Uber gives free trips to the morgue. *limited locations only, coming soon to your town.
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Waymo, formerly the self-driving car project of Google, said that in tests on roads in California last year, its cars went an average of nearly 5,600 miles before the driver had to take control from the computer to steer out of trouble. As of March, Uber was struggling to meet its target of 13 miles per “intervention” in Arizona,
Ouch
Waymo/Google has been on the road for about a decade now; pretty much everyone who lives or works in the south SF peninsula has seen their Lexuses with the wind-up thing on the roof driving around at various points (I just read that they've switched to minivans). Their cars have a rep for being noticeably conservative and cautious, and they have an outstanding safety record, in an area with a high density of cars, peds, and bikes. Uber's running a very different kind of operation.
https://nyti.ms/2pGGMmS
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"Mr. Khosrowshahi even insists that Uber...could start using flying taxis in five to 10 years"
Hah! Wow. How high is this guy?
At some point they need to share the best of this technology for safety concerns. It's good to have competition to explore different approaches but in the end what best should be mandated for all to use.
Sure the best wins the financial gains and that the way it should be.
Uber should shut up for now because they fucked up imo
So Arizona's governor, "disturbed" by the video, has ordered Uber's self-driving cars off its roads. Which begs the question: How does that even work in a state where automated cars aren't regulated? Businesses are free from the burden of government regulation, except that the governor can go around issuing orders?!? Great ideology you've got going there, guys. If Bluto Kalanick was still in charge of that company, they'd be suing Arizona right now.
Gov of AZ has been pretty cozy with Uber... maybe too cozy.
Where's the outcry to repeal Newton's law of inertia? Same dumbass thinking that boarders who fly out of the woods have when they're hit by someone skiing the trail they didn't look up.
Thin the herd. There's too much weakness.
There has to be a money trail in Arizona. Has to be.
Knew what?
Why the fuck is everybody so obtuse around here? Are you all girls?
OK, let me say in general I don’t mind riding buses. I rode shuttle buses in college for several years with no problems, but I suppose you could say I was probably the dirty old man then bumping into the coeds.
I’ve ridden buses on trips to several cities without problems - Chicago, SF, Seattle, San Diego, Munich to name just a few. The buses in Telluride and Aspen are also pretty nice.
But, I wouldn’t recommend the bus on South Lamar in Austin. I rode that bus maybe 10 times to commute back and forth to ACL, and 8 times were fine. The other two, though...
One time a guy gets on the bus and sits near me. I’m facing forward and he’s on one of those sideways seats next to me, so I’m looking right at him. All he has on is a blue hospital gown, very loosely tied, so his junk is peeking out. It’s like he just got up and walked out of a hospital or doctors office while being treated without changing back into street clothes. He looked like he was in a daze, and he smelled like he just took a crap in his gown.
Another time, an old man who looked drunk started to make eyes at me. Then he came over and sat next to me and started rubbing his leg on mine. I quickly changed seats. Not sure how he got the impression that I’d be open to his advances, but maybe he was hitting on anything that moved.
Also one time I had barely missed the bus I intended to catch, and had to wait about 45 minutes for the next one to come along. So I’m sitting there at a pretty deserted bus stop biding my time when this bum comes over and starts chatting me up, on random subjects, and I’m sitting there with a pretty expensive camera around my neck wondering what happens next. Finally he asks if I could give him some money to buy a beer. I give him a buck and he disappears, thankfully.
Dude, you gotta cultivate the NY stone cold face.
Yeah, probably right. I’ve had some interesting experiences on the subways in NY, too.
I love riding the bus
and I am a girl too
When I was a teenager I used to ride the bus to learn the City. At 16 I get a car and it put an end to that.
We have a pretty good system but now it's getting too crowded for the odd times I go downtown to avoid a DUI
Will fully autonomous cars allow for higher levels of blood alcohol or THC ? I wonder
Apparently Uber disabled the factory installed emergency braking system in the Volvo because they thought it was engaging too often. They depended on the backup driver to hit the brakes in an emergency. So they had a self driving car but not a self stopping car. Makes sense.
http://digital.olivesoftware.com/Oli...0C08&mode=text
Uber still plans to keep testing the cars, just not in Arizona.
i think it high lights that self driving cars are further in the future than is portrayed in the media. Their performance in rain and snow is really bad
Well, that's surely the case for Uber and Tesla. Waymo is much more advanced. And apparently ready to go. They ordered 20,000 cars that will be autonomous.
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I wonder how many are killed each year in traditional Taxi's wit a driver?
That isn't how I'm reading it. Volvo's factory-installed emergency braking system wouldn't even have the facility to take input from Uber's software, and if it did, it wouldn't make sense for Uber to design its software to integrate with a factory-installed braking system that wasn't designed for autonomous driving.
No, my read is that Uber had its own emergency braking software module (which any autonomous driving system obviously ought to include), but they disabled that module "to reduce the potential for erratic vehicle behavior" (translation: it was responding to too many false positives, perhaps suddenly stopping for plastic bags and leaves).
In other words, Uber was testing a system that was missing a key component, which had been turned off because it (or the software calling it) was dangerously unreliable.
Another thing I notice from the report is that even though the system (correctly) called for emergency braking at t-minus-1.3-seconds (which was ignored because emergency braking was turned off), there was no tentative reaction function for slowing the car during the nearly five seconds in between the system detecting something ahead and deciding to call emergency braking. For a human driver (remember, the boulevard was illuminated by street lights), there would have been some kind of "WTF is that up ahead?" reaction, causing some moderate slowing before emergency braking might have become necessary. But there was no call to such a function during five of the six seconds when the ped was detected. Emergency braking was disabled, but a tentative braking system apparently wasn't even designed in.
As for Volvo's stock emergency braking, it makes sense for that to be disabled if they're testing an autonomous driving system that presumably includes emergency braking. Besides which, a stock system intended for background non-autonomous use would likely be too crude to definitively recognize relatively lightweight obstacles, and would be calibrated to only react if there was something big and solid in the way.
One of the big several reasons I quit working for Schneider National was that I sometimes had to drive tractors (Freightliner Cascadias) with automatic emergency braking and more than once they would dynamite the brakes for stuff like deer or a guardrail on an off ramp or a car on the shoulder. It was frightening and I fucking hated it.
experts say they're not coming any time soon--10 years or more.
http://digital.olivesoftware.com/Oli...FC68&mode=text
A couple of days ago a car a few ahead of me had a plastic bag blow into the front of it and it stopped so fast it was scary. It caused a 4 car pile up :eek: Since the road was blocked none of us could go anywhere so while standing there I heard the driver say they never saw what caused the car to stop itself but the cop still wrote him up for reckless driving and a few other things. I walked up to the front of the car and took the bag that was stuck to the bumper off after taking a few pictures. I emailed the pics to the driver so he had the evidence to give the court when he goes to argue the tickets.
More gloom and doom:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/17/b...mous-cars.html
Among other things--with current technology, to make the cars very safe they have to make them very cautious, so that they're braking too often.
Yeah I read that and they finally admitted what I've been saying every time this topic comes around, the hardware problem isn't that hard and can be dealt with effectively now. The software problem is nowhere close.
Like I’ve been saying, I can’t wait for these fucking self driving cars. They’re going to be fucking pussy mobile‘s. Every time I want to go anywhere all I Gotta do is juke left , or right. Those fuckers a be slamming on the brakes and pissing themselves get out of my way. I’ll be able to be fucking king of the hill.
Humanoids rule.......
for now.
Well they have 5 months left, that's only 200,000 a month.
Pump and dump.