104s and Rustler 11s... Before it would have been my Wren 108s and either my Supergoats or Blizzard Bodes - not now... I have in my possession the new 106 Cochise and some what regret ordering... You are killing me with the Katana reviews and must resist...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
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https://youtu.be/F-HLqiQw51c
Some GoPro enforcer 110 stoke from me. Includes aggressive pole planting.
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Sorry...not sorry? [emoji6]Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertow
My arthritic knee made me accept that I needed to start exploring skis for mere mortals. Glad your journey down the same path has yielded positive results. Those are all great skis and none of them are lacking in capability or backbone. The 191 104 Free is sooo good.
Will be curious to hear your thoughts on the new Cochise. Once the sales start, I could see me adding a pair of 185’s.
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The only problem with you sizing down is that you I have to buy my used skis from someone else. [emoji6] I'm hoping my knee can hold out a little longer. Vitamin I has been enough this year. I'm shocked there's been so little discussion on the new Cochise this year. That's another one on my list I want to check out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
Skied my Enforcer Pros/115 Frees yesterday for the first time in a long while. Definitely feel wider and stiffer than my 110’s. A bit slower to get up on edge and a little more effort to bend. Did well on the soft groomers and so much fun in the deep pow we had yesterday (12”+). Had an amazing run in the trees with them. I think the 110 is a better tree ski, but the added stiffness of the Pro/115 was just this side of manageable. I really love the tail rocker profile on this ski. So loose and slashy without being too soft.
I still stick by my desire for a Pro/115 build in the 110 mold. But that ski would then be the “narrower Rustler 11” everyone wishes for. The 115 is just a little too wide most days.
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I strongly agree (I'm talking about the old 100s, haven't skied the new one). It's been a while but I thought the shovel on the 100s didn't match the tail. The 104 Frees are dialed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
I think people who prefer a more traditional ski/mount are likely to get along better with the QST 106s. That is the case for me. I could be happy with either, but skiing them back to back a few times the QST's are just a better fit. They're easy but you can drive them. The 104 Frees are looser, but prefer a neutral stance.Quote:
It is probably the best do-it-all ski on the market today.
My experience is from the 104s, not the 110s, but I found I had to ski them more casually or from a neutral stance if I didn't want them to come around too quickly. The tail is loose.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_pretzel
I'm pretty adaptive to stance and ski a lot of "playful" skis with neutral stances, I really think it's just the sidecut/flex.Quote:
Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds!
I was going heavy on NSAIDS at the start of the season and ended up with some Stomach issues. I’ve had to cut way, way back and now I mostly ice the days after skiing.Quote:
Originally Posted by phatty
My bad knee is definitely a consideration for the skis I choose these days. I really need that damp suspension to last all day. Skis like the Katana and Cochise provide exactly what I need...and ski so well. Win-win! [emoji41]
How much did you detune? I was going to sell mine after about two days but hit the edge pretty hard to about 1” past the rocker line and they improved dramatically and were my go to ski.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_pretzel
Hit it hard until contact points with a hard blue gummy, guess I could have tried more. Good pointQuote:
Originally Posted by CaliBrit
Yeah I’d use an actually stone vs gummy. And go a little past contact point.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_pretzel
Aggressive detune similar to CaliBrit, FWIW.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaliBrit
Planning to shop for off season sales on the 104s, but would like some reassurance this is the right ski for me. If you were a lame dad who doesn't ski nearly as hard or as often as you used to, mainly ski east coast inbounds and trees (with the occasional weekend trip to Utah) would the Enforcer 104s be a good one-ski quiver choice?
My current setup are ancient Solomon teneighty guns, center mounted (recovered park skier) in DIRE need of replacement. I'd like to go with something a bit wider than these @98 underfoot and not center mounted but not totally traditional. I've been reading and comparing ski reviews, and I feel like the enforcer 104s in 179 would be a good fit. I'm 5'7", 170ish and demoed the QST106 in 181 last year for 3 days on a trip to Utah. I liked the skis quite a bit, but felt like I was over driving the tips after I'd gained some confidence on them and was charging harder. Could just be bad technique, but they were a ton of fun overall and I wanted to find something that was similarly playful, but more of a double tip as I still ride switch to the road once in awhile... I was attracted to the Enforcers for the positive reviews on cutting through crud, carving well on groomers, and still being a relatively forgiving ski in bumps and such.
I've also considered:
Line Sick Day 104
Fischer Ranger 102
I think you’ll love them. Don’t be afraid to look at the 100 too if you’re deal hunting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crock
Location: low elevation often manky Western Oregon low angle ski resorts
Already have: OG E98’s (the 2 layer titanium flat tail ugly lightning bolt topsheet ones) for junk snow or who knows conditions, Armada Tracer 118s for deep and storm days
Style: Directional but semi-neutral stance, not crushing the shins too much, breaking the tails loose drifting as much as possible, popping off small features as much as possible in soft snow, windshield wiper drifting through crust crap. I don’t think long effective edge / lack of tip&tail taper are my thing.
Want: Everyday ski for skiing as much off piste as possible, ranging from packed wet mank to chop to dry moguls to 6” fluff on crust/mank/old snow. Notice the theme about warm mank???
E110 or E104?
Or something else? I’m really thinking Praxis MVP 109 might fit the bill ...
My Mantra 102's have stolen my hard-snow heart, so I think I might be moving my 191 E104s on. I demoed the enforcers back to back with the M5 and liked the E104 better at the time. I've since moved to wider opener-er terrain, and got back in ski shape (I demoed like the first week of the season, a mistake in retrospect). In my mind the charm of the E104 is that you can ski it reasonably hard considering you can also ski it with basically zero effort when you want to. It's hard to imagine a better, more versatile compromise for a one ski quiver for someone who skis 10-20 days a year. As long as you value dampness over pop/energy.
Both the Enforcer 104 and 110 will do exactly that. When I read your requirements list, I immediately thought of the 110. Those are the conditions I really enjoy it in.Quote:
Originally Posted by SchralphMacchio
The 104 skis similarly but is a bit more precise. It is a better carver and seems to have a little more energy versus the 110. The 110 is more damp but so loose and so fun in soft snow and in PNW trees and mini-golf techy lines.
Neither are true chargers, though.
Selling a new pair of 19/20 110s in 185. $480. Amazing ski. Bought as a backup. I've never encountered a situation where they've felt terribly out of place.
Cool, thanks! At 135 lbs I don’t need a true charger. Will probably be driving with a K2 Mindbender 120 boot as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
Seems like if you first thought of the E110, and since I have the E98, the 110 is the way to go if I can find a good deal on the 177s.
Also looking at Woodsman 108 177s ...
Pegleg, 185 is just too long for me, unless the straight tape pull is actually like 181. 135 lbs is the key here ...
FWIW, my son was 135-140-lbs last year and skied the 177-cm 110. It worked really well for him in soft snow, especially the trees and tight quarters. He loved it there. His only complaint was the 16.5-m sidecut, which felt want to turn too tight on really firm groomers.Quote:
Originally Posted by SchralphMacchio
He wanted the benefits of the short length but with a bigger radius. He had to learn you don’t always get what you want. He has since grown to 165-170-lbs and is now on the 185 110’s.
I could see a shorter Woodsman 108 working out well, too.
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Thanks for that comment. Radius on the 177 Woods 108 is 21.6m so maybe that’s where I keep looking for now, but if a solid deal turns up on an Enforcer I might still bite.
I think my 178 E98 is 19.5m, so is my Armada Tracer 118.
Despite being 41, I’m still not getting any bigger (been the same weight for 20 years), and certainly aren’t getting any stronger ... probably should stay away from upsizing hah.
I've owned 104s and current own 93s.
I feel like the 93s stand out in their category more than the 104s stand out in their category. The 104s are really, REALLY good skis, but I have others in the 10xmm slot which I prefer. The 93s are just killers on low-tide days, and have become one of my favorite skis.
I'd love to ski the 110s, just for kicks.
Straight tape pull is 183.5 cm. I also ski them +2cm of the line and love them there. Much easier to throw sideways/slarve without loosing much stability. Or groomer performance if any. I’m 5’9” 150lb for reference.Quote:
Originally Posted by SchralphMacchio
Curious what other skis you have in the 10x slot? I have 110s and 94s, but am looking at others to add in the 102-105 range for some more variability in the quiver instead of another pair of Enforcers.Quote:
Originally Posted by N1CK.
Got to look at the Mantra 102.Quote:
Originally Posted by ABinThe603
Mini road trip last week to Tetons with M102 and E110. Covered. Also own the E93 which I'm on a bunch at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by ABinThe603
I have the 179cm Enforcer Free 104 and the 180cm Rustler 11 (112mm). I’m really really happy with both the E104 and the R11. Both the Enforcer 104 and R11 are dampish, stable enough while still being very playful and easy to ski with a centered upright stance. Both are perfect for where and how I ski at Whistler. I ski them a ton. But honestly I could own just one of those two? They are that similar in feel/use. I would probably own just an Enforcer 110 if the sizing was more in line (eg 181?) with what I like.Quote:
Originally Posted by ABinThe603
So I think an E104 and E110 will be too similar to each other.
I’m also not a fan of super flat tails. Or far back mounts. That being said I recently I got an M102....which has both of those. Mostly due to reading the threads on here. And wanting a challenge/change in the quiver. So I took a chance. And I liked it.
The M102 is a lot more ski than the Enforcer and R11. Therefore, I think the M102 “complements” the E104/110, as you need to ski it, which is good for you. I’ve hit speeds I haven’t hit in years.
The M102 makes you want to ski fast. Whereas, the Enforcer let’s you ski fast?
So build your quiver, get an M102, and try not to kill yourself. You will appreciate the Enforcers even more.